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Democrats Intend To Probe Ivanka Trump's Use of Personal Email In Next Congress (go.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from ABC News: Amid reports that first daughter and White House senior advisor Ivanka Trump exchanged hundreds of official government business emails using a personal email account, top Democrats on Capitol Hill "want to know if Ivanka complied with the law" and in the next Congress plan to continue their investigation of the Presidential Records Act and Federal Records Act. Rep. Elijah Cummings, the ranking Democrat who's in line to become the next chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee next year, promises any potential investigation into Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump's emails won't be like the "spectacle" Republicans led in the Clinton email probe.

The Oversight committee has jurisdiction over records and transparency laws, and Cummings helped write an update to the Presidential and Federal Records Acts that was signed into law by President Barack Obama in 2014. That measure mandates that every federal employee, including the President, forward any message about official business sent using a private account to the employee's official email account within 20 days.
"We launched a bipartisan investigation last year into White House officials' use of private email accounts for official business, but the White House never gave us the information we requested," Cummings, D-Md., noted. "We need those documents to ensure that Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and other officials are complying with federal records laws and there is a complete record of the activities of this Administration. My goal is to prevent this from happening again -- not to turn this into a spectacle the way Republicans went after Hillary Clinton. My main priority as Chairman will be to focus on the issues that impact Americans in their everyday lives."

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  1. Re:Fair is fair by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By that do you mean that it would be perfectly fair for Ivanka to argue "what, at this point, does it matter?" Or maybe that it would be fair of the FBI to recommend against charges (despite admitting that a crime was committed) like they did with Hillary?

    That would be fair.

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  2. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Good to know that Democrats now care about this issue. Too bad there's poor equivalency between the President's daughter using personal email and the Secretary of State running a server out of her basement with the obvious intent to keep email off the record (as evidenced by the Secretary destroying said emails).

  3. Re:Fair is fair by nwaack · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yep. She should take one for the team and say that she'll go to jail as long as Hilary goes first.

  4. ORANGE MAN BAD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is it at least 1/3rd of the stories on this site are basically just ORANGE MAN BAD. It's fucking exhausting.

    1. Re:ORANGE MAN BAD by Locke2005 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So your solution is "Stop reminding me that the orange man is bad!" rather than "Can't the orange man STOP being bad?"

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    2. Re:ORANGE MAN BAD by shilly · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because the orange man keeps on doing so much bad stuff. The floods of bad stuff are so gigantic that Slashdot barely covers any of it, and yet it still dominates the feed.

    3. Re: ORANGE MAN BAD by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you believe that? Objectively why?

      Well, let's start out with the most recent: Just a few hours ago, Donald Trump voiced his full & unwavering support for a Saudi leader who had a legal United States resident murdered, cut into pieces and his bones dissolved in acid. And this is a day after the story broke that his administration tried to help the Saudi leader cover up the murder and gave him advice on how to deflect the blame onto someone else. I'm pretty sure that on the morality scale, that falls somewhere South of "good"

      We can work backwards from there, but it might take a while because it's a very long list.

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    4. Re: ORANGE MAN BAD by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ex-Saudi, you mean.

      No True Saudi.

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  5. Re:Fair is fair by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Agreed - the only legitimate way to reconcile this is for both parties to admit to manipulating the system for their own gain, and to the detriment of the American People.

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  6. Was anything classified? by Sniper98G · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everyone keeps comparing this to what Hillary did. Not sure why.

    She was using a non-government account for government business. Hillary set us her own email sever in an unoccupied house and transferred classified information on to it.

    These things are not comparable.

    1. Re:Was anything classified? by nwaack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Everyone keeps comparing this to what Hillary did. Not sure why.

      Because ORANGE MAN BADDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111. I had to scroll through about 10 of these posts from some of my ultra-liberal friends on social media. They were just frothing-at-the-mouth livid about it. I would bet that not a single one them read anything more than the headline.

  7. Re:Fair is fair by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think either is a big deal, but as for the FBI each situation may be different so they should investigate both. They didn't find an issue with Clinton's use, but that doesn't mean the Ivanka scenario is the same.

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  8. Re:Before everyone goes crazy again... by DaHat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Usually, any criminal statutes require knowledge and intent of the crime being committed.

    Usually... yes, however the statutes Hillary violated has no mens rea requirement: https://www.law.cornell.edu/us...

    So nice of you to try to move the goal posts.

    What's next? Screams of "but they weren't classified at the time"?

  9. Release her pop's tax returns first by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and go after him for violations of the emoluments clause. Then we can worry about little things like this. I don't want political theater designed to keep Clinton Democrats busy, I want the rule of law restored.

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    1. Re:Release her pop's tax returns first by sexconker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The President has no obligation to release their tax returns.

      There are several clauses relating to emoluments. Regardless, Trump is in violation of none of them. Unless you can show he's receiving a title or favor from a foreign state, there's nothing there. Having foreign-based income doesn't count, by the way. Further, even if a sitting President is found to be in violation, Congress will just grant an exception.

      Try thinking. It might hurt at first, but you'll get the hang of it eventually.

    2. Re:Release her pop's tax returns first by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are several clauses relating to emoluments.

      There are three. Two of them apply to the president, one barring him from receiving foreign emoluments, one barring him from receiving anything other than his salary from the federal government or the states. Regardless, Trump is in violation of none of them.

      Federal District Judge Peter Messitte thinks there might be.

      Further, even if a sitting President is found to be in violation, Congress will just grant an exception.

      That seems much less likely than it did 15 days ago.

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  10. Re:Fair is fair by nwaack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The legal system doesn't work like that.

    No shit, Sherlock.

    The prove of your guilt is not contingent upon the prove or lack of such of somebody else's guilt.

    Technically you're right, but in the real world there's this thing called precedent, and the precedent has already been set during Hilary's investigation.

    Are you being willfully ignorant because ORANGE MAN BAD or are you just trying to be a jerk?

  11. Re:Trump plot: Force Democrats to reveal true selv by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe two, maybe three. One is at a runoff. But the Democrats won the majority of seats up for grabs this year.

    They were expected to win more than they did.

    But it doesn't seem to matter. They already put whomever on the court.

    No, the Republicans put carefully considered and middle of the road SC candidates forward - because they thought it mattered and were expecting rational debate. Now they know none of that is true so expect the next candidate to really be a far right option, thanks to what the Democrats did to the very middle of the road candidates the Republicans offered. That is why what the Democrats did was tactically insane.

    You also don't seem to understand that the whole House stands for election

    I don't think you understand what *I* am saying relies on exactly that point. After two years of utter Democratic lunacy on open display what do you think will happen to the whole House? It will be savage, absolutely savage for the Democrats next election if they do even just the things they are promising to do.

    You mean, aside from pass laws. Yeah, they can fuck up the judiciary, but other than that they're pretty unable to effect change.

    Ha ha ha you think law is the only way to effect change. HA HAH AHAH HA HAAH PHOHAH AHAH HA H AHHA AH AH AHAHA HAHA HAH AH AH AH A AH AHHAHA HA HAH.

    Trump just isn't a stunning genius. His skill is media manipulation and flooding the zone

    As they say, in the land of the blind... and Trump is in the land of politicians.

    But Trump doesn't have to be a genius for any of what I say to come to pass. The Democrats just have to be complete idiots, which they have managed to show they can in fact hold to for years in a row now, with only acceleration along that vector evident. They appear to have zero sense of what effective long term tactics would be.

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  12. Re:Fair is fair by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As long as the FBI follows the same procedure as with Hillary:
    1. An exoneration letter is drafted in advance.
    2. Immunity is given to top Trump aides (and they're allowed to sit in on the interview).
    3. The interview isn't recorded.
    4. The lead official doesn't attend.
    5. The #2 official's family has received large donations from Trump's political friends.
    6. Prior to the interview, the lead official meets privately on plane tarmac with Trump's wife (to discuss grandchildren).
    7. Main interviewer has expressed disdain for Trump's opponents, such as discussing an "insurance plan" with higher-ups to undermine them. If the same terms aren't offered...Was Clinton's interview process unfair?
    8. As long as they believe Ivanka didn't intend any harm, she's let off the hook for any violations.
    9. If Ivanka becomes a target, it should be referred to as a "matter" not an investigation.
    10. Trump aides should be permitted to destroy subpoenaed or relevant public records and wipe relevant servers with a cloth or something.
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