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Elon Musk Renames Big Falcon Rocket To 'Starship' (theverge.com)

On Twitter, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said that the transportation portion of the company's Big Falcon Spaceship (BFS), will now be called Starship, while the booster portion will be called Super Heavy. The Verge reports: Plans for the 387-foot Big Falcon Rocket were officially revealed back in September. Eventually, the company hopes that it will replace the company's existing Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon rockets. The craft is currently being developed at the Port of Los Angeles, at an expected cost of $5 billion and will be capable of taking up to 100 tons of cargo or 100 passengers as far as Mars.

SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell said the company hopes to start doing uncrewed launch tests of the new rocket in late 2019. If all goes well, Musk believes that this could be followed by an initial uncrewed flight to Mars in 2022 with a crewed flight taking place as early as 2024. A mission to fly around the moon with a private passenger on board is planned for 2023. However, given that the Falcon Heavy took nearly twice as long to complete as expected, and that only five percent of SpaceX's resources are currently spent on the Starship, it's best to view these plans as an aspiration.

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  1. Did Musk really call it "big falcon"? by quenda · · Score: 4, Informative

    Musk just called it the "BFR" in a reference to the BFG weapon in the Doom games, many years ago.
    Only recently did Gwynne Shotwell start calling it the Big "Falcon" Rocket, because ... trying to sound dull and respectable.

    1. Re:Did Musk really call it "big falcon"? by muffen · · Score: 2

      Musk has called it Big Falcon rocket on multiple occasions, but you are right, he did reference BFG in doom when initially naming it BFR.

      I kind of liked BFR, which they had stuck with it, but oh well, the name need to be commercially viable for massmarket I guess

  2. Re:Big F by quenda · · Score: 3

    It was not a cuss name exactly. It was merely an initialism than *hinted* at a cuss name. That's the joke.

    Like DVD, KFC or BP, the term BFR doesn't formally stand for anything. Not at least until Miss Prim and Proper started calling it the Big Falcon Rocket. Hard to believe she is an engineer and not an accountant.

  3. So, should the company building the rocket ... by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... now be known as the Starship Enterprise?

    1. Re:So, should the company building the rocket ... by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      It's either that or Jefferson Starship.

      Hard to tell.

    2. Re:So, should the company building the rocket ... by Rei · · Score: 2

      Now the stage is set for the Alan Parsons Project.

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  4. Re:Big F by enriquevagu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Like DVD, KFC or BP, the term BFR doesn't formally stand for anything.

    That's funny. I was going to correct you with the meaning of those acronyms we all know, and when looking for sources I found that you're actually right. Thanks for the info.


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    • DVD was initially supposed to be "Didital Video Disc", and later renamed "Digital Versatile Disc", and eventually nobody agreed on it and it was officially renamed to simply "DVD" (three letters), with many other unofficial meanings.
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    • KFC were the initials of Kentucky Fried Chicken until 1991. From the previous link: Dieting trends had made “fried” a dirty cuss, and the plan was to banish it from view. Voila: KFC.
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    • BP used to be The British Petroleum Company plc, but after many acquisitions it simply became BP plc in 2001.
  5. Re:Big F by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's him! The person who checks their facts before posting! Get him off the internet!!! :-)

  6. Annoying by joe_frisch · · Score: 2

    Much as I like spaceX, I hate when companies take well established names for cool things and use them for less cool products.

    A "starship" is sell understood to be a craft that travels between stars, not something that can launch a payload to another planet.

    Similarly "jump drives" "US robotics" , "hover boards", and the ford "fusion" all are in that category.

    The new rock is a heavy-lift rocket. Call it what it is or by some generic name "Neptune", Odin or something. Its cool enough as it is without exaggerating .

  7. Not expensive enough by petes_PoV · · Score: 2

    The craft is currently being developed at the Port of Los Angeles, at an expected cost of $5 billion

    Compared to NASA's version the Space Launch System that is reported as costing $35billion.

    Doesn't SpaceX have any feelings for subcontractors? How are they supposed to make a living when a new, non-governmental, outfit starts making competing rockets that are just as good, reusable and 7 times cheaper to develop and up to 10 times cheaper to launch?

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    1. Re:Not expensive enough by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 3, Informative

      The engineering community is full of whispers and rumors about how low the bar for safety and rigor is at Musk's companies. Everything they do seems to be hacked together on Elon's whims and never really proven.

      Riiight. You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. SpaceX can't hide their failures and their successes are also a matter of public record, and there are vastly more successes than failures.

      Corners were cut so hard that SpaceX launched their 18th rocket this year to complete mission success, their 63rd launch attempt overall, reusing a first stage for the second time, and recovered that first stage a second time. They've launched more rockets this year than their competitors launch in three years, for 1/5th as much money, while recovering first stages and reusing them, which their competitors have never done in the history of rocketry.

      Oh noes. Muh corners.

  8. Starship ? by rossdee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dud he add a warp drive or hyperdrive or some other FTL method?

    Its not a starship until it can get to another star system

  9. I was hoping for "Rocinante" by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    When you call something a 'starship' it should actually be, you know, a starship.