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Amazon Will Be Off All Oracle Databases By End of 2019, Says AWS Chief
Amazon Web Services CEO Andy Jassy said in an interview on Wednesday that almost all of Amazon's databases that ran on Oracle will be on an Amazon database instead. "We're virtually done moving away from Oracle on the database side," Jassy said. "And I think by the end of 2019 or mid-2019 we'll be done." CNBC reports: Amazon is reducing its reliance on Oracle for its data needs and is instead using its own services. Jassy said 88 percent of Amazon databases that were running on Oracle will be on Amazon DynamoDB or Amazon Aurora by January. He added that 97 percent of "mission critical databases" will run on DynamoDB or Aurora by the end of the year. On Nov. 1, Amazon moved its data warehouse from Oracle to its own service, Redshift, Jassy said.
Oracle can't let this work without a hitch. Or the rest of their victims will start to get ideas.
Bezos better have new hires work in a fake 'live', target rich environment for a few months. Let the moles find things to break, then fire them.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
They offered an alternative to IBM that many considered to be a good choice at the time .. much better
Today, it's just expensive and old, while the competition got better
Times change
It's true, Oracle sucks, it can't operate at Amazon-scale. That being said, Amazon's internal history of database technologies is so convoluted it's almost comical.
Why do giant corp execs always have fake sounding names? I'm starting to wonder if they are all run by AI bots and they've just been generating press releases to make us think it's business as usual and we don't notice the bot overlord takeover til it's too late...
Why would $ome company $top using Oracle'$ $exy databa$e?
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Wow... if this actually works and Amazon doesn't go down in flames,
Amazon has a new cloud product it can sell and a migration path for current Oracle customers away from the death-grip of Oracle.
So time to buy AMZN and sell ORCL while Oracle is High and Amazon is Low.
This just goes to show that when you are a totally unreasonable in license negotiation that trying to squeeze every penny out of every customer because you think you have a monopoly isn't the best play.
It would be interesting to know how compatible the Amazon database is with Oracle and how much pain is involved in the migration.
Will Oracle sue Amazon for copyright infringement on their API aka Oracle vs. Google over JAVA API?
Will Amazon sell or bundle this new database for free in their cloud offerings?
Will the largest Oracle on planet earth, the US Government take a look at Amazon?
What do DBAs really think about all of this?
This should be in the tech new for some time to come. :)
I'm no fan of Amazon as a company, but that bastard Oracle deserves to lose all his customers.
I only hope other locked-in companies watch the Amazon transition with great interest.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Amazon Aurora is technically Oracle-based, depending on how you look at it, since it's based off MySQL, which is currently an Oracle product. According to https://www.percona.com/blog/2..., it is based off the MySQL database source code of 5.6.10, which was released 2013-02-05, 3 years and 1 month after Oracle purchased Sun, which is 2 years after Sun bought MySQL.
I recall reading about Aurora this YEARS ago. (at the time, at least) Aurora is really just a proprietary storage engine that they dropped into MySQL.
They now have versions "compatible with" both MySQL and PostgreSQL.
The PostgreSQL one is the one they are using internally!
Nobody thinks MySQL is what Amazon means by "off of Oracle".
Anyway, they're just using the engine, not the storage. And, granted, they should using MariaDB. Larry seems like the kind of guy who would be happy to sue them over some technicality here, the way they tried to clobber Google with a stupid java header copyright theory.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
What a choice.
Postgresql would benefit greatly from some Amazon support.
And Dynamo, NoSql, for ERP systems?
They may well look back on Oracle with fond memories...
I didn't want to read the article, so I didn't. Luckily, the summary mentioned "DynamoDB" and "Amazon Aurora". Now would be a good time to learn a bit about them, add it to the resume, and grit the teeth for the inevitable: headhunter spam. Don't worry, folks. I'm still a die hard MariaDB and PostgreSQL fan. However, I don't see a reason not to look on the other side of the fence for a sec... either way, take some time to do a victory dance that Oracle got a kick to the groin.
Does Oracle want them to fully license the physical hosts cores in the composing the VM cluster??
For AWS that must be like 1,000,000+ cores even only %0.05 need to run Oracle under the 1000 page EULA Oracle is the one to make judgment calls on what is part of the systems.
You're in luck! Amazon Aurora is basically a different backend for PostgreSQL (just announced) or MySQL that simplifies management. You don't have to learn anything new.
Ofcourse a lot of companies are not on oracle, or have migrated away, however none of them are as big as Amazon.
And that is important, because if they can move away from Oracle so can anybody.
This might be the start of a real exodus towards other db's in many big enterprises.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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If they still have PeopleSoft, they could always replace it with the combo of Workday/Salesforce, or something of that ilk. As a bonus, Workday was founded by David Duffield, who also founded PeopleSoft and was forced out as part of a hostile takeover of PeopleSoft by Oracle. As such, Id imagine that Duffield would love to stick it to Oracle wherever possible.
When I worked at HP, they managed to pull off the move from PeopleSoft to Workday and it was smoother than expected, given that it was HP. So if they can do it, I'm sure Amazon could do the same.
Oracle Will Sue Amazon By End of 2019, Says Experience
plenty of alternatives to oracle's overpriced crap that comes with pestilent auditors that camp in your company for months wasting your resources.
ADP, Workday, SAP, TriNet, etc.
Two projects in the last decade have been moving from Oracle to SQL server. One for a 2 year old system with 300 + million data rows and a growth rate of 10 million per month and the other for a old legacy application with 100 concurrent users.
In both cases, IT management made the case of a multiyear period that Oracle was costing many tens of thousands more each year to keep going.
These were large systems with many hundreds of web pages, a large user base but no really special processing needs above and beyond basic SQL queries, Stored Procedures and views.