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France To Close Four Coal-Fired Power Plants By 2022, 14 Nuclear Reactors By 2035 (cleantechnica.com)

Socguy shares a report from CleanTechnica: French President Emmanuel Macron gave a speech on Tuesday in which he announced a raft of new energy policies, including a promise to close the country's remaining four coal-fired power plants by 2022 and 14 of the country's 900 MW first-generation nuclear reactors by 2035. "The generation capacity will be replaced with wind and solar," adds Slashdot reader Socguy. The closure of the 14 nuclear reactors will reduce nuclear's contribution to the energy mix from its current level of 75% to 50% by 2035.

"I would have liked to be able to do it as early as 2025, as provided for by the Energy Transition Law," Macron added, "but it turned out, after pragmatic expertise, that this figure brandished as a political totem was in fact unattainable. We therefore decided to maintain this 50% cap, but by postponing the deadline to 2035."

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  1. We need to consume less and better by aglider · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Less energy and more efficient usage is the key to real environmentally savvy policies.
    Renewables and lower prices can lead to higher energy use.

    And maybe we'd be less people on the planet. But this is another story.

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    1. Re:We need to consume less and better by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Less energy and more efficient usage is the key to real environmentally savvy policies. Renewables and lower prices can lead to higher energy use.

      Higher energy use is by itself a good thing. If we had enough cheap energy, we could transmute lead into gold as much as we wanted. The more energy you have the more cool things you can make happen.

      The only problem is when energy production damages the environment. That is what we want to avoid, but don't get confused that the goal is less energy use.

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  2. Re:France goes dark by mentil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It might be more useful to point out that 'gut feeling = cognitive bias' whenever someone mentions they feel something to be true.

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  3. Re:Macron is a “threat to our democracy&rdqu by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quite literally: https://www.npr.org/2018/11/27...

    Refusing to cave in to the demands of a mob is not a threat to democracy.

    It is more accurate to say the mob is the threat. The protesters should take their demands to the voters, rather than rioting in the streets.

  4. Re:France goes dark by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cognitivie bias develops because a person's experience detects a pattern of things happening. It is a good type of bias, which helps us stay alive because it's correct more often than it's not. There is nothing wrong with going with your gut instincts when you have nothing else to go on.

    The problem is sticking to your gut instincts when faced with contradictory evidence.

  5. Re:France goes dark by Voice+of+satan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I too speak both French and bullshit.

    Which means i have heard of this declaration elsewhere and in other contexts. In short, nobody in the energy sector takes it seriously. France in not Germany and their administration is a more efficient counterweight in face of the public opinion. And nobody there wants to end up like Germany in regard to energy.

    They know they are close to their optimum with roughly 80% nuke and 20% hydroelectric. One part of the hydroelectric power being in fact nuke electricity pumped in reversible hydro plants. The Cour Des Comptes, their equivalent of the general accounting office is screaming when they see the economics of subsidies towards wind and solar, especially wind.

    So, all those public schedules are probably unrealisable bullshit to win the votes of the uneducated. And Macron probably knows explaining that, if that ever happens, will be the problem of someone else.

    When i talk with researchers in the non-scam energy sector, i often have the impression they wait for the hippy generation to croak so more rational policies can be enacted.

  6. Re: France goes dark by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's true; we just need to kill off enough of the world's population, and move the remaining fraction to places where hydro power is plentiful. Problem solved!

  7. Re:Macron is a “threat to our democracy&rdqu by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite literally: https://www.npr.org/2018/11/27...

    You don't understand the difference between democracy and tyranny of the minority. Quite Literally.

  8. Re:France goes dark by mcvos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't have to conquer Algeria to invest in solar power there. I think exporting solar power to Europe would be an excellent industry for North-African countries.

    But France still has plenty of rooftops that haven't yet been covered with solar panels, and France has plenty of coastline for wind turbines.

    All in all, this plan sounds pretty much perfect: replace coal as soon as possible, keep nuclear around for now but see if you can replace it in the future. Whether that's feasible by 2033 remains to be seen, but setting it as a goal requires a lot of investment in solar and wind, and that's definitely good.

  9. Headline BS. Announced another 10 year delay by raymorris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The headline is BS. It's the opposite of the announcement. Here's what the announcement actually said:

    We had planned on getting to 50% by 2025, but our new target is 2035.

    In other words, they announced that wind and solar are NOT. going to work out like they had previously said. By 2035 Macron will be long out of office and it will be somebody else's problem to explain why the new target is 2055.

  10. Re:Build Me a Wall by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, basically the regressive left hates nukes (because they want people to use less power, from what I can tell, and nukes tend to hurt their arguments) so they legally fight every new nuke plant incessantly. Then, the come on /. and other such forums and say "see, nukes are too expensive, can't have them". They don't have to be that expensive, and probably at some point governments need to make it illegal to file baseless lawsuits against power companies for stuff like this.