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YouTube Will Remove All Pop-up Annotations on January 15 (engadget.com)

Early last year, YouTube announced that it would be retiring annotations, those boxes that pop up during a video with links and additional information. It discontinued the annotations editor in May of last year and soon all existing annotations will be going away as well. From a report: The company added an update to the help page announcing the end of its annotations editor, saying, "We will stop showing existing annotations to viewers starting January 15, 2019. All existing annotations will be removed."

91 comments

  1. I would just be happy by OYAHHH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they would stop placing the links to additional videos during the last few seconds of the video I am watching. Is this the popup annotations as described?

    Regardless, it is highly annoying to have additional video icons displayed prior to the end of the video I am watching. These "adverts" block some pretty interesting material in many cases.

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    1. Re:I would just be happy by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Hmm..first I've heard of the normal annotations being removed.

      WTF are they doing that? It is a great way to give viewers extra info, like a Part 1 if they hit Part 2 first...etc.

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    2. Re:I would just be happy by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I thought they did that just to irritate people. It certainly worked with me - I never click on those, so they're hurting themselves by doing it.

    3. Re:I would just be happy by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Ok...after posting.

      I actually went and read the article....missed that one the first time around.

      I guess they can do what they want, but I found that if I wait til the end to try to go back and look for the reference earlier in the video they mentioned, I'd forget to do so and miss out.

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    4. Re:I would just be happy by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The were abused badly. Hidden rectangles that covered e.g. the volume control tht linked to "subscribe", for example. This is why we can't have nice things.

      Which sucks, because YouTube has no good way to edit a video once posted (much like Slashdot), so annotations were the one way you could correct a stupid mistake after the fact, by popping up a correction as you said the stupid thing.

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    5. Re:I would just be happy by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am pretty sure they were removed mostly in part is that they didn't work all that great on mobile

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    6. Re:I would just be happy by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 2
      Link since I found it:

      YouTube kills annotations to make way for mobile-friendly features

      https://www.engadget.com/2017/...
      Google is a mobile only company. If anything works on a desktop system, that is just a bonus.

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    7. Re:I would just be happy by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 2

      Those are end cards that can appear in the last 20 seconds of the video. If enabled for older videos and videos without a dedicated end card screen, the end cards will overlay existing content. A dedicated end card screen can be added to the video before uploading to YouTube.

    8. Re:I would just be happy by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Annotations work great on the desktop. Not so much on mobile. And mobile is where most videos are being watched these days. Mobile also has no ad blockers to prevent ads from being shown..

    9. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is stupid and lazy. The end of video "cards" work just fine on mobile. That proves they never tried to make annotations work.

    10. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is so incredible. My mind is blown. Just add wallpaper

    11. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mobile also has no ad blockers to prevent ads from being shown..

      It does if you're jailbroken. :)

    12. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      T-Mobile auto skips Youtube ads after 5 seconds, even the unskippable ads if I am on cell data...
      If I turn wifi on that feature stops working :(

    13. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm..first I've heard of the normal annotations being removed.

      WTF are they doing that? It is a great way to give viewers extra info, like a Part 1 if they hit Part 2 first...etc.

      Probably because many viewers immediately turn them off due to how much they are abused. I'd be fine with it if my accounts would actually REMEMBER that I've turned them off and want them off, they keep defaulting back to "on" every time I sign in.

    14. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      nope. that's an advertisement.

      the annotations are just that. text notes added by the creator.

      this is a very nice feature for 'how to' type videoo that is being discontinued and de-published (as the existing annotations will be lost).

      as is the case with everything else google. don't ever count on it.. for anything.

    15. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are superfluous. You can put annotations directly in the video itself and link those to whatever you want.

    16. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm..first I've heard of the normal annotations being removed.

      WTF are they doing that? It is a great way to give viewers extra info, like a Part 1 if they hit Part 2 first...etc.

      Because they are annoying and massively abused.
      I've blocked them for ages.

    17. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They don't want you to ever get to Part 2 and beyond, they want you to get distracted by trending feeds and targeted ads.

    18. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AFAIK annotations NEVER worked in mobile or chromecast, likely not in the HTML5 version of their site either since they moved away from flash.

      The only bad part about this is for those who did not abuse annotations is that there might be information relevant to the video, post upload corrections or other info that gets lost with this change. It might be nice to see section in the video description that shows annotations that previously existed on a video and at what time points they were displayed

    19. Re:I would just be happy by Orrin+Bloquy · · Score: 1

      likely not in the HTML5 version of their site either

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      Straight HTML5

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    20. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessary. I installed Adblock Browser. Probably virus riddled, no ads.

    21. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They take space from advertisement popups. The Youtube is going the way of TV, add more ads until all your watchers are gone.

    22. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Project much?

    23. Re: I would just be happy by houghi · · Score: 1

      You can remove the video. Or take more time editing. Using a script helps a lot.
      There are two things that turn me off on YouTube videos. The first is bad sound. The second is no editing.

      You are not going live, so edit and reshoot if it is crap. It will shorten many 30 miinute videos where people shout "focus" to a 5 minute one woth actual content.

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    24. Re: I would just be happy by houghi · · Score: 1

      The few times I warched a YouTube video, I have not seen an add. Must be doing something wrong.

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    25. Re: I would just be happy by houghi · · Score: 1

      And that included income.

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    26. Re: I would just be happy by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      What if swearing at the camera is the content?

      It may be that the videos are already heavily edited, you just didn't understand the specific production values that are popular now.

      Or, maybe you're just not very good at selecting videos you will then enjoy?

    27. Re:I would just be happy by Pezbian · · Score: 1

      Yes! Thank you!

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    28. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox with adblock ;) cleanest mobile web available.

    29. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " have not seen an add"

      I'll bet you haven't seen a subtraction or multiplication either, dumbshit,

    30. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no, not a big project at all, simply making sure your fact-free posts are called out for the bullshit that they are.

    31. Re:I would just be happy by zarmanto · · Score: 1

      If they would stop placing the links to additional videos during the last few seconds of the video I am watching. Is this the popup annotations as described?...

      I don't think that's it, actually; those are paid promotional links... and they're definitely not going away. Rather, the best example of popup annotations that I've seen would be in this captioned version of Witch Doctor.

      Note that the popups already fail to display within some of the more modern video players, such as on iOS... so for those of you who don't have access to a more "traditional" computing device: the most obvious series of popups in the video are a set of random colored blocks which abruptly overlay the video composer's comment that this was the first video he ever made, alongside a popup which reads, "I wish I hadn't put that in."

    32. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about when the annotations are pop-up facts?

      I've put almost 100 into this video. I'll be sad to see them go.

    33. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess most people are gluttons for punishment, watching stuff on mobile.

    34. Re:I would just be happy by jjbenz · · Score: 1

      I use Firefox with ublock and it works pretty well.

    35. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are being removed because they can be used to subvert content restrictions and DRM on YouTube, and because they can interfere with advertising.

    36. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mods disagree with you. Take your fact-free shitshow to Reddit.

    37. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    38. Re: I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People with low uids are dipshits with nothing to contribute.

    39. Re:I would just be happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, this is

    40. Re: I would just be happy by lgw · · Score: 1

      You can remove the video. Or take more time editing. Using a script helps a lot.

      These are not viable substitutes. Let me give you an example: the PBS SpaceTime channel. It's professionally produced and scripted, but they sometimes get their physics wrong, and have it pointed out by the comments.

      So what should they do? Ideally, update the video. YouTube doesn't allow that. Replacing the video is entirely useless, as YouTube doesn't have a re-direct. So what they do is acknowledge the error and talk about it in the next video, witch is nice but totally useless if youre not watching them in order. For simple mistakes, they could add an annotation on screen while the mistaken line was being said.

      Other similar channels, like Brady Haran's channels, are in interview format with professors. Sometimes mistakes are spotted in editing. There's no time to re-do the interview - that's nuts. Instead they simply use annotations (the errors are usually just the wrong word being said, so the annotation is a perfect fix).

      It will shorten many 30 miinute videos where people shout "focus" to a 5 minute one woth actual content.

      Yeah, who cares about that garbage. I'm talking about the valuable stuff on YouTube.

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  2. Trump may be removed before Jan 15th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At this rate he may not make it to Friday.

  3. Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 3, Funny

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Whoever sent you this link is doing you a massive fucking favor.

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    1. Re: Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worst music ever...worse than dubstep and mumble rap not even kidding.

    2. Re:Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      A few comments:

      Breanna
      I have no idea why I like this band so much.

      Imster
      this is the kind of music that I should really hate but I really love it and I don't know why is Jimmy brainwashing us it's so addictive

      F*ck everybody else

    3. Re: Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      This shit is so bad it could win a grammy - This dick is so sick it could start a family now - This calls for a celebration - With a little in vitro fertilization

    4. Re:Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

      Kinda reminds me of GWAR with better music and more WooooHooo's instead of Aaaaaarrrghhhhh's.

    5. Re:Sometimes the annotations are awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kinda reminds me of GWAR with better music and more WooooHooo's instead of Aaaaaarrrghhhhh's.

      Shut your whore mouth mortal maggot.

  4. Add missing information by SmaryJerry · · Score: 2

    I thought these annotations were used sort of as a post uploading editing feature. People always correct what they said, provide links to their new video about a topic or whatever. That said I'm happy to see them go.

    1. Re:Add missing information by Sigma+7 · · Score: 3, Informative

      People always correct what they said, provide links to their new video about a topic or whatever.

      If only there was a place where they could write some text to provide some errata. Maybe it could be placed below the video, perhaps after the major title, and account that uploaded the video... placing it before the comments...

      It would be quite a useful feature if it were implemented. /s

      But really, I've seen obnoxious use of annotations outnumber the proper use.

    2. Re:Add missing information by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They always say "check the description down below for the link", and I'm like "how do I do that on my smart TV? can't you just put the URL on the screen or a QR code I can scan with my phone?"

      But alas they always make me open the video again on my phone or PC just to get that link.

      It's even worse when there are vital corrections in the description, and I never see it because a) I usually watch on a smart TV and b) I rarely look at the description even on desktop.

      A compromise solution would be forced subtitles. Unclickable to prevent abuse.

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  5. Worse replacement as well by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

    In the ongoing Google tradition of making shit worse, the cards have always been terrible. They are worse than what they are trying to replace.

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  6. Legitimate uses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a guy who i subscribe to who uses annotations to point to previous videos that he makes reference to (even points to the top of the screen when he makes them) to give you more context on what they are talking about, it's a pity they are retiring it as they are useful. I can understand that they want the platform to the same across any device but if that's the case why do i need to pay for youtube red if i want to minimize the app on my phone? i can minimise the tab in my browser on my computer.

  7. Good-bye Kaizo Trap by tepples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Removing annotations will break the concept of Kaizo Trap and other interactive works that use YouTube as a substitute for the deprecated Adobe Flash Player.

    1. Re:Good-bye Kaizo Trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And nothing of value was lost.

  8. Value add by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe these annotations can be abused, but in my experience, they usually add helpful notes to a video (e.g. "look at this thing over here!") without needing to be baked in. Kind of like a subtitle track, but more freeform.

    This is going to remove a lot of the value-add of watching videos in the actual YouTube viewer (Web page, app, whatever). This was always one of the big arguments against just pulling videos down with youtube-dl and watching them in mplayer/VLC, and they're getting rid of it. I don't understand why they couldn't have just tweaked the way they are implemented to cut down the abuse.

    1. Re:Value add by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      To each his own. I want to watch videos not obscured by annotations that may, or may not, be interesting.

    2. Re:Value add by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      You always had the option to turn off annotations. To each his own is so last decade. Now it's to everybody the most oversimplified phone-optimized interface.

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  9. Wait for it by AndyKron · · Score: 2

    I'm sure they something even more annoying in mind. Wait for it.

    1. Re:Wait for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure they something even more annoying in mind. Wait for it.

      No need to wait, it's already there - "cards". And unlike annotations, you can't turn them off.

  10. Strange days lie ahead for Youtube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    WTF are all these people pointing at?

  11. What are these cards? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

    What are these cards they speak of?
    I have never came across one that I recall.

    The end screen idea was nice, but it really didn't do anything that the annotations didn't.

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  12. Unintentional clickbait by hedge00 · · Score: 1

    These cards often are posted right near the end of a video. I click on the video to pause it and end up hitting one of the links. I doubt that's a coincidence. Should use spacebar instead though.

    1. Re:Unintentional clickbait by Xenx · · Score: 1

      But, spacebar only works if it has focus.

    2. Re:Unintentional clickbait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Those are a modern thing they added that does work on mobile. THOSE aren't going away.

      (Hint; if it can be removed by clicking on the Cog and turning off annotations, it's going away. If it's those thumbnails of other videos that obscures the closing minutes of the video you're watching, those are staying. You can tell, as they don't go away when you switch off annotations in teh Cog menu.)

  13. Yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had it disabled through YT addon years ago.

  14. Good fucking riddance! by Sebby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've found it incredibly stupid to have those popup in the middle of a video - what am I supposed to do with those? Click on them, thereby stop watching what I currently want to watch before it's done?!?

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    1. Re:Good fucking riddance! by Trogre · · Score: 1

      You know you can just turn them off, right?

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    2. Re:Good fucking riddance! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know you can just turn them off, right?

      Didn't you have to be logged in, and also turn them off every single video?

      I don't remember, but it was actually easier to block them entirely, so it couldn't have been as simple as you claim.

    3. Re:Good fucking riddance! by Sebby · · Score: 1

      You know you can just turn them off, right?

      Looking at the settings in the YouTube app on both iOS and Android, I don't see any option to turn them off.

      And if you have to log into your Google account to find that option, well, fuck that complicated, obfuscated shit.

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  15. Yea! Those Suck Ballz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    End cards suck hairy sweaty ballz.

  16. Soo many things will be lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soo many videos have things like "To see the results, click *there* [clickable box pops up]".
    Sometimes, those are essential! You cannot remove them, without ruining the video!

    And yes, soo many videos will be very confusing, because "Err, I meant ..., of course" annotations will be missing.

    Why you'd be happy to see such a useful feature go, is beyond me.

    Meanwhile, YT now offers this completely useful (I) button on the top right, where you could add polls, or maybe other things... but nobody knows, since nobody ever clicked those things, in all of the history of the universe forever.
    Oh, and stupid text posts.

    No, YouTube. Not every site has to add features until it becomes a "social media community" or Facebook.
    Fix your insanely shitty suggestion algorithms, instead of being in denial!

  17. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They could never cover anything but the video itself. Not link to "subscribe".

    And I watch a shitload of YouTube videos, and I have never come across more than the occasional large overlaying rectangle on, and this is key, a very shitty video of a channel that I clicked for the first time, and I and everybody else will never click again.

    It was never an issue on any channel that was interested getting any regular viewers or ad money.
      you click a shit video, you get shit in the video, in the title, in the description, in the comments, and in the annotations. Why would they be any different?

    The issue were the channels themselves. Not the annotations!

    But hey, given how often I see people, and even laws going "Some people do something harmful, ... so let's ban ALL people and things belong to any of the vague super-groups that happen to contain those people! ... Juuust like the Nazis did*", ... I'm not surprised.
    Detestable.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by lgw · · Score: 1

      They could never cover anything but the video itself. Not link to "subscribe".

      At least in my browser, the volume controls - all the controls - are inside the video area, and can be covered by annotation rectangles. And they can do "click here to subscribe" links without warning. Dark UX patterns.

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    2. Re:Bullshit by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      And you still use it.

    3. Re:Bullshit by lgw · · Score: 1

      I've had annotations turned off in user settings for years.

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  18. Mobile ad blockers by klossner · · Score: 1

    Mobile also has no ad blockers to prevent ads from being shown.

    iPhone doesn't, but Android users can install AdGuard. It blocks ads from all apps, not just from the web browser. I've been using it for years.

    1. Re:Mobile ad blockers by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      iPhone does have ad-blockers for web content.

  19. Good riddance by stevenm86 · · Score: 1

    These were used primary for * Check out my other videoooooozzz!!!! * LIKE THARE AND THUBTHCRIBE!!!!!!!1111111oneoneoneelevencos(0) Finally it will be nice to see that garbage gone (at least when using a public terminal, since I've had that garbage blocked long, long ago).

    1. Re:Good riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well some instructional video uses this feature and is very useful.

      For example bicycle repair instruction video like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMV-SOIhM2c where it shows u how to identify the crank u have then give an annotation to the correct video u should look at for removal of that particular model. So be quite sad this feature is going away.

  20. You awake to find yourself in a dark room! by ziggr · · Score: 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    I will really miss John Robertson's "Dark Room", A maze of little youtube clips linked together via annotations.

    Mapping out the original 2012 maze was pleasant evenings' diversion. And I learned more about the war between steam and electricity.

  21. tepples and his ghey games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    truly a salt mine without end

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  23. Why not just default to off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somehow, whenever I visit Youtube, I have to go to settings to switch annotations off (no, I don't want to 'log-in'). Why don't they just default to off, instead of scrapping the entire feature?

    1. Re:Why not just default to off by Pezbian · · Score: 3, Informative

      Somehow, whenever I visit Youtube, I have to go to settings to switch annotations off (no, I don't want to 'log-in'). Why don't they just default to off, instead of scrapping the entire feature?

      That's as likely as Facebook defaulting your feed to "Most Recent".

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  24. Domo arigato by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    Can they do something about the videos with the fake robot voiceover that reads wikipedia entries next?

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  25. Understandable but a pity as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Many annotations were very annoying and spam like. However, back when I made quite a lot of youtube videos, I occasionally added a few annotations based on questions of people in the comments, a bit of extra clarification. That was a good use.

  26. What browser would that be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what crap channels are you watching??

    I’d love to see a link to this working in Firefox. On a channel that's not clearly malicious or absolute crap.
    I would absolutely take back what I said then. And I promise that I will not use any "no true Scotsman" fallacy, and be fair.