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Nearby Star Is Sun's Long-Lost Sibling (syfy.com)
The Bad Astronomer writes: A nearby star, HD 186302, was almost certainly born from the same cloud of gas the Sun was 4.6 billion years ago. Astronomers have found it has an almost identical chemical composition as the Sun, is on a similar orbit around the Milky Way, and has the same age (within uncertainties). Interestingly, it's only 184 light years away, implying statistically many more such stars are waiting to be discovered.
Simple question.
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Many stars are closer, e.g. alpha centauri 21 (4.3 ly). Wouldn't be logical to find (/search) similar stars closer than 184 ly?
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Great - now we'll have to invite them along for the holidays :(
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closest star is Alpha Centauri.
Yet from what I can infer they're not from the same gas cloud.
something smells fishy here.
Assuming the dipolar nature of the universe is true. i.e. massless, sizeless, everything is resonant harmonic electric. (Postulates C, D, E..J).
[POSTULATE_ORIENTATION] Everything has a definite orientation, if you could pluck a galaxy from one side of the universe and drop it on the other side, it would flip over. It follows from everything resulting from spin.
As a star gets more massive, the energy density increases. The universe is holding it a resonant F frequency, but once it reaches 8 times the energy density, it wants to resonate at 2F. (i.e. twice the frequency = half the wavelength, in 3 directions = 8 times the energy density).
But everything depend on F, speed of light, propagation of forces through dipolar matter etc. Nothing prevents a 2F universe, and it appears to the people inside to be identical to a 1F universe, because all the forces and interactions depend on F, even their perception of time (Postulate G).
Draw a line from us (at 1F) to the blackhole inside (at 2F), call it the Z axis, and the boundary condition (the event horizon) is when matter switches from 1F resonance bound to us, to 2F resonance bound to the black hole.
No donut, atom, molecule or higher complexity matter can survive that transition, because they would have a Z component and be ripped apart. They get shredded at the event horizon. Only flat dipolar matter can exist (flat along X and Y) and pass through intact.
Since light binds to matter (Postulate J0), there can be no Z component in light outside the event horizon either. Only X and Y. Light with an XY component can spread out from *behind* the black hole and be wrapped around it to form a halo. The halo is not an accretion disc, it will always appears to wrap around the outside from whichever direction you look at the black hole.
Inside the black hole, dipolar matter appears at the outer edge of the event horizon and slows down. Why slower? It's a perception thing, forces are cyclical (Postulate J4), traveling at C is the same as standing still at zero (because its a harmonic resonant bind... a force derives from the energy needed to move a thing from its resonant harmonic). i.e. the increase from 1.9F to 2.0F appears to be the same as the decrease from 2.1F to 2.0F in a 2F universe. It is a +- phase difference.
Inside a black hole, matter can now form with a Z component, so it does, it simply forms at 2F relative to us at 1F.
Black holes can form inside the black holes, they will be 4F relative to us.
Speculative: black holes are another F harmonic oscillation, taking in matter, spitting it out, as an oscillation.
They compress matter by breaking down complexity to from higher energy density, they expand by the formation of matter reducing energy density (a monopole is a point, a dipole a W length line, a dipole with a phase component is a WxW disc, a donut is 3 dimensional etc. each iteration making a less energy dense matter...).
Black hole expansion phase: Matter accelerates out to the event horizon of the universe, is shredded and disappears across the event horizon. 'Accelerates' because 2F to 1.9F is the same as 2F to 2.1F, it appears as an increasing phase difference. In fact it is the outside universe trying to slow down the 2F oscillation to 1F.
Conclusion 1:
We are in a black hole during expansion phase, there was no big bang. Outside our universe we appear to be another black hole.
Conclusion 2:
POSTULATE_ORIENTATION would be the opposite for half of the galaxies, since half of black holes inside of them must be spitting out matter.
I've looked at the simbad catalog for this star and got the coordinates, unlike the article linked it is in constellation Pavo and not Norma as I checked this through the program xephem with the coordinates given by simbad. I hope I didn't make a mistake...
They must never meet.
What happened 4.6 billion years ago?
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If, sentient life as we know it relies on super nova explosions to get some of the higher atomic elements into the mix, how did that come about for us here?
Was the planet formed, then got splattered with super nova gold? Did the material end up in the swirling gas cloud? Is there a chance to back track and find out angles of splat?
Anyway, where ever it was, when ever it was, we should hunt down the life star. Send it a thank you card for giving up the fusions.
I can only assume having two samples from the same dust cloud might help in tracking down the time, x, y, z source point of the super nova explosion? If or if not, said higher elements are detectable on the sibling?
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I make that about 27mph on average, so this star could move around town without getting a speeding ticket. Not least because it would obliterate the town and the whole planet.
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... on star HD 186302 an almost identical news report has been published.
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I for one would like to welcome slashdot to last week or perhaps even the week before, when I first read about this. Welcome!
Of course, it's not like I should be surprised, it happens so often.
More stars to be discovered? We can see distant galaxies. What stars nearby are waiting to be discovered?
What the hell - now we get the Sun (as in the company that began as Stanford University Network) logo on stories about Sol? That's even worse than the DEC logo on stories about "digital" things. It isn't even that long ago that Sun was an independent company - surely the editors have memories longer than a decade?
Does it also have an Earth sibling, too?
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For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
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The same stories get spammed to soylentnews as well, from the same poster.
I personally think this is another example of public perception curation through people taking kickbacks to push stories for publicity purposes, whether the website, an individual, or corporation.
What does it take to upgrade this to the solar system's twin? Or will these solar-twin systems forever remain half sisters?
Name the star Abby, then we have Abby Norma.
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Some back of the envelope calculations suggests that it would have only had to move at 43 km/h, or ~27 mp/h to get that far.
178 light years / 4.5bn years = 40 ly/bn y
40 ly = 3.784e+14 kms
3.784e+14 / 1bn = 378400 km/year
365*24 hours per year = 8760
378400 / 8760 = 43.2 km/hour = 27 mph