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Japan's Final Pager Provider To End Its Service In 2019 (bbc.com)

Tokyo Telemessage, Japan's last pager provider, has announced that it will end service to its 1,500 remaining users in September 2019. It will bring a national end to telecommunication beepers, 50 years after their introduction. The BBC reports: The once-popular devices are able to receive and show wireless messages. Users would then find a phone to call the sender back. Developed in the 1950s and 1960s, they grew in popularity in the 1980s. By 1996, Tokyo Telemessage had 1.2 million subscribers. However, the rise of mobile phones rendered the pager obsolete, and few remain worldwide. Emergency services, however, continue to use the reliable technology -- including in the UK.

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  1. In the US? by SumDog · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised. Are they going out in the US too? I thought E.R. doctors and surgeons would always carry pagers because the messages have guaranteed delivery unlike SMS.

    1. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No. I work as a clinical pharmacist. All the docs and many others, including myself, still carry one. There is no plans to discontinue their use.

    2. Re:In the US? by LordKronos · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's actually quite the opposite. Pagers have no guaranteed delivery, because they are a one way service. The pager does not ever communicate back to the tower (or at least the type most doctors carry don't). If the pager is out of range or has a poor signal at the moment the page is broadcast, you are SOL. On the other hand, SMS will at least hold the message until you connect and then make a best effort to get the message to you.

      The advantage of pagers is that they work successfully off a much weaker signal and have much broader coverage. And even more importantly, a pager runs off a AA battery that is good for months and can be swapped out with an off the shelf battery in a matter of seconds. You can't say that about any phone.

    3. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still use a pager when I'm on call.

    4. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other than my friend who is an ER heart surgeon, I only met one person with a pager, a school cop. Not sure if he still carries it.

    5. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should meet more drug dealers. They carry pagers, but more importantly: they also carry drugs. Between you and me, there's no better way to relax after a tough week at the office than mainlining some H. It's like a full body orgasm that lasts for hours.

    6. Re:In the US? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      They're nowhere near as reliable as people think, they just use different over-the-air channels than cellular does (but often the same backhaul). So if there's a cellular outage and it's an OTA issue then pagers may still work.

      The real issue is that since cellular is used by everyone everywhere, outages get noticed and fixed at top priority while pager outages may not be noticed for awhile and there's less pressure to fix them when they do occur. So given the choice I'd take cellular, because that's the mechanism that gets all the love from its owners.

    7. Re:In the US? by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can get a two-way pager if you want one. There are pagers that just send in the fact that they've received a message, that it was read, or ones that can compose a message and send it in.

      I work for a paging company. Paging is very much a niche product, but a good niche product has always been a license to print money.

      ...laura

    8. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised as well - pagers are really used still? Over here in Finland, they shut down the pager networks at the end of 2001...

      I see many similarities here with Fax-technology, it has not been used here last 15 years either. I guess it is easier to move over to new technologies when the nation is small...?

    9. Re:In the US? by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

      Another advantage is that the pager don't have a transmitter which means that it don't cause interference to EKG and EEG equipment.

      Some services also see it as an advantage to have a pager since the person having it can't be tracked. This is essential for military personnel and special operations personnel of other kinds.

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    10. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However pagers use much lower frequencies than cellular phones down in the 100-400mhz band, unless your pager is dead, turned off, or you live/work in a faraday cage you are pretty much guaranteed to receive it. If you can receive FM radio broadcasts in whatever part of a building it is pretty much a guarantee that the pager signal will be able to reach the pager there too. I believe some paging protocols will resend duplicate messages over some period of time with some kind of checksum. If the pager checks the checksum and see that it has already received the message it just gets discarded.

    11. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      uhh actually quite the opposite. pagers dont use small cells like cellular. They use a much stronger transmitter and probably only a single transmitter for a region(maybe a few for a large metro), think the same way that TV and Radio broadcasts work.

    12. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why pager messages get put on a queue and sent out repeatedly for hours. Instead of having the message sit on a messaging server waiting for the presence database to tell it the handset has become visible on the network.

      The types in use here used much lower frequencies (~150 MHz, IIRC) than mobile phone service does (900 MHz or 1800 MHz for "2G" GSM here in Europe) and so has a much higher penetration. The pager company can get by with far fewer towers than you'd need for GSM, and that requirement only goes up with 3G, 4G, 5G.

      Oh, and you can run your own local infrastructure. Though these days you'd get a bulk rate for SMS instead of paying retail. Actual cost to the operator of SMS is on the order of a dime per 10000 instead of a dime per one, so there's lots of room for bulk price rate reduction.

      Still, the concept of a pager is a sound one, much more resilient than the much more complex mobile phone infrastructure. Though in adverse conditions it doesn't buy you as much as it used to, since mobile phone (voice or data) is just about the only return channel left.

    13. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont think a commercial paging service was ever a thing in AU, but i worked for a company that did site paging for a bit over a year whilst studying electronics. Hospitals, casinos, rural emergencies, site security. Mostly stuff that was triggered by alarms. Crash cart to room 53, rear warehouse door open, jackpot aisle 7 machine 4. Could probably be done by sms, but most of these clients really liked the whole inhouse thing. POCSAG (the protocol used) is totally insecure, but pretty cool. Sends a really long preamble, which is simply *im about to send*, so the receiver only needs to blip on for a short while regularly to see if theres an incoming message, the boot up the cpu n latch on the receiver. The timing is such, the preamble is sure to catch the pager listening. Forget the numbers. Hence the crazy battery life. Excellent job, excellent culture. Friday's lunch was steak n beers (which as a starving student was often the time i tasted such precious things), n that afternoon was not expected to be "cash generating". Paperwork, documentation, cleaning building/calibrating/improving test jigs, screwing around with the hardware to make it do weird things in fringe situations, personal development (writing silly programs to send around). All the shit you want to do in the week, but dont have time for. Heres 4 hours. Do some stuff, no pressure. Documentation was always great, test kit always silky smooth, knew every way to break our gear, n even the secretary could code enough to add an in-joke to whatever silly thing was floating around. N everyone left chill as. Not exactly printing money, but definitely some leeway.

      Still mess with them a bit, my 2m beacon can be a 25w pocsag transmitter. Dont do anything useful with it, but like most ham projects, the fun is the doing it, rather than purpose.

      Pagers, good times, good times

    14. Re:In the US? by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

      It's actually quite the opposite. Pagers have no guaranteed delivery, because they are a one way service. The pager does not ever communicate back to the tower (or at least the type most doctors carry don't). If the pager is out of range or has a poor signal at the moment the page is broadcast, you are SOL. On the other hand, SMS will at least hold the message until you connect and then make a best effort to get the message to you.

      This is quite right. I see below that someone posted that there are 2 way pagers, which I suppose is fine to let people know that you got a page, but since paging does not use guaranteed delivery, a 2 way pager isn't a complete fix for that. The lack of guaranteed delivery is what finally got my (at the time) department manager to stop using the pager and move to calling mobile phones. We had a few instances where the only notification of a problem was via our on call pager and the on call person didn't get the page and a problem wasn't dealt with for hours.

    15. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can have a sms-capable phone that runs of AA batteries - but most people wants a smartphone instead. One with a color touchscreen

    16. Re:In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Require a confirmation callback. No callback in x minutes, page again. No callback the second time, try with the next person on the oncall list.

    17. Re: In the US? by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Ha. Ha. Someone on a tech site who thinks the DNC was hacked? Riight.

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    18. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two way pagers have guaranteed delivery, and the ability to respond to messages. One way pagers which are cheaper and more common do not.

    19. Re: In the US? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wide area paging systems use subcarriers on fm broadcast radio stations that are interlinked by satellite. It is very robust. Local paging services use small numbers of high powered transmitters.

    20. Re:In the US? by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Hospitals are variable.

      At an academic hospital that trains residents, pagers are quite common as the frequent personnel rotations make it a lot harder to keep good phone lists, and the wide variety of origins (and thus area codes) means that hospital lines limited to local calls only won't be able to reach them. You can hand off a pager, so that there's only one number to remember when you need the anesthesiologist on call, or a respiratory therapist who's actually in the hospital.

      In a private hospital, you'll still see some handed-off pagers (like that respiratory therapist), but the doctors won't carry them; they'll all be reached by phone. ER doctors basically never carried them; if they're on-duty, they have to be in the ER (unless it's a quick run to the cafeteria or doctor's lounge for a snack), and they don't really take call - they have to have someone in house 24/7. Where I trained, the ER doctors' pagers were mostly used among themselves to send text jokes to each other (we had alphanumeric paging with a web interface).

      The real advantage of pagers was, as others have noted, that they would last a month or two on a single AA battery, and that they had excellent penetration of walls (and the ability for the hospital to install repeater equipment fairly inexpensively). If you were a big enough client, they would allow you to program your own - so if someone accidentally dropped their pager in a toilet, the telecom people at the hospital could immediately reconfigure a new one to the same number. It took until WiFi Calling became prevalent for there to be a decent alternative when you're in the bowels of the hospital.

    21. Re:In the US? by Koutarou · · Score: 1

      Not guaranteed, just orders of magnitude more reliable in places with shoddy mobile phone reception.

      I'm in Japan and carried a pager until about 10 years ago when the major carrier shut down their service. Within the first month our on-call people missed multiple pages due to signal-related issues.

  2. Used to flood call with pagers. by Blaede · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Pager companies would buy sequential blocks of numbers. So if I number xxx-xxx5 was a pager, good chance xxx-xxx4 and xxx-xxx6 were pagers too.

    So I would these pagers, and enter the number of my target. All these pager owners would then call my target, who was mystified.

    I came up with this when one day I dialed wrong, and a minute later the chick's insecure boyfriend *69 me back telling me not to ever call her. So I had about 20 guys call the number.

    I wonder what ever happened. Maybe he killed the girlfriend in a jealous rage? Ed will never know.

    1. Re:Used to flood call with pagers. by slashdice · · Score: 4, Funny

      WTF? He tracked you down and instead of kicking your ass, had oral sex with you... then told you to never call his girlfriend again? That's totally fucked up.

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    2. Re:Used to flood call with pagers. by Calydor · · Score: 1

      *69 is a phone code to dial back the last number to have called.

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    3. Re:Used to flood call with pagers. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      *69 is a phone code to dial back the last number to have called.

      Thinking about it now I feel like that star code choice is not an accident.
      *69 -- giving back what you just received orally.

    4. Re: Used to flood call with pagers. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's aural sex, not oral sex.

  3. i remember in ~1997 or so by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i remember in ~1997 or so, an older sysadmin friend of mine (though still much younger then than i am now...) was showing off his alphapage and how he could even read emails with it. even among the nerds, not everyone had an email address back then; being able to read them wirelessly seemed like magic.

    nowadays it's mostly a nuisance, and to him it also probably was, most of the time. c'est la vie, plus ça change, and all that. i suppose i should be comforted that slashdot will never have unicode support.

  4. Page of revenge.. by xanadu113 · · Score: 1

    I miss the days when you could set your modem to dial every phone number in a paging prefix, and punch in a single persons' phone number. You could tell how well it was working by calling them up a few hours later and asking, "Hey did somebody page from this number?"

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    1. Re:Page of revenge.. by PPH · · Score: 2

      Not that. But when I carried a pager for manufacturing support, I'd have a cron job dial my pager with a factory number and append 9-1-1. Set it to call about 10 minutes into what was going to be a very long and boring staff meeting.

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  5. Fake pagers by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    Does anyone remember fake pagers? If you were stuck in a meeting or some other uncomfortable situation like a wedding or a funeral, you could surreptitiously push the button on your "pager", and a minute later it starts beeping. Then you can pull it off the belt clip, pretend to look at the call back number, and then frantically run out while everyone assumes you must be somebody important.

    With cell phones, you can no longer get out of meetings, but at least you can play Tetris while the boss drones on and on.

    1. Re:Fake pagers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure you can, send an SMS to a reliable friend and ask them to call you in a minute or so

    2. Re:Fake pagers by jwhyche · · Score: 5, Interesting

      With cell phones, you can no longer get out of meetings, but at least you can play Tetris while the boss drones on and on.

      When I got my first smart phone I loaded a app called fake me out of here. I could give my phone a quick shake and a few minutes later it would ring like I had a incoming call. I used this app to get me out of conversations and meetings that I didn't want to be in. Checking google, I see there are several apps that do just that.

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    3. Re:Fake pagers by Isaac-Lew · · Score: 1

      Schedule an at job for 5 minutes after the meeting starts to send an email (which your smartphone should receive) with the subject "SERVER DOWN" or something else that sounds important.

  6. Pages go out unencrypted by bubblegoose · · Score: 1

    I work in Healthcare, and they still love pagers here. I've been trying to get our security team to push to eliminate them, as they sent out in the clear.

    From this article, following the release of pager records for 9/11.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/e...
    Each digital pager is assigned a unique Channel Access Protocol code, or capcode, that tells it to pay attention to what immediately follows. In what amounts to a gentlemen's agreement, no encryption is used, and properly-designed pagers politely ignore what's not addressed to them.

    But an electronic snoop lacking that same sense of etiquette might hook up a sufficiently sophisticated scanner to a Windows computer with lots of disk space -- and record, without much effort, gobs and gobs of over-the-air conversations.

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  7. Volunteer firefighter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Volunteer firefighter, small rural town in NH - we still use pagers, as do pretty much all of the towns around us. In fact, we just upgraded our pagers from low band (3X.XXMHz) to high band (3XX.XX MHz) to improve coverage. We expect to be using pagers for decades to come. There is a phone app called "I Am Responding" which uses SMS text messages to alert firefighters, who then reply that they are responding. This information shows up on a screen in the fire station, so if you're in a truck waiting on the tarmac you can tell if waiting another 3 minutes gets you more crew, or if you're better off rolling with what you have and letting late stragglers take another truck. For a system set up on text messages, it seems remarkably unreliable. Sometimes I never get the text, sometimes it comes ten minutes later. I don't believe that problem is in the texting mechanism, so it must have something to do with how dispatch is triggering the text.

    1. Re: Volunteer firefighter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For $10 per year for the entire department, I am Responding will give you a phone number that each of you members can call and enter their 2-3 digit member number to show that theyâ(TM)re responding to a call-out. Most members just put that in a speed-dial with a couple pauses in between the phone number and their member number.

      Many of our local departments departments (Milwaukee suburbs) use IaR with this feature. Combined with still carrying their VHF or UHF pagers to receive the call-outs, this increases the reliability dramatically, both for the members getting the call-out and for the dispatcher and station monitor showing who is responding.

  8. Pagers and McDonald's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember back in the '80s when I had a pager, we found out that the sound it made when it went off was exactly what McDonald's used to tell them their fries were ready. When we walked it, we'd go to the payphone (remember those? There were no cell phones in common use) and page ourselves, In a minute or so, the pager would go off, and Fred would go pull up the fries, which weren't quite done. Then each of your other pals you'd met for lunch would do the same thing, and the crew was constantly checking for done fries. Yeah, stupid, but sometimes stupid is funny.

  9. Classified spaces by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One way pagers are still (generally) allowed in classified spaces. They are necessary for people that need to be reached, but can't carry a phone or other electronic 2-way device. Still a niche area, but one that is critical.

  10. Contractural commitements.. by TheHawke · · Score: 1

    The pager companies has an agreement with their clients in their Terms of Service contract to keep the pagers operating unconditionally. This is something the cell companies can not promise for their service. Their wireline services has this agreement as well, signed in stone and painted in blood of the telecoms, with the Fed and State Public Utilities. Also a reason why they are currently playing the shell game with their ILECs, selling them to each other, until the lowest operation on the totem pole (usually Centrylink or Frontier, heaven forbid) procures them and can't foist them off on anyone else. Woe to the poor bastards that require wireline or pagers for their service and the telecoms in that given area cannot furnish.

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  11. Re:They use Slack now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which slack using faggot come in here and modded you down? Those fucking slack faggots.

  12. Replaced with newer techology by hoofie · · Score: 1

    I was recently involved in the building of a new Children's Hospital. There are mobile phone repeater antennas all over the building and lots of Wi-Fi. There is a system called Vocera which is used more and more. Clinical staff either have a Vocera Handset [which replaces the Pager]; use a ruggedised phone with the Vocera App [it supports a type of messaging] or a normal mobile phone.

    There was a small pager system as well but it was there to support existing pagers until they were replaced.

  13. But what about John Titor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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