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Floyd Mayweather, DJ Khaled Charged For Illegally Touting Crypto Offerings (theverge.com)

The Securities and Exchange Commission is charging DJ Khaled and professional boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr for failing to disclose that they were paid promotional fees to tout fraudulent initial coin offerings. The Verge reports: According to the SEC, this is the first time that individuals have faced charges involving ICOs. The Commission is accusing Mayweather of failing to disclose a $100,000 promotional payment and DJ Khaled with a $50,000 one. Both celebrities received these promotional fees from Centra Tech, Inc. earlier this year. Neither Mayweather nor Khaled have admitted to or denied the Commission's findings, but both have agreed to pay back what they had received to promote the ICO and are facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in additional penalties each. "These cases highlight the importance of full disclosure to investors," said SEC Enforcement Division co-director Stephanie Avakian. "With no disclosure about the payments, Mayweather and Khaled's ICO promotions may have appeared to be unbiased, rather than paid endorsements."

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  1. fraud by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree with disclosure, but if anyone bought cryptocoin because of advice they got from Floyd Mayweather, they are going to be parted with their money sooner or later. I don't know what is wrong with America that allows this kind of advertising strategy to work, but it might very well be the central problem in America at the moment.

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    1. Re:fraud by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 5, Funny

      So Mayweather isn't qualified to give investment advice just because he can't read and gets punched in the head for a living?

      That's a rather elitist attitude.

    2. Re: fraud by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Says someone who never drove down highway 5. The population isn't the problem here otherwise rural people would not be falling for this kind of thing.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    3. Re:fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Answer: A decades long trend that de-emphasized critical thinking skills, hence the rise in gullibility. See also: cable news, AM radio and Infowars.

      Next question please.

    4. Re: fraud by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah you're right. I'm sorry, I let my privilege show.

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    5. Re:fraud by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Stupidity, vast overestimation of your own skills ans insight and greed are not an US problem only. But since the US seems to be fracturing, with less and less cohesion of society, it may be especially bad there at the moment.

      You are right that this is probably one of the central problems of the human race though. If you lump religion and xenophobia in with stupidity (I do), it certainly is the central problem.

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    6. Re:fraud by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      If you figure it out, let us know. I think we can probably generalize the root causes to the general mammalian population.

    7. Re:fraud by gravewax · · Score: 1

      I agree with disclosure, but if anyone bought cryptocoin because of advice they got from Floyd Mayweather, they are going to be parted with their money sooner or later. I don't know what is wrong with America that allows this kind of advertising strategy to work, but it might very well be the central problem in America at the moment.

      ^this, I always wonder what sort of fucked up retard you have to be in order to make investments or purchase stuff based on a celebrity endorsement. Realistically someone somewhere is going to scam them out of there money sooner or later. But I guess protecting the mentally challenged is something as a society we do have to do, just hard to fathom how many there are.

    8. Re:fraud by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      I'm certain it was all the other celebrities pumping "BUY GOLD" that complained. More seriously, doesn't the SEC have better things to do than go after a tiny $100k endorsement? I'm no fan of either of these guys, but I highly doubt that they were aware they (or their staff) were doing anything wrong. I'm sure someone wants to "set an example", or figures they're going to get promoted for taking down these bad guys.

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    9. Re: fraud by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      The guy is worth north of 100 million.

      By winning a couple boxing matches and now only fighting people past their prime (Pacquiao) or aren't even boxers at all (McGregor). He won't fight a credible, formidable opponents anymore.

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    10. Re:fraud by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I don't know what is wrong with America that allows this kind of advertising strategy to work, but it might very well be the central problem in America at the moment.

      It's a terrible education system that doesn't teach critical thinking, because its primary purpose is to produce low-information voters.

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    11. Re:fraud by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I bought into this shitcoin, substantially because I thought Floyd Mayweather had a PhD in economics.

      No, wait, nobody ever thought such a thing - this was obviously just an advertising gimmick to get the brand out in front of as many eyeballs as possible.

      A reasonable judge would tell the plaintiffs, "get the hell out of my courtroom."

      Anybody who invested based off Mayweather or Kalid's endorsement without doing any due diligence, is just as likely to lose everything in the lottery next week. Obvious advertising is bloody obvious .

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    12. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Except that, you're both the elitist telling people how it works, and the dunce that isn't qualified to give the advice.

      Mayweather isn't qualified because he didn't file paperwork to become registered. Nobody cares if you get punched in the head, for a living or as a hobby. Lots of MMA fighters have day jobs in an office, presumably boxers too.

    13. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Hey there Dilly Bar! Did it cross your little mind that they might be trying to regulate the use of cryptocoins as securities and that that industry is larger than $100K? Or did you fail to notice that the SEC is also going after the coin itself as being fraudulent?

      You're one of these dummies who wants people to think you actually believe that the SEC was going after Floyd Mayweather for being a celebrity? As if they were investigating him personally. When obviously, they were investigating a fraudulent ICO that actually happened and actually ripped people off and in the course of that investigation, they found that some famous people were using that fame to illegally promote these offerings, even though they're not registered with the SEC at all, and should not be selling securities.

      Next I'm sure you'll be defending quack doctors who harmed people, and fake lawyers who got people sent to prison.

    14. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I don't know what is wrong with America that allows this kind of advertising strategy to work, but it might very well be the central problem in America at the moment.

      It's a terrible education system that doesn't teach critical thinking, because its primary purpose is to produce low-information voters.

      If you thought that was a primary purpose you really underestimated the need for child care in this country. Or the need for factory workers to (finally, please) learn how to read weights and measures.

    15. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      He's a rich guy. People assume he paid a financial adviser whose clients are normally rich guys. That would be somebody good, right?

      Why would some middle-class nincompoop presume that he could go hire a budget financial adviser and get better advice than he'd get if he could listen in on the advice a rich guy got?

      There is not actually any good reason other than fraud not to put Mayweather's advice above the other low-quality investment advice people can get without taking the time to actually understand the economics themselves. So that's the whole problem; not that Mayweather was the source of the advice, but that it was false that he was giving real advice; he was actually just lying about having some legit financial advice to pass on. That's the point of regulating the industry! To keep people who are actually working as a paid actor from giving you financial advice.

    16. Re:fraud by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Hey there Brain Fart. Did you actually read what I wrote, or are you that fucking stupid that you can't tell I said nothing about them going after the crypto-cons. Sheesh. Get a life and stop trolling peoples posts.

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    17. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Right. You didn't talk about cryptocoins. The story is about that.

      See this page of comments? Did you ever wonder why the comments come in pages? Did you ever wonder why they have different words at the top?

    18. Re:fraud by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Wow you are really bad at trolling aren't you. My response is to the OP and the title of the article, which in spite of your lack of literacy is about the individuals. Get a life.

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    19. Re:fraud by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You've got some... no, on your chin

  2. Make $XXm, get fined $XXk by melted · · Score: 1

    Make $XXm, get fined $XXk. Seems like a good deal to me.

    1. Re:Make $XXm, get fined $XXk by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      They've been ordered to pay back the money they were paid, with interest, in addition to the fines.

    2. Re:Make $XXm, get fined $XXk by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      If the deal goes belly up and the hide being paid, they should be made liable for losses, just like a partnership, they keep going through all their money, as they bankrupt each, more debt accumulates the last players, until all the losses have been made up. No paybacks, no fines, first priority, make good the losses of the people scammed, once that is done and if they are not bankrupt yet, then fine them, basically their debt should be unlimited right up to bankruptcy, until losses are made good, no that will truly scare the crap out of scammers.

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  3. I decided not to go with Mayweather et al by bobstreo · · Score: 2

    Instead, I chose to go with my Nigerian Prince Crypto-Currancy blockchain based on the email notification of the inheritance of 20 Million Naira. /s

  4. Well. There are non-fraud ICOs. by gweihir · · Score: 3, Informative

    But they are few and far in between and even those are decidedly high-risk. The basic problem is that in a business-context, the blockchain does not solve a new problem, but a solved one. It does it with a bit different characteristics, but so far it seems not really that much better. Take, for example, a bank-to-bank money transfer. This is today either done via an intermediate exchange or based on a direct agreement between the two banks. The exchange charges something (not a lot, a transfer of unlimited amount is something like less than 0.01 cent in Europe if you have volume), and some banks want to get rid of the exchange, but really the most of the work the exchange does is to offer a technical interface to the clients so they do not have to arrange for one with each other bank they do business with. That is not enough to justify going to a blockchain solution. But what about being able to prove the transfer later? Banks already need to have revision-proof storage for that. Hence both source and target bank can already prove the transfer happened and cannot claim it did not. The blockchain adds absolutely nothing here.

    As it turns out, that pretty much eliminates the "currency" use, except for the case were you want anonymity. But most blockchain-tech does not actually give you that in actual reality. Monero, as a specialty niche solution, does and that is why it may have an actual valid use-case, but only if it eventually gets its volatility under control. As the cryptocurrency-craze very much banks on people that try to get rich, that means speculation and volatility, again making that "currency" actually useless as a currency. What is left? Supply-chain management? Revision-proof storage still has an edge there. Anything else? Not really.

    So this is it basically, except for a few special scenarios, but only ones were volatility and speculation is a severe problem. Hence in general, there is nothing but speculation in here and that invites fraud. The typical ICO is basically a pyramid-scheme and these are illegal for a reason. The disclosure requirements are there for the same reason. And violating them is at the very least preparation for fraud.

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    1. Re:Well. There are non-fraud ICOs. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      ICOs are lucky to be low-risk enough to be categorized as "speculative." Be careful using words like "high risk," that is an actual risk category and you might end up with the SEC sniffing around. ;)

      Blockchain adds immutability of a distributed data store. If you're talking about digital currency, that is not nothing. But obviously, it also isn't everything. People who want to do without the source of trust in the center don't really understand why fiat currency has value in the first place. When a digital currency comes along worth trusting, it will be one who has a trusted party at its center. And it will not, therefore, be a cryptocurrency.

      Blockchain does a great job at managing the data store, it just doesn't do anything to manage exchange rates. And crypto adds that, but the management it gives is totally broken and goes in the wrong direction over time. So it is the crypto part that is out of place, not the blockchain part. (Obviously the blockchain itself includes encryption, I'm only talking about the "mining" and "proof of work" parts.)

    2. Re:Well. There are non-fraud ICOs. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      ICOs are lucky to be low-risk enough to be categorized as "speculative." Be careful using words like "high risk," that is an actual risk category and you might end up with the SEC sniffing around. ;)

      The SEC does not concern me. No, not even a bit.

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  5. Very 2018 headline by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    DJ Khaled getting busted for cryptocurrency is one of those stories that we'll look back on someday and laugh. I mean, it's probably not a laughing matter for DJ Khaled, but it's pretty funny and really a slice of life in 2018.

    But Ludacris' verse on that DJ Khaled song is fire. It's one for the ages.

    Ludacris goin' in on the verse
    Cause I never been defeated and I won't stop now
    Keep your hands up get 'em in the sky for the homies
    That didn't make it and the folks locked down
    I never went no where
    But they saying Luda's back
    Blame it on that Conjure
    The hood call it Luda-Yac
    And I'm on this foolish track, so I spit my foolish flow
    My hands go up and down like strippers booty's go
    My verses still be serving, tight like a million virgins
    Last time on a Khaled remix, now I'm on the original version
    Can't never count me out
    Y'all better count me in
    Got twenty bank accounts, accountants count me in
    Make millions every year, the south's champion
    Cause all I do, all I, all I, all I
    All I do is

    https://youtu.be/GGXzlRoNtHU

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    1. Re: Very 2018 headline by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      That is what you call "fire"? SMH.

      I was being sarcastic.

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  6. Re:Not so bad considering! by gweihir · · Score: 3, Informative

    You seem to have slept though the classes where they explained "separation of powers". Trump cannot send anybody to prison and for good reasons. Or are you advocating for making the US a fascist nation were separation of powers gets abolished?

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  7. Re:Why worry about this by Narcocide · · Score: 2

    I'm sorry you live in the middle of nowhere and 5,000 people sounds like a full-scale invasion to you, but there's dozens of millions of people on this side of that border. 5,000 isn't even a particularly large rave, let alone a fucking army. You're hyperventilating over nothing.

  8. Re: Why worry about this by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    When did my narrative shift? Prove it.

  9. Re: Not so bad considering! by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Fascinating. It is rare to run into a truly evil person these days. You qualify. I hope you at least have fun being evil, because if there is any sort of performance review after this life, you are soooo screwed....

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  10. Re:Not so bad considering! by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Can't wait for Trump to put all those libtards in federal prison San Quentin

    As a conservative, let me just say what an asshole you are.

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  11. Re:Not so bad considering! by 605dave · · Score: 1

    As a liberal, thank you for saying that for me.

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  12. Re:Not so bad considering! by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    You're welcome. Extremists like this jackass need to be called out. And we all should stop demonizing people on the other side just because we have differences of opinions. The vast majority of us have family members on opposing sides. Do we really hate them?

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  13. Another day, another blockchain scam by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

    Will people ever learn? No, probably not.

  14. Re:Why worry about this by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    There are well over 50,000 illegal crossings per month normally. The only reason anybody can even notice this group is that they're too poor to pay smugglers, and too bedraggled to run around looking for spots to sneak through. And many are running from gangs, so they're scared to even attempt to access the information networks that would tell them where to go.

    When people attempt to rush an international border in a group, most countries are going to shoot them. A Buddhist country would shoot them for sure. OTOH, this particular group of people is neither large, nor threatening; OTOH, they're behaving in a maladaptive way currently. But if they were able to figure out their situation, they would already not be in as bad a situation. There will always be the most ignorant, the most bedraggled, the least deserving.

    A lot of Americans are Christian, but most of them forgot how they're supposed to treat the least deserving. In fact, many of them "forgot" if that was even mentioned in their Bible!

  15. Re: Why worry about this by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    These are people so poor, if you offered them welfare they wouldn't trust you enough to fill out the paperwork.

    The only danger is that they might get arthritis from picking a lot of strawberries because they don't see themselves as important enough to compete for jobs picking beans.

  16. Re: Why worry about this by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    About 50% of the people you would have to include to get numbers that high are not here illegally.

    It is illegal to enter without permission, but visa overstays are not breaking any law. The law says that if their status runs out, the government may send them a letter at any time ordering them to leave. If that never happens, they are "without status" but their presence is not illegal at all.

    If Conservitards could learn about American civics, they could probably make a lot of progress on issues they purport to care about by merely knowing enough about the American Way to participate in reform conversations. Instead, they just shout a lot, and don't make any progress on anything they say they care about. LOL

  17. Re:Not so bad considering! by Cito · · Score: 1

    Antifa and those extremist libtards is who I'm totally against, also hate the extreme tea partiers.

    I'm libertarian so I'm for individualism. So while I agree with everyone who posted in this thread as I believe individuals have right to say whatever the fuck they want. Just as I did. If someone thinks I'm an asshole, I support their opinion 100 percent. If someone hates me or wants me dead I support their opinion 100 percent.

    Individualism will always be better than any form of socialism