Hawaii's Mars Simulations Are Canceled (theatlantic.com)

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Hawaii's Mars Simulations Are Canceled (theatlantic.com)

Posted by msmash on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @06:08AM from the closer-look dept.

The dome where crew members practiced red-planet missions will now be converted to a simulated moon base. Excerpt from a report: For the last five years, a small Mars colony thrived in Hawaii, many miles away from civilization. The Hawaii Space Exploration Analog and Simulation, or HI-SEAS, was carried out in a small white dome nestled along the slope of a massive volcano called Mauna Loa. The habitat usually housed six people at a time, for as long as eight months. They prepared freeze-dried meals, took 30-second showers to conserve water, and wore space suits every time they left the dome. To replicate the communication gap between Earth and Mars, they waited 20 minutes for their emails to reach their family members, and another 20 to hear back. Sometimes, as they drifted off to sleep, with nothing but silence in their ears, they really believed they were on Mars.

In February of this year, something went wrong. The latest and sixth mission was just four days in when one of the crew members was carried out on a stretcher and taken to a hospital, an Atlantic investigation revealed in June. There had been a power outage in the habitat, and some troubleshooting ended with one of the residents sustaining an electric shock. The rest of the crew was evacuated, too. There was some discussion of returning -- the injured person was treated and released in the same day -- but another crew member felt the conditions weren't safe enough and decided to withdraw. The Mars simulation couldn't continue with a crew as small as three, and the entire program was put on hold. [...]

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What is not cancelled is my HOSTing by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:11 · Score: -1

Of dicks in my butt... GAYpk
Outdated by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:13 · Score: 0

Heard this story when it happened, whatâ(TM)s new now? Ancient story.
Are they going for true sexual realism? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:13 · Score: -1

You know the guys would be banging the one female astronaut. If they aren't, they stop wasting our taxpayer dollars.
1. Re:Are they going for true sexual realism? by DickBreath · 2018-11-20 07:50 · Score: 0
  
  This is why not to include female astronauts on such a mission.
  
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2. Re:Are they going for true sexual realism? by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-21 02:16 · Score: 0
  
  That just turns your astronauts gay. And if you send them alone, they have an unusual fixation on balls. "WILSON!"
Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:14 · Score: 2, Interesting

If you want something close to a Mars simulation, go to the Arctic.
Hawaii is too warm.
1. Re:Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:37 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  It's too uncomfortable. People only stay there months at a time. There's no groceries, communications are awful. It's totally unlike the wonderful journey to Mars where people are going to live under great beautiful domes and robots will mine food and oxygen until the planet has been fully terraformed.
2. Re:Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:52 · Score: 0
  
  If you want something close to a Mars simulation, go to the Arctic.
  Hawaii is too warm.
  FFS, they want volunteers to live there.
  Which one's gonna get a better response?
  
  "Come spend your free time in our Mars simulator in Hawaii!"
  vs
  
  "Come spend your free time in our Mars simulator in Antarctica! In the winter!"
3. Re:Arctic. by Thud457 · 2018-11-20 07:03 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  At least this incident didn't involve Paulie Shore & Stephen Baldwin.
  
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4. Re:Arctic. by ChromeAeonuim · 2018-11-20 07:12 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  It's not so much the warmth as it is the rocky terrain. At high elevations Mauna Loa is rocky, barren, and sort of Mars-like, and it can get chilly up there (although nothing ever approaching Martian cold obviously).
  
  I think the biggest thing is probably that you're still close enough to the medical facilities in Hilo if something goes wrong. This was largely a psych study, and there's no way you're getting an IRB to approve a something where people might actually die. If something goes wrong in Hawai'i, you'll be fine, but if something goes wrong in the Arctic, maybe not.
5. Re:Arctic. by helpfulcorn · 2018-11-20 07:27 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know, I think we may be better off if they *were* actually sent to Mars
6. Re: Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:36 · Score: 0
  
  Most of the western US (Great Basin) is both barren and rocky, and below freezing during winter. Granted, youâ(TM)d have to ignore the occasional plant.
  Every picture of Mars Iâ(TM)ve seen looks like it does about 50 miles west of Salt Lake City.
  Funny how Mars looks like every place in the world modern humans have no interest in visiting, much less âoecolonizingâ.
7. Re:Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 08:49 · Score: 0
  
  The arctic is covered in snow half the time, and the other half it's raining. And the pattern of sunlight is extremely seasonal. This makes it less than great for a Mars simulation. The dry, high-altitude desert on top of Hawaiian volcanoes (but below the snow line) is both visually and physically very similar to the terrain on Mars year-round. The temperature difference is not terribly significant since they wore spacesuits while outside anyway.
8. Re:Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 09:08 · Score: 0
  
  they did cause trouble in that bubble.
9. Re:Arctic. by arglebargle_xiv · 2018-11-20 17:58 · Score: 2
  
  It was actually a very effective simulation of what would happen: At the first sign of trouble, the whole thing fell apart. Conclusion: We've got a long way to go before we can have people living on Mars.
10. Re: Arctic. by TimMD909 · 2018-11-20 22:29 · Score: 1
  
  Mars is actually way more dangerous than you think...
11. Re: Arctic. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-21 07:55 · Score: 0
  
  Funny how Mars looks like every place in the world modern humans have no interest in visiting, much less âoecolonizingâ.
  Are you sure? Take a look at the outskirts of Phoenix Arizona some time and bear in mind that Pheonix keeps growing.
they really believed they were on Mars. by xxxJonBoyxxx · 2018-11-20 06:15 · Score: 1

>> they really believed they were on Mars.

So...a loony bin financed some random rich dude? Was there any actual science?

>> they waited 20 minutes for their emails to reach their family members, and another 20 to hear back

If you think that's a long delay, it's a good thing you're not someone who tries to text me - especially about work.
1. Re:they really believed they were on Mars. by Bobrick · 2018-11-20 06:17 · Score: 1
  
  If it's work related, I'm currently simulating life on a deep-space probe and it seems we lost all power systems.
2. Re:they really believed they were on Mars. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:19 · Score: 0
  
  Exactly the right kind of people to send to Mars ASAP.
3. Re:they really believed they were on Mars. by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:30 · Score: 0
  
  Pakalolo on Mars, brah.
4. Re:they really believed they were on Mars. by Aighearach · 2018-11-20 08:16 · Score: 1
  
  So...a loony bin
  It is called a dude ranch. And if you have to ask, you're too poor to understand.
Anybody remember Capricorn 1 by rossdee · 2018-11-20 06:21 · Score: 2

Sam Waterston was one of the astronauts
Hal Holbrook was the bad guy in charge of NASA
1. Re:Anybody remember Capricorn 1 by moehoward · 2018-11-20 06:30 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Hal Holbrook was not the REAL bad guy... OJ in the sleep chamber with the kitchen knife!
  
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2. Re:Anybody remember Capricorn 1 by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2018-11-20 06:55 · Score: 2
  
  OJ wasn't a great actor, by any stretch of the imagination. But when I watch a movie he was in nowadays, I see things a little differently in hindsight, for whatever reason.
  Like in Naked Gun - they're doing a riff on the train station scene from The Untouchables. OJ saves the baby... and then spikes it like a football.
  
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3. Re: Anybody remember Capricorn 1 by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:48 · Score: 0
  
  Are you saying Oj spiked babies at train stations for fun?
  Because that's what I got out of your post. ;)
4. Re: Anybody remember Capricorn 1 by Aighearach · 2018-11-20 08:20 · Score: 1
  
  [Allegedly.]
Missed opportunity by Nethemas+the+Great · 2018-11-20 06:25 · Score: 3, Insightful

If you set up a hab on Mars you surely aren't able to just go home because of an electrical burn, nor malfunctioning equipment. You have to tough it out at the very least until a favorable transfer window, and presumably in most cases for the duration of the mission. Tell them folks to go take their 30-second shower and get back to work. Use the opportunity to learn how to deal with things going to sh*t. I can all but guarantee they will on Mars.

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1. Re: Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:34 · Score: 0
  
  Ie, mars colonists will all die.
2. Re:Missed opportunity by sunking2 · 2018-11-20 06:35 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  Maybe she was over reacting, maybe not, and while it didn't get to this point nobody is going to be impressed when they see, 'died of electrocution while pretending to live on Mars' on your headstone.
  If you're going to take any of this seriously then that should include the people running it taking it seriously, which she didn't seem was happening when they were forced to break the chain and call 911 themselves and couldn't get a hold of the on duty doctor.
3. Re:Missed opportunity by Kulahan · 2018-11-20 06:40 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  This was nothing more than a study of the mental/emotional effects of being on Mars, as well as a study of how some of the mechanical and procedural systems might work on Mars. They got plenty of data on that.
  For a first run, this was about as good as one could hope, but with systems that haven't yet been refined for the unique challenges presented by living on Mars, there's no good reason to let people suffer and potentially die with such an early iteration.
4. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:47 · Score: 0
  
  Since this was a test conducted on Earth, in Hawaii -- is there a legal framework allowing observers with the ability to assist to decline to do so for increased realism?
5. Re:Missed opportunity by Zero__Kelvin · 2018-11-20 06:50 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Yeah ... You're a genius. Also if someone crashes a flight simulator then we should light them on fire. I mean what's the point of a simulation if it doesn't have all the real world consequences!
  
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6. Re:Missed opportunity by hey! · 2018-11-20 06:57 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  You could even say this was realistic -- more realistic than anyone signed on for.
  If you read first hand accounts of voyages from the Age of Sail, one of the things that's striking is how much long distance travel depended on human life being cheap. In Richard Henry Dana's Two Years Before the Mast, he recounts a journey in which he departed Boston on August 14 and dropped anchor in Santa Barbara on January 19, five months later. Because it's a sailing ship, the sailors have to climb the ice-covered rigging in a storm to tie and untie knots. Sailors are swept of the deck walking from the fo'c'sle to the galley for a meal, and in a gale at night there's nothing that can be done about it. Injury and death at rates that would unacceptable to modern sensibilities were literally just the price of doing business.
  The practical implication for a Mars mission, which due both to costs and launch windows would have to survive for many months, is that the crew roster is going to have to be heavy on medical expertise to meet modern expectations of safety. If you're a youngster with ambitions of being on the first Mars mission, get an undergraduate degree in engineering or Earth science and then an MD.
  
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7. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:02 · Score: 0
  
  Mod up, truly insightful.
8. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:05 · Score: 1
  
  ^This. Yes, Mars requires risk and some people may die. Taking chances while you're still on earth is just macho B.S. Work safe everybody.
9. Re:Missed opportunity by Mal-2 · 2018-11-20 07:11 · Score: 1
  
  tl;dr: The first trip to Mars will be all, or almost all, doctors with hobbies.
  
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10. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:13 · Score: -1
  
  >This was nothing more than a study of the mental/emotional effects of being on Mars, as well as a study of how some of the mechanical and procedural systems might work on Mars. They got plenty of data on that.
  Plenty of TAINTED data on that.
  This data is about as accurate a picture of living on mars as the office jobs at BP are an accurate picture of what the life of a Roughneck on an Oil Rig is like.
  You can't figure out the mental or emotional effects of anything if you tell the person "It's okay, if anything goes wrong, we'll rescue you".
11. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:24 · Score: 1
  
  Wish I had a mod point for you. The point is that they WEREN'T on Mars, and are collecting data on what can go wrong, and they got it. If an emergency makes your Mars LARP mortally dangerous, then roleplaying yourself to death or permanent injury is asinine. Value of human life aside, the team already clearly accomplished your goal.
12. Re: Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:50 · Score: 0
  
  This. It's why some armies use live ammunition in test drills.
13. Re:Missed opportunity by Aighearach · 2018-11-20 08:34 · Score: 2
  
  Well, or the other lesson from the Age of Sail; conscript criminals.
14. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 08:49 · Score: 0
  
  There is a pretty good datum point we learned: Mars ain't for pussies. Another is that we are way too pussy for Mars.
15. Re: Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 10:12 · Score: 1
  
  Welp, I'm convinced. Time to skip flight simulators and just throw pilots into multi-billion-dollar flying machines, because without truly endangering their lives it won't be ~accurate~.
16. Re:Missed opportunity by hey! · 2018-11-20 10:41 · Score: 1
  
  Or political dissidents. China could do this with it's "social credit score". Take someone whose life is literally considered worthless to society and give them a chance to get out of the red. As it stands it's kind of a Catch-22: you are so socially disabled by a low social credit score you can't rehabilitate yourself.
  
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17. Re:Missed opportunity by Tablizer · 2018-11-20 11:26 · Score: 2
  
  Yes, we do miss Opportunity.
  
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18. Re:Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 11:43 · Score: 1
  
  Agreed. We learn a lot from these episodes. Even if they have to cut things short unexpectedly.
  Why did a crew member get shocked? Design flaw? Protocol issue? Other..
  What 2nd crew member becoming ill related to that event? Circumstantial timing? Habitat issue identified?
  All things being equal, this is proper approach forward. I just hope they're back to it soon, with more simulations.
19. Re:Missed opportunity by Aighearach · 2018-11-20 16:20 · Score: 1
  
  No, currently they're just doing 1 year bans on premium modes of travel.
  They've adopted wording that makes it sound like you won't be able to rehabilitate yourself. But they might already have a plan for where those people are going to disappear to.
  Consider this: The population of China is so large, and the government's power so opaque, they don't even need to enact a policy to come up with enough people to man a space colonization project. They can just assign somebody to choose people, and be done with that stage. They could select tens of thousands of people that way, it would be as hard as "click click click submit."
20. Re: Missed opportunity by Kulahan · 2018-11-22 05:34 · Score: 1
  
  If this were even remotely true, then VR horror games wouldnâ(TM)t be nearly as terrifying as they are. Turns out when youâ(TM)re all wrapped up in something, itâ(TM)s easy to get your mind in a place where it genuinely believes your experience is the true reality.
Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:25 · Score: -1

In your IMPERSONATIONS of me (like u do now) saying what you thought "makes me look bad" e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (like now)? You did me a favor & got me to look @ these closely:
1st - Hosts stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...
2nd hosts MAY prevent the OTHER forms of Intel CPU weakness per ACADEMIC RESEARCH I read:
SPECTRE "As an attempted mitigation for our JavaScript-based attack" https://spectreattack.com/spec...
MELTDOWN "We presented Meltdown, a novel software-based attack" https://meltdownattack.com/mel...
So like portsmash?
Academics NEEDED LOCAL CODE (like portsmash hosts can prevent) so hosts ALSO work vs. Spectre/Meltdown!
APK
P.S.=> 3rd strike "yer out" - U FAIL PORTFILTERING TESTS https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (IF hosts could DO it I'd implement it in my work & I STOP THAT ERROR) ... apk
1. Re: Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:39 · Score: 1
  
  What happened to only posting about hosts when it's on-topic? This story is about Mars simulations being cancelled. It has nothing to do with DNS or hosts. Go away.
2. Re: Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 08:10 · Score: 0
  
  Man who wants to post here with APK hanging over your head?
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APK Hosts File Engine 3.0 for Linux/BSD... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:37 · Score: -1

See subject: APK Hosts File Engine 3.0++ 64-bit for Linux/BSD h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p
Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!
Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing u hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploit!
* ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Linux/BSD & supports port filters!
APK
P.S.=> Protects vs. all speculative execution exploits + scripts/trackers (faster vs. NoScript @ kernelmode level)/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk
You can't make this up. by CaptainDork · 2018-11-20 06:46 · Score: 0

"My buddy got zapped and he's OK THIS time, but this isn't safe so I'm going back to Earth."
"Oh. My Uber app says 40 minutes. Tea anyone?"

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Cancel the UBI simulations too by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:55 · Score: -1

The Left just tweaks the goal posts everytime for something that's never gonna work.
1. Re:Cancel the UBI simulations too by DickBreath · 2018-11-20 07:55 · Score: 0
  
  How can you say that when we haven't even tried Universal Basic Income yet.
  
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Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 06:56 · Score: -1

See subject & here https://science.slashdot.org/c... I only defend myself w/ facts that piss the impersonator off (he tried to say "hosts cure all speculative execution attacks" thinking it'd make me "look bad" in past impersonations like https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... which wasn't I posting that)
SO I THANKED HIM for HELPING ME & that he got ME to look into it & "LO & BEHOLD" hosts DO prevent what uses SPECULATIVE EXECUTION ATTACKS PROBLEMS in Intel/AMD CPU's AGAINST YOU with solid proof vs. PortSmash/MeltDown/Spectre https://science.slashdot.org/c... )
* It's only RIGHT to THANK HIM for HELPING ME (which BURNS HIM UP TO NO END, lol).
APK
P.S.=> See subject: He dragged me into it (on hosts, ordinarily I don't post on hosts off topic - only when they protect you OR speed you up ON TOPIC)
&
THUS, I have to defend myself against their bitchboy girly "lies/rumors" tactics - verifiable facts do that - they're the 1 thing that blows trolls away... apk
1. Re: Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:02 · Score: 0
  
  it is a verifiable fact that you are insane!
2. Re: Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:06 · Score: 0
  
  How exactly did he force you to reply to his off-topic post? Did he hold a gun to your head or threaten your family if you didn't do so? Or are you just such a mental midget and so emotionally unstable that you're incapable of ignoring such posts? You're in your mid-50s, so I'd like to think you've matured to the point that you don't have to answer every single criticism and provocation of you. Perhaps I'm expecting far too much of you, though.
3. Re:Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:42 · Score: 0
  
  You "have to" reply to them?
  Then they own and control you. Period.
4. Re: Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 08:31 · Score: 0
  
  Since you conveniently ignored this the first time, I'll post it again for you.
  How exactly did he force you to reply to his off-topic post? Did he hold a gun to your head or threaten your family if you didn't do so? Or are you just such a mental midget and so emotionally unstable that you're incapable of ignoring such posts? You're in your mid-50s, so I'd like to think you've matured to the point that you don't have to answer every single criticism and provocation of you. Perhaps I'm expecting far too much of you, though.
Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:00 · Score: -1

In your IMPERSONATIONS of me (like u do now) saying what you thought "makes me look bad" e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (like now)? You did me a favor & got me to look @ these closely:
1st - Hosts stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...
2nd hosts MAY prevent the OTHER forms of Intel CPU weakness per ACADEMIC RESEARCH I read:
SPECTRE "As an attempted mitigation for our JavaScript-based attack" https://spectreattack.com/spec...
MELTDOWN "We presented Meltdown, a novel software-based attack" https://meltdownattack.com/mel...
So like portsmash?
Academics NEEDED LOCAL CODE (like portsmash hosts can prevent) so hosts ALSO work vs. Spectre/Meltdown!
APK
P.S.=> 3rd strike "yer out" - U FAIL PORTFILTERING TESTS https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (IF hosts could DO it I'd implement it in my work & I STOP THAT ERROR) ... apk
Genius! by Donwulff · 2018-11-20 07:13 · Score: 1

Mars is dangerous, so let's switch it to Moon instead. I'm sure that will fix faulty electrical connections and poor chain of command...
My name is gayPK and I'm here to say by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:14 · Score: 0

See subject!

How exactly did he force you to reply to his off-topic post? Did he hold a gun to your head or threaten your family if you didn't do so?
Nobody claimed that. Take your strawman and walk the fuck away.

Or are you just such a mental midget and so emotionally unstable that you're incapable of ignoring such posts?
The irony burns deep with you.
gayPK
1. Re:My name is gayPK and I'm here to say by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 09:09 · Score: 0
  
  Except *you* are the irony. APK is a 50 something loony. You are his dopey, repetitive no-life pet.
  You look stupid as fuck, and now, doubly ironic.
Hopefully sanity has returned by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:16 · Score: 0

This result was much better than the headline, "All perished on Mars due to an electrical short". The fact is we are decades, maybe centuries before we are ready to tackle anything as daring as Mars with humans.
Zealot Express by Tablizer · 2018-11-20 07:25 · Score: 1

So...a loony bin financed [by] some random rich dude?
I suspect Mars will be first colonized by cultists/zealots of some kind, similar to how Utah was colonized by Mormons, who didn't get along with their neighbors when they first tried to settle further east. (Both sides point fingers, I won't pick sides here.)
Cultists will fund themselves and accept the risk. "Normal" people would typically not be so motivated.

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1. Re: Zealot Express by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:50 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe, but note that Mormons threw in the towel in their western migration when the terrain started to look pretty much like Mars.
2. Re: Zealot Express by Aighearach · 2018-11-20 08:18 · Score: 1
  
  They seem to have instead settled successfully, not given up. Sorry Ivan, you're gonna need to look that idiom up again!
3. Re: Zealot Express by Tablizer · 2018-11-20 11:23 · Score: 1
  
  "It's dry! It's rocky! It's red! It's deserted! We love it!"
  
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Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:39 · Score: -1

See subject & here https://science.slashdot.org/c... I only defend myself w/ facts that piss the impersonator off (he tried to say "hosts cure all speculative execution attacks" thinking it'd make me "look bad" in past impersonations like https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... which wasn't I posting that)
SO I THANKED HIM for HELPING ME & that he got ME to look into it & "LO & BEHOLD" hosts DO prevent what uses SPECULATIVE EXECUTION ATTACKS PROBLEMS in Intel/AMD CPU's AGAINST YOU with solid proof vs. PortSmash/MeltDown/Spectre https://science.slashdot.org/c... )
* It's only RIGHT to THANK HIM for HELPING ME (which BURNS HIM UP TO NO END, lol).
APK
P.S.=> See subject: He dragged me into it (on hosts, ordinarily I don't post on hosts off topic - only when they protect you OR speed you up ON TOPIC)
&
THUS, I have to defend myself against their bitchboy girly "lies/rumors" tactics - verifiable facts do that - they're the 1 thing that blows trolls away... apk
Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 07:44 · Score: -1

In your IMPERSONATIONS of me (like u do now) saying what you thought "makes me look bad" e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (like now)? You did me a favor & got me to look @ these closely:
1st - Hosts stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...
2nd hosts MAY prevent the OTHER forms of Intel CPU weakness per ACADEMIC RESEARCH I read:
SPECTRE "As an attempted mitigation for our JavaScript-based attack" https://spectreattack.com/spec...
MELTDOWN "We presented Meltdown, a novel software-based attack" https://meltdownattack.com/mel...
So like portsmash?
Academics NEEDED LOCAL CODE (like portsmash hosts can prevent) so hosts ALSO work vs. Spectre/Meltdown!
APK
P.S.=> 3rd strike "yer out" - U FAIL PORTFILTERING TESTS https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (IF hosts could DO it I'd implement it in my work & I STOP THAT ERROR) ... apk
Rules of Planet Colonization by TechyImmigrant · 2018-11-20 07:53 · Score: 1

1) Bring an electrician.
2) Bring a plumber
3) Bring a doctor
4) Bring some guys in red tops, they're the sacrificial ones.

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I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
1. Re:Rules of Planet Colonization by Ogive17 · 2018-11-20 08:24 · Score: 1
  
  Would be easier to just bring one redneck.
  
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  "Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
2. Re:Rules of Planet Colonization by Zero__Kelvin · 2018-11-20 09:49 · Score: 1
  
  No, no. It's a lethario, a logician, and a doctor plus some red shirts, you fool!
  
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  Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
3. Re:Rules of Planet Colonization by GuB-42 · 2018-11-21 03:36 · Score: 1
  
  What?
  The presence of a logician makes it sound like a riddle, knights and knaves style. That's unless they walk into a bar, that would be joke.
4. Re:Rules of Planet Colonization by Zero__Kelvin · 2018-11-21 03:47 · Score: 1
  
  Whooooosh
  
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  Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Re:Mod Parent Down by UperPoti · 2018-11-20 08:15 · Score: 0

An MD?! Why does the crew need to have a history of sucking cock to go to Mars?
Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 09:39 · Score: -1

See subject & here https://science.slashdot.org/c... I only defend myself w/ facts that piss the impersonator off (he tried to say "hosts cure all speculative execution attacks" thinking it'd make me "look bad" in past impersonations like https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... which wasn't I posting that)
SO I THANKED HIM for HELPING ME & that he got ME to look into it & "LO & BEHOLD" hosts DO prevent what uses SPECULATIVE EXECUTION ATTACKS PROBLEMS in Intel/AMD CPU's AGAINST YOU with solid proof vs. PortSmash/MeltDown/Spectre https://science.slashdot.org/c... )
* It's only RIGHT to THANK HIM for HELPING ME (which BURNS HIM UP TO NO END, lol).
APK
P.S.=> See subject: He dragged me into it (on hosts, ordinarily I don't post on hosts off topic - only when they protect you OR speed you up ON TOPIC)
&
THUS, I have to defend myself against their bitchboy girly "lies/rumors" tactics - verifiable facts do that - they're the 1 thing that blows trolls away... apk
Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 09:55 · Score: -1

In your IMPERSONATIONS of me (like u do now) saying what you thought "makes me look bad" e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (like now)? You did me a favor & got me to look @ these closely:
1st - Hosts stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...
2nd hosts MAY prevent the OTHER forms of Intel CPU weakness per ACADEMIC RESEARCH I read:
SPECTRE "As an attempted mitigation for our JavaScript-based attack" https://spectreattack.com/spec...
MELTDOWN "We presented Meltdown, a novel software-based attack" https://meltdownattack.com/mel...
So like portsmash?
Academics NEEDED LOCAL CODE (like portsmash hosts can prevent) so hosts ALSO work vs. Spectre/Meltdown!
APK
P.S.=> 3rd strike "yer out" - U FAIL PORTFILTERING TESTS https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (IF hosts could DO it I'd implement it in my work & I STOP THAT ERROR) ... apk
Tell that to GAYpk impersonator of me troll by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 10:21 · Score: 0

See subject & here https://science.slashdot.org/c... I only defend myself w/ facts that piss the impersonator off (he tried to say "hosts cure all speculative execution attacks" thinking it'd make me "look bad" in past impersonations like https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... which wasn't I posting that)
SO I THANKED HIM for HELPING ME & that he got ME to look into it & "LO & BEHOLD" hosts DO prevent what uses SPECULATIVE EXECUTION ATTACKS PROBLEMS in Intel/AMD CPU's AGAINST YOU with solid proof vs. PortSmash/MeltDown/Spectre https://science.slashdot.org/c... )
* It's only RIGHT to THANK HIM for HELPING ME (which BURNS HIM UP TO NO END, lol).
APK
P.S.=> See subject: He dragged me into it (on hosts, ordinarily I don't post on hosts off topic - only when they protect you OR speed you up ON TOPIC)
&
THUS, I have to defend myself against their bitchboy girly "lies/rumors" tactics - verifiable facts do that - they're the 1 thing that blows trolls away... apk
Result: Humans too dainty for Mars by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-20 11:07 · Score: 0

Clearly a forecast of likely human behavior just a few days into a Mars mission.
1. Clumsy human puts finger someplace it doesn't belong and gets hurt.
2. Human over-reacts and seeks expert medical treatment at a local hospital.
3. Humans start to panic when they realize there are no local hospitals on Mars.
4. Feeling unsafe, a few mission critical personnel panic and demand return to Earth.
5. Stupid humans void written agreements and panic further when they realize return is not possible.
6. Mission is compromised. Everyone dies.
Sad. by NicknameUnavailable · 2018-11-20 13:01 · Score: 1

They "lost contact" with the "Mars rover" because they were too cheap to build a new set on which to shoot the new fake "Moon base."
Waste of time by 110010001000 · 2018-11-20 14:30 · Score: 1

Nothing about that project was even remotely like what it would be on Mars. But I am sure a bunch of people got free Hawaiian vacations out of it.
Thanks in a way & why, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-21 02:52 · Score: 0

In your IMPERSONATIONS of me (like u do now) saying what you thought "makes me look bad" e.g. https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (like now)? You did me a favor & got me to look @ these closely:
1st - Hosts stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...
2nd hosts MAY prevent the OTHER forms of Intel CPU weakness per ACADEMIC RESEARCH I read:
SPECTRE "As an attempted mitigation for our JavaScript-based attack" https://spectreattack.com/spec...
MELTDOWN "We presented Meltdown, a novel software-based attack" https://meltdownattack.com/mel...
So like portsmash?
Academics NEEDED LOCAL CODE (like portsmash hosts can prevent) so hosts ALSO work vs. Spectre/Meltdown!
APK
P.S.=> 3rd strike "yer out" - U FAIL PORTFILTERING TESTS https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (IF hosts could DO it I'd implement it in my work & I STOP THAT ERROR) ... apk
I am APK the LORD of HOSTS by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-21 06:04 · Score: -1

I am APK the great "LORD of HOSTS", a.k.a. AlecStaar from ArsTechnica or Alexander Peter Kowalski.

See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux h t t p : / / I . a m . a . f u c k i n g / a s s h o l e . r e t a r d . z i p (remove spaces between characters & download).

I am the godlike creator of various GUI front-ends for other people's configuration files.

I think only one person responds to me as I shitpost and that I dusted them on another site, but in reality I am widely hated but just can't admit it to myself.

When people state the truth about me I get really mad and accuse them of projecting which is something I do all the time.

Don't call me out on anything as I will state that you are a webmaster and that I cut off your revenue stream.

You must be conspiring with the Jews and Soros if you disagree with me.

Mistaking mockery and parody for impersonation is how I think people flatter me because I can't possibly understand that they detest me.

See me lash out at one person for 2 weeks straight and claim everyone who mocks my retarded ass is actually them.

Bask in my debilitating mental illness

I just don't understand why every site I post on everyone makes fun of me, it can't be because I am a shit stick but instead because they are all Ne'er-do-well SOYboy Jealous JOWIEs.

Witness my descent into madness

APK
I am APK the LORD of HOSTS by Anonymous Coward · 2018-11-21 07:12 · Score: -1

I am APK the great "LORD of HOSTS", a.k.a. AlecStaar from ArsTechnica or Alexander Peter Kowalski.

See subject & APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux h t t p : / / I . a m . a . f u c k i n g / a s s h o l e . r e t a r d . z i p (remove spaces between characters & download).

I am the godlike creator of various GUI front-ends for other people's configuration files.

Calling people ne'er-do-wells or Jealous JOWIEs is how I think I win every argument

Don't call me out on anything unless you are willing to prove you too can write some strings to a file programmatically

You must be conspiring with the Jews and Soros if you disagree with me.

Mistaking mockery and parody for impersonation is how I think people flatter me because I can't possibly understand that they detest me.

Bask in my debilitating mental illness

Watch me spew some word salad because I can't string 2 words together in a coherent manner.

I just don't understand why every site I post on everyone makes fun of me, it can't be because I am a shit stick but instead because they are all Ne'er-do-well SOYboy Jealous JOWIEs.

Witness my descent into madness

APK