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Retaliatory Cyber Attacks Are Only Way To Stop China, Says Former FBI Director (afr.com)

Targeted cyber attacks and a strong deterrence capability are the most effective way of preventing China and other countries continuing to steal Australian commercial secrets, according to a former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. From a report: Louis Freeh, who ran the FBI for almost eight years until 2001, said the threat of criminal charges or jail time would do little to prevent state-sponsored hackers from continuing to steal valuable intellectual property. "It's like trying to serve a subpoena on [Osama] Bin Laden -- it's not very effective," Mr Freeh said on the sidelines of a speech in Sydney on Monday night. His comments come as the federal government considers how best to respond to a surge in cyber attacks directed by China's peak security agency over the past year. An investigation by The Australian Financial Review and Nine News confirmed China's Ministry of State Security (MSS), was responsible for the recent wave of attacks on Australian companies. These formed part of what is known in cyber circles as "Operation Cloud Hopper", which was detected by Australia and its partners in the Five Eyes intelligence sharing alliance.

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  1. View on China Needs to Change by sycodon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    China is not really our friend in any sense.

    They steal intellectual property

    They use state subsidies and subpar working conditions to undercut our products

    Their, "students" are usually tools of the Government.

    While it is doubtful the US and China will ever engage in some kind of ground war, it is probably inevitable that some kind of air/sea conflict occurs. Given the tremendous economic entanglements, it will be a very bizarre conflict.

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    1. Re:View on China Needs to Change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "to undercut our products"

      have you been paying attention to how globalisation works?

      it wasn't China's fault that America outsourced their entire manufacturing base to them.

      it was the fault of greedy corporate CEO's who wanted to maximize profit for shareholder gains (loss of American jobs be damned), plus the mindless consumerist working folk who valued getting a good deal above all else (loss of American jobs be damned).

      so yes, it was all your own fault.

  2. Better Idea by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Instead of starting some kind of cyber war, why not have our guys act as white hats and target Anerican firms and government organizations. Find breaches and alert the concerned parties so they can get filled in.

    It gives our guys practical experience and helps protect American citizens and businesses. It even affords a good job opportunity for the kind of mischievous minds that might otherwise cause some of that trouble.

  3. Attack what exactly? Defense is what we need! by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What do you want to attack? Want to steal back the trade secrets they got from us? How do you steal from someone who has nothing that you could possibly want? What kind of deterrent is it when you throw a nuke into a mostly void desert? It costs you a nuke and doesn't bother your enemy at all.

    Instead get your defense up to speed! The itsec situation in most companies is atrocious. And I'm not talking about irrelevant mom'n'pop shops, we're talking large and very juicy targets for international criminal actors. If anything, the FBI should start treating sloppy IT security as what it is: A criminal offense.

    But no, wait, we can't do that! Then our corporations would have to do something about their IT security! That could cut into their bottom line! No, let's instead wage a silly "cyber" war we can't win on taxpayer money. One silly, useless and unwinnable war that we get to foot the bill for more or less, who cares?

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