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Ajit Pai Isn't Saying Whether ISPs Deliver the Broadband Speeds You Pay For (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report from Ars Technica, written by Jon Brodkin: Nearly two years have passed since the Federal Communications Commission reported on whether broadband customers are getting the Internet speeds they pay for. In 2011, the Obama-era FCC began measuring broadband speeds in nearly 7,000 consumer homes as part of the then-new Measuring Broadband America program. Each year from 2011 to 2016, the FCC released an annual report comparing the actual speeds customers received to the advertised speeds customers were promised by Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Verizon, AT&T, and other large ISPs. But the FCC hasn't released any new Measuring Broadband America reports since Republican Ajit Pai became the commission chairman in January 2017. Pai's first year as chair was the first time the FCC failed to issue a new Measuring Broadband America report since the program started -- though the FCC could release a new report before his second year as chair is complete.

For more than three months, Ars has been trying to find out whether the FCC is still analyzing Measuring Broadband America data and whether the FCC plans to release any more measurement reports. SamKnows, the measurement company used by the FCC for this program, told Ars that Measuring Broadband America is still active and that a new report is forthcoming, hopefully next month. But whether the report is released is up to the FCC, and Chairman Pai's public relations office has ignored our questions about the program. Because of Pai's office's silence, we filed a Freedom of Information Act (FoIA) request on August 13 for internal emails about the Measuring Broadband America program and for broadband speed measurement data since January 2017. By law, the FCC and other federal agencies have 20 business days to respond to public records requests.
The FCC has denied Ars' request for "expedited processing," which "was warranted because the broadband measuring data is out of data, depriving American consumers of crucial information when they purchase broadband access," writes Brodkin. The FCC said, "we are not persuaded that the records you request are so urgent that our normal process will not provide them in a timely manner."

53 comments

  1. Why would you expect the FCC to? by jd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're happy with the under the table funding from the ISPs, no sense in stirring up trouble.

    Besides, we all know that we're getting between a third to a tenth of what we pay for. Only municipal Internet does better in America, which is why the private companies keep trying to ban it.

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    1. Re:Why would you expect the FCC to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well yeah... He was hired as a mouthpiece. He's doing his job!

      And here we are, just lollygaggin' along, voting for the same old shit every two years...

    2. Re:Why would you expect the FCC to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I pay for 55mbps. Just checked fast.com (netflix) - 55. Checked ookla - 60 - 70 mbps depending on server. Not all of us get a raw deal. But my acre has one acre lots, and I may share my cable pedestal with 1-2 other customers. So long as my cable provider has enough bandwidth in the city I'm good. I guess Tucson Comcast has enough.

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  3. Because TRUMP motherfuckers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I am like Bono - NUMBER 2!

  4. Fucking Indians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I don't know why America has allowed the Indians to take over all of their tech. But they sure as hell gave it all away. You guys must LOVE awful products and service.

    Google
    Microsoft
    FCC

    LOL!

    1. Re:Fucking Indians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I don't know why America has allowed the Indians to take over all of their tech. But they sure as hell gave it all away. You guys must LOVE awful products and service.

      Google
      Microsoft
      FCC

      LOL!

      Don't you know? It's not okay to have a White nation that celebrates Western culture. This is our new vibrant diversity! Only White places need diversity you know. No college or country is "too Black" or "too Hindu". There can only be "too White".

      Among all the advocates of "diversity" not a single one can tell me what measurable benefit it is. Only that we must have it. It is an article of faith. Meanwhile I can easily produce evidence that diversity and multiculturalism is nothing but a liability.

      The difference between Slashtards and (say) Christian Fundamentalists is that Slashtards think their articles of faith are somehow special. At least the Fundamentalists are aware that what they believe is a doctrine of faith (they are quite proud of this) and are aware there are different faiths.

    2. Re:Fucking Indians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Among all the advocates of "diversity" not a single one can tell me what measurable benefit it is.

      Ooh! Ooh! I can! I'm an advocate of diversity, and I can definitely tell you a measurable benefit: it really pisses off all you pathetic little bigoted dickwads! Honestly, knowing that it annoys you is worth a whole lot to the rest of us.

      I hope this helps your confusion.

    3. Re:Fucking Indians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    4. Re:Fucking Indians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *That* was your best comeback? A 5-year old could have done better. Where's your imagination? Where's your wit? Poor show, my little-minded "friend"

  5. Re:Why would you expect the FCC to? HITLER WAS GOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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  6. First Net Neutrality repeal and now this by darth_borehd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The FCC is sending a big FU to American citizens. This administration gets more awful all the day. When are we going to hit bottom barrell?

  7. PAI MAN BAD by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Troll

    To be fair, it's not Ajit Pai's job to say whether or not ISPs deliver the broadband speed you pay for. His job is to pimp for the biggest telecoms and be the guy who delivers for corporate interests. The services those telecoms provide are entirely outside his purview. The sooner you learn this, the better off we'll all be. He's basically a fluffer for Comcast. I'll bet he has nice soft lips, too.

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  8. Pai is altering the deal by chispito · · Score: 4, Funny

    we are not persuaded that the records you request are so urgent that our normal process will not provide them in a timely manner

    Pray he doesn't alter it any further.

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  9. Get rid of him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    This curry munching corrupt fucktard needs his head cut off.. bring out the guillotines.

  10. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: -1, Troll

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  11. Pai Diddy... jus' bustin' a move... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zup G?

  12. FYI: Net Neutrality is racist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    White men consuming the total bandwidth of the ISPs prevents the minorities from accessing the internet to connect to schools, etc. That's why I'm against Net Neutrality.

    And besides the somewhat controversial debate of Net Neutrality, I think Ajit has been great in all other files.

    Go AP!!!

    1. Re:FYI: Net Neutrality is racist by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Excellent comrade. You have earned an extra 1.5oz of Vodka this shift.

    2. Re:FYI: Net Neutrality is racist by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      correct spelling is actually vodak

      (obscure?)

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    3. Re:FYI: Net Neutrality is racist by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Excellent comrade. You have earned an extra 1.5oz of Vodka this shift.

      Point of order: Russia is on the metric system.

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  13. NN rules get removed by AHuxley · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The networks can be free to innovate and grow all over the USA with less federal NN rules.
    Lets add more rules and laws.

    Let the cities, states and towns work out how they want to internet in their own community and cities.

    The past federal regulations left a lot of slow networks in place as they passed NN rules.
    Staying equally slow to meet federal NN rules is all over the USA is not network innovation.

    Got a slow network?
    Request the existing telco to pay more to build out their new network.
    Ask your community to build their own new network.
    Try and see what a city, state will pay for.
    Federal gov networking?

    That network can only get faster when people using a network pay for the costs of a new network.
    Different parts of the USA can afford to pay for upgrades as they pay for their internet.
    What is testing going to show?
    Great internet. The network is in profit as the wealthy can pay.
    Some network is slow and never had much investment as the people can't/won't pay more for internet services.
    More federal NN rules and more "testing" is not the investment needed.

    Want great internet?
    1. Build it as community broadband and invite every ISP on.
    2. Pay for it as a private network from one telco.
    3. Pay more tax and have the federal gov network the entire USA.
    Measuring an existing network is not going to build a needed new network.

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  14. But 4k 240fps video is so important to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I can't live without watching funny cat videos in any format less than that. It is a misery to live life stuck in only HD resolution and in the restrictive gamut that only three primary colors provide.

  15. So it's coming out eventually. Woo. by SuperKendall · · Score: -1

    What I get out of this is very different than the nazi-flag flying America haters here on Slashdot.

    Basically, the FCC said "It's coming out eventually". So what will you all say when the report is delivered? Probably slink back in your holes you slither out of at the slightest whiff of anti-America (hence Anti-Trump) news.

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    1. Re:So it's coming out eventually. Woo. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      You know you can make more money at a helpdesk call center than doing this bullshit astro-turfing for them, right?

    2. Re:So it's coming out eventually. Woo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're so confident this year's report will be coming, then where's lasts year's report, you plonker?

    3. Re:So it's coming out eventually. Woo. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it actually coming BEFORE the heat death of the universe?

  16. For all its problems, NBN speeds in Australia by prowler1 · · Score: 2

    In Australia, NBN provider speeds are reported to the public.

    https://www.accc.gov.au/media-...

    Sure, the NBN rollout has not been without its problems and controversy but reports on how the various providers are scoring gets reported.

  17. Obviously, the answer is: they're not. by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    If they were, he (the FCC) would tell us - to make the ISPs look good - duh.

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    1. Re:Obviously, the answer is: they're not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not allowing for the possibility that the FCC is checking the data and methods used, since those have been a mess since ever? Not waiting to see the report when released, but jumping straight to "he's evil"?

      #PaiManBad much, NPC?

  18. Freedom of Information Act by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This is where FOIA comes in handy. FCC can't release the report if it doesn't exit but the raw data have to released.

    1. Re:Freedom of Information Act by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Yea, interesting how they're still not doing it though.

  19. Mirror, Pot, Kettle, whatever. by SuperKendall · · Score: 0

    you can make more money at a helpdesk call center than doing this bullshit astro-turfing

    I would point out the same thing to you.

    I'm just working away at real work, shaking my head at you idiot activists trying as hard as you can to meet the quota your Russian masters have set for you. Man, I do not envy you the issues with failure you must have, so I understand how hard you push!

    Me, the worst I have to worry about is a bad code review, but luckily I'm awesome so it never comes to that.

    If you need me to contact the CIA for you to help you get free just blink twice!!

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  20. Re: Why would you expect the FCC to? GNAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amen my fucking brother

  21. And it's updated monthly by Namarrgon · · Score: 2

    This is invaluable info that customers should be more aware of - and the US should follow.

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  22. What a ridiculous story by wyattstorch516 · · Score: 1

    Every ISP oversubscribes their uplinks. This has been the case since day one. The economics would not work otherwise. There is no place on earth that will dedicate 50-100 Mbps for every user all the way through.

    1. Re:What a ridiculous story by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      They could just advertise what they really offer worst case, instead of best case. We could force them to do it by law.

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    2. Re:What a ridiculous story by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Then I guess advertising it as if you had it when they know well that it ain't so is simply and plainly fraud, right?

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  23. it's called future job protection by renegade600 · · Score: 1

    Not surprising. even employees of the fcc should not burn bridges to their future job prospects. most of the top fcc officials usually end up in the industry when they leave government service.

  24. Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's a pie of jism, alright. A jism pie.

    1. Re:Yup by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      No. Just a shit Pile.

      It's already in the name.

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  25. commercial grade by js290 · · Score: 1

    I bet they are for commercial grade connections with a contracted committed information rate (CIR). This is the solution to the net neutrality nonsense.

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  26. For the record by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 2

    My speeds are 250 / 10 and, with rare exceptions, I actually do see these speeds.
    I would say, 99% of the time I typically see the speeds I'm supposed to see. ( Xfinity, surprisingly )

    When I don't, there is usually an outage of some sort that is impacting the area.
    ( Last one some idiot in a truck wiped out a gas line, which caught fire, which melted the pole carrying the fiber :| )

    Though, my example is probably the exception and certainly not the norm for most.

  27. Installation and measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't think I understand.
    When I installed internet where I am, a technician came and did measurements to check the max possible bandwidth, which depends on the line + distance to nearest terminal. And this would be fed in some database.
    Next the ISP gave me access, and then I could test it myself with any available bandwidth tester website.

    Why is there a need for some third party to go on and test bandwidth around?
    Since there either the technician measurements, or regular user that can check if they get what they pay for?

    1. Re:Installation and measure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, you can test your own speed to see if you are getting the bandwidth you pay for. But how do you compile the statistics for 50 million other users testing their connections themselves? Having a third party test and document the results is what is needed.

  28. They've Never Admitted ... Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not just Pai. It's been every FCC along the way. Partisan hack report as always ....

  29. without net neutrality, they don't by RhettLivingston · · Score: 2

    I have Spectrum and am finding that my speeds for streaming are going up dramatically (triple or more) when I stream through a VPN. This is while always measuring the 100 MB speed I pay for or a touch more when running any speed checking service. So we have entered an age where it is useless to say you have a 100 MB connection without saying what data type you're getting that speed with.

  30. Lets call a duck a duck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know we like to make fun of these things, but perhaps it is time to start being bluntly honest about this kind of news.

    FCC is currently a corrupt organisation, being run by the very corporations it was designed to watch. It is corruption, plain and simple.

    1. Re: Lets call a duck a duck by CoolDiscoRex · · Score: 1

      We know, but the 10% get what the 90% will accept. Vote corporate corruption or throw your vote away, the tell them, and they buy it. Democracy is government by people with an average IQ of 98. We canâ(TM)t expect much better.

  31. Comcast Doubled My Speed! by CoolDiscoRex · · Score: 1

    Then hit me with a data cap thatâ(TM)s the same as those paying for 1/10th the speed. At least Iâ(TM)ll hit my cap sooner than they will, though! Suckers!

    1. Re:Comcast Doubled My Speed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're probably hitting your cap sooner because of all those "â(TM)"s in place of apostrophes.

  32. Ajit Pai by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    The best thing Ajit Pai could do is fall down a long flight of concrete steps.

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  33. Just Tell Me When He Is In Jail by HannethCom · · Score: 1

    Under oath he has said that the FCC cannot control ISP throttling of speed under the Internet's current classification. He has also claimed under oath that they can control it by not allowing individual states to impose their own rules.
    Ajit Pai has committed Perjury. Though with the shambles the US court system is in, I doubt the court will do anything about his lying.

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