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China Expands Research Funding, Luring US Scientists and Students (npr.org)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from NPR: In the past decade or so, China has been expanding its commitment to scientific research, and it shows. Chinese researchers now produce more scientific publications than U.S. scientists do, and the global ratings of Chinese universities are rising. Five years ago [professor of chemistry at the University of California, San Diego, JaySiegel] became dean of the school of pharmaceutical science and technology at Tianjin University. He says the university president recruited him to build an undergraduate program that would attract students from all over -- not just China. Siegel says the program is taught entirely in English. There's another aspect of getting a pharmaceutical science degree at Tianjin that Siegel expects students from throughout the world to find particularly attractive: The Chinese government plans to offer scholarships to cover the cost for students who enroll. Siegel says this is all part of China's effort to attract international scientists. Of course, there are some drawbacks with working in China. There are internet restrictions, making it difficult to reach certain websites; English isn't spoken throughout most of the country, posing a problem for many foreign visitors; and free speech isn't the same concept as it is in the United States. With that said, "There's no interference politically on the science," says Greg Herczeg, an astronomer at the Kavli Institute for Astronomy and Astrophysics at Peking University.

"We've had no political restrictions," says Siegel. "I know that people talk about them being out there, and I've heard rumors of things. But, for us personally, I would have to say no, I've not had that experience."

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  1. "You too can make astounding discovery claims" by DalM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Want to make astounding and unsubstantiated claims about scientific discoveries? Move your research to beautiful China, where you can get a government grant to publish basically whatever you want with almost no peer-review."

    1. Re:"You too can make astounding discovery claims" by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Want to make astounding and unsubstantiated claims about scientific discoveries? Move your research to beautiful China, where you can get a government grant to publish basically whatever you want with almost no peer-review."

      Citation needed

      No need. He published his comment from China.

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  2. GOOD by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The more money gets spent on science, the better. Some of it will be wasted, of course, but that's reality. If they even invent one great thing, make one great discovery, then all of humanity benefits.

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  3. No political interference on the science? by fredrated · · Score: 2

    We could learn from the Chinese.

  4. English isn't spoken by magarity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Chinese pronunciation is the only weird thing about the language. Otherwise, there are no irregular verbs mainly because verbs aren't conjugated in the first place. There's no gender assignment to any words like in French or Spanish. The sentence order is like basic English structure: subject - verb - object.

    If you go live there full time it's fairly easy to learn to speak.

    1. Re:English isn't spoken by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Absolutely, just need to make sure you pronounce "shi" correctly.

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  5. Re:There's no interference politically on the scie by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is corruption in China, for sure, though there have been attempts to rein it in in recent years. Also, I agree there is plenty of questionable science coming from Chinese institutions, though I suspect there is at least as much coming from Western start-ups looking for funding.

    With all the issues, China should not be underestimated. A country does not achieve sustained rapid growth and improvement in living standards over 30 years without doing a lot right. Those at the highest levels of government have made good decisions more often than in most of its competitors.

    China actually scares me, partly because of its success. They believe they should again be the dominant force in Asia as they were centuries ago. Increasingly, they are going to be in a position to seize what they believe they are entitled to. That is not good for other countries in the region.

  6. Re:Of course, there are some drawbacks by balbeir · · Score: 2
    Well the "official" imprisonment rate is lower.

    Given that people are disappearing left and right in China the real imprisonment rate is probably much higher. Like with all totalitarian regimes.

    Or maybe it's just "re-education". Like the nice tourist camps the USSR used to have in Siberia.