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Microsoft Pulls Some Non-Security Updates For Microsoft Office 2010, 2013 and 2016 That It Released Earlier This Month (betanews.com)

Mark Wilson, writing for BetaNews: Having released a series of updates for Office 2010, 2013 and 2016 as part of this month's Patch Tuesday, Microsoft has now pulled two of them and advised sysadmins to uninstall the updates if they have already been installed. In both instances -- KB4461522 and KB2863821 -- Microsoft says that the problematic updates can lead to application crashes. While this is not as serious a problem as, say, data loss, it does little to quieten the fears that have been voiced about the quality control Microsoft has over its updates.

58 comments

  1. Kms bypass by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

    These updates didn't buy any chance mess with some of the kms activation cracks, did they? Hypothetically, of course! Just asking.

    Hypothetically 6 friends and family members all of a sudden, hypothetically may have contacted me.

    1. Re: Kms bypass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Those updates were made partially for the same reason everyone else made an update, which was a bug associated with SSL in the e-commerce space. Why havenâ(TM)t the other vendors recalled their patches? Does anyone know?

    2. Re:Kms bypass by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Were they Office related KMS issues? Or did MS just issue another Windows Defender definition update that once again reset the "ignored files" list.

      Honestly Windows tries to nuke KMS every month.

    3. Re:Kms bypass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LibreOffice. All of your lives will be a little better, unless they rely on programs that integrate into Office products.

    4. Re:Kms bypass by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Honestly Windows tries to nuke KMS every month.

      And fails. Every month...

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    5. Re:Kms bypass by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Hypothetically.... I've never seen office deactivate itself in 5 years. Suddenly 6 of then?

    6. Re:Kms bypass by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Could be either way. Point is that Defender updates have a long history of targetting KMS, maybe they just finally figured out how to get at the Office ones? Either way I imagine that if it was the updates to Office that broke KMS then MS probably wouldn't pull them for that reason, ... unless they also broke the legitimate activations.

  2. Reboot ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems about time for another reboot.

    1. Re:Reboot ahead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, surely the updates are impossible and intrusive to install during shutdown or restart, even by asking user for confirmation. It is much better to just give ultimatum as "Will you install updates now or later?". And later means at some random occasion during lunch hour and with 5min delay before a forced reboot. After few times of losing desktop session and even unsaved work, the user slash paying customer is trained to bend over and obey its master, the Microsoft.

  3. Is this a Win10 issue or Office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not clear from TFA if these Office crashes are related to Windows 10 or Office versions in general running under other Windows versions.

    1. Re: Is this a Win10 issue or Office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was wondering the same thing. I will ask around

  4. New patch made available. by xack · · Score: 4, Funny
    1. Re:New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong URL... https://getfedora.org/

    2. Re:New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I try to avoid IBM software, how about these.

    3. Re: New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they released two updates per year like everyone else and had a sunset schedule in place for all releases, again like everyone else, we would stop hearing these stories about how special red hat is and actually find a use for it

    4. Re: New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah... You should probably keep using trusted and stable Windows.

    5. Re:New patch made available. by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Funny

      That patch broke the ribbon. There's a weird menu system that millenials don't know how to use.

    6. Re:New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ribbon design was made by boomers too fucking stupid to to realize how bad an idea it is.

    7. Re:New patch made available. by pefisher · · Score: 1

      The Ribbon: We still hate it, after all these years.

    8. Re:New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clippy did it..

    9. Re:New patch made available. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Ribbon: We still hate it, after all these years.

      Hate is a strong word. But I still have to search through the tabs to find the function I am looking for and I still don't know why it has to change appearance depending on the width of the window. Somehow I think those two points are related.

  5. Re:Reformat behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Had to reformat, as per website instructions. Then installed service from said website, per its instructions, running as local system account. Now I am living la.vida.loca and loving every minute of it.

  6. Could they lead to telemetry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That would be nice, just dreaming.

    1. Re: Could they lead to telemetry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny. This probably would never have been brought if not for the problem with word.
      Here is the latest:
      Microsoft says there will be a new patch out at the end of the year.
      Java says there are no current known serious vulnerabilities. PHP, etc. say the same.
      Chrome says use of google docs may be related to the macro disablement (that baffles me - how are they even related?).
      To add to the confusion, apple says they have an annual release coming up and none of their OS patches should have negatively impacted any other services.
      I could accept that chrome bugs touch other things, but not word.
      This is why I left system administration. Too much time spent on things that should never have been problems.
      I use PHP and Jakarta right now for everything e-commerce but I would like to get to the bottom of this.

  7. Those updates also disabled macros in Word by dhuv · · Score: 3, Informative

    Macros in Office are a big security issue. Once of those updates (I believe it was KB4461522) disabled macros even if the code was signed by Microsoft and is valid. Unfortunately we use this functionality at the moment and had to ask users to remove that update on affected systems.

    1. Re: Those updates also disabled macros in Word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weird. I read a similar patch notes from Java and for PHP but there is nothing official from chrome or Microsoft about why their patches affect other features. Anyone have an idea?

    2. Re:Those updates also disabled macros in Word by dhuv · · Score: 1

      Actually I confused a couple of issues. KB4461522 actually stopped Office from working in Win XP. I know XP is not supported anymore but there are people using it.

  8. Microsoft still exists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unbelievable! You let them walk all over you then politely ask for more... Lemmings the lot of you.

    1. Re: Microsoft still exists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft, along with apple and the S3 team, seem to have the most verbose answers, so they are probably providing the most reliable notes.

  9. Minor correction by Zocalo · · Score: 1

    These two updates are not actually from the official "Patch Tuesday" release, but from a few days prior and are concerned with the introduction of a new "Era" (essentially an Emperor's reign) in Japan. They appear to be functional tweaks concerning how Japanese dates are displayed so, unusally for Microsoft, uninstalling them isn't going to leave your system vulnerable to any known security issues.

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    1. Re: Minor correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My PC users are set up to check automatically for updates and install when the updates arrive. Any reason not to just keep doing it that way? Seems to be working just fine

    2. Re: Minor correction by Zocalo · · Score: 2

      Depends on your network requirements and your appetite for risk vs. saving time. Most of my clients run engineering networks with strict change control processes so patches are tested first and manually pushed via WSUS only when they're confident they won't cause any issues. I suspect that very few of them will have even pushed out the November security patches yet, let alone a couple of feature updates to amend the date format display for a single country, since they tend to rely on Defence in Depth to provide additional layers of security. Of course, if you don't have WSUS, then you don't have many options since MS doesn't have a simple way to automatically defer installation for a few days after release in case they should release yet another bad patch, although i guess you could do something with scripting.

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    3. Re: Minor correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes sense. We try to handle updating different systems separately when possible (everyone tries to use iOS because their updates come out after they test everyone else updates). Even though our department knows exactly what will be released, our end users do not know and we get anxious calls. Maybe I will just tell them what you just said

  10. this is not the major story you want it to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This update makes some changes for the Japanese calendar in Office 2010 so that the new Japanese era name can be displayed correctly when a new era begins. Additional updates may be required for Office applications because of expected changes in the Japanese era. We will update this article as necessary.

    Office 2010 only

  11. Did you break my Project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder if this explains why my Project 2016 now crashes during Save As XML when it always worked previously.

  12. Where is the leadership? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have to wonder where is the leadership at Microsoft these days? Is Nadella hiding under his desk these days? Really got to start wondering if he can do the job?

  13. Re: Need a code of conduct to STOP /. BULLIES... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The bullying - numbskull - will continue - dumbass - until morale improves - stupid

  14. The s***show continues by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    As expected from Microsoft.

  15. IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gweihir KNOWS u IMPERSONATE me https://it.slashdot.org/commen... c6gunner proves it https://linux.slashdot.org/com... forgetting to SUBMIT BY AC & f'd up using his registered 'lusrname' instead (just because he tried to mock me both BEFORE & after I FAIRLY challenged him to show he's done better work - he had ZERO).

    & NO WAY I'd "cry" like you to "ne'er-do-wells" on /. (TROLL /.ers, not all) OR post on hosts offtopic.

    YOU HELPED ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... (& you quit trying to make me look bad trying to "tell lies" on hosts as "ME" IN YOUR IMPERSONATIONS of me e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & regarding Intel speculative execution attack? Hosts DO PREVENT THEM)

    APK

    P.S.=> I KNOW that 2nd to last link above's KILLING YOU that YOU ACTUALLY HELPED ME getting me to see if hosts stop more than portsmash (& Meltdown + Spectre too) & "lo & behold" - hosts WORK on 'em - U LOSE (& U STOPPED TRYING IT in your impersonations of me) .... apk

  16. getting scary by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1
    The update/roll back, Customer as quality control, and it's issues that Microsoft has been having lately would seem to indicate that Microsoft has completely lost control of their process. I wonder how long until an update brings on a real W10 apocalypse?

    Popcorn and Tequila time.

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    1. Re:getting scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "Courage".

    2. Re:getting scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The update/roll back, Customer as quality control, and it's issues that Microsoft has been having lately would seem to indicate that Microsoft has completely lost control of their proces

      Oh, I'm sure their process is just fine, it's just geared to lowering costs and pushing out features more than it is on testing and putting out software which isn't broken.

      See, they've just crowd sourced their QA to their users, who then quickly find all of the issues. The problem is they never asked their users if they were willing to be beta testers.

  17. MS QA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "..it does little to quieten the fears that have been voiced about the quality control Microsoft has over its updates."

    With Windows 10 YOU are the Quality Control department. What? Like you are actually going to leave Microsoft if they break your computer? Well you may but that's just because your a computer nerd and you will be marginalized for using weird things like Linus or penguin or whatever the hell that other OS is called.

    -M$

  18. Re: You just proved you're a SOYBoy (lol) then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just had a vision that one day all /. comments will be written by some group of idiots claiming to be APK.

    APK must be very powerful to get that far under their skin.

  19. Truth in advertising! by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    Non security updates pulled, because they weren't secure...?

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  20. Post you replied to's an impersonator &... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (you realize it's true): A man's strength's judged by his enemies. Mine = weak like ZIP https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & deluded https://news.slashdot.org/comm... (ZIP the BLOWHARD fool who can't backup his bs & BLUNDERED HUGELY vs. me which you can verify yourself in those 2 links no less IS DELUDED).

    * Nope - I'm not that 'strong' when my enemies are SO WEAK & defeat themselves for me, lol...

    As I said to him? I'll let others read that & decide for themselves - they have LONG ago https://science.slashdot.org/c... vs. him having ZERO to show in code others like (yet he says he's a coder? He can't even READ (see topmost links as proof)).

    APK

    P.S.=> They're butthurt little pricks that "tried to take me on" & lost badly - ESPECIALLY ZIP above & c6gunner's another fairly recent example too CAUGHT IMPERSONATING ME https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as he mocked me BEFORE & AFTER that "starting it" w/ me & I FAIRLY challenged him to show he did better - twisting /.ers words of praise as he did IMPERSONATING me was "best he got" (weak)... apk

  21. wouldn't be a problem.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you hadn't forced the fucking things on users in the first place. these 'bad', non-essential, non-security updates could be sitting harmlessly in the list of 'optional' but never-gonna-be-installed updates.

  22. I see you're outta "downmodpoints" lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gweihir KNOWS u IMPERSONATE me https://it.slashdot.org/commen... c6gunner proves it https://linux.slashdot.org/com... forgetting to SUBMIT BY AC & f'd up using his registered 'lusrname' instead (just because he tried to mock me both BEFORE & after I FAIRLY challenged him to show he's done better work - he had ZERO).

    & NO WAY I'd "cry" like you to "ne'er-do-wells" on /. (TROLL /.ers, not all) OR post on hosts offtopic.

    YOU HELPED ME https://science.slashdot.org/c... (& you quit trying to make me look bad trying to "tell lies" on hosts as "ME" IN YOUR IMPERSONATIONS of me e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & regarding Intel speculative execution attack? Hosts DO PREVENT THEM)

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: Told you I'd RUN YOU DRY of 'em - it's the ONLY time you keep posting replies - so obvious & guess what? As usual?? I make good on my word & WIN vs. you weezils, lol... apk

    1. Re:I see you're outta "downmodpoints" lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you seem to suck a lot of fat cock, is this because you like the taste of semen? does semen taste different when being dispensed into your mouth from say a negro to a china man? do you have a preference apk? or is it more or less the "any cock will do" mentality of your faggot ass? i sued to stick up for you, now i love it when zip or whoever it is owns you here on an hourly basis. why not admit defeat? why not just keep sucking fat cocks and let the news for nerds alone for the actual nerds? maybe if you sucked a few more cocks today, you might be here less and get picked on less. but nobody has ever accused you of being intelligent apk. and nobody would use the program a big fat cocksucker, with the need of peck and calf implants, programmed whilst accepting sperm donations in his mouth and ass. suckafatassdickyoufatassfucker.

  23. CPU usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kinda wishing this is related to the fact that over the past few weeks, I've noticed OneNote 2016 chewing up 100% of a CPU (Task Manager showing 25% allocated to onenote.exe on my quad-core NUC) whereas that's never been a problem before.

    It's easy to notice as the extra CPU usage kicks off the fan on my otherwise silent NUC. Closing OneNote still leaves it running, so I have to kill it with Task Manager. Invariably, a few minutes after doing that, the fan starts to slow down until I can't hear it anymore.

  24. geez, if it won't work, it's secure, right? by swschrad · · Score: 1

    kwitcherbitchin, a dead app is a secure app. all hail Microsoft ;)

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  25. Re: You just proved you're a SOYBoy (lol) then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    somehow I think that would be worse than Creimer.

  26. Microsoft looking for ways to be more evil? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The background: A close friend of Microsoft managers, Satan, said that Microsoft was not being EVIL enough.

    (Apologies to those who think that is religiously inappropriate.)