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Net Neutrality Bill 38 Votes Short In Congress, and Time Has Almost Run Out (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Legislation to restore net neutrality rules now has 180 supporters in the U.S. House of Representatives, but that's 38 votes short of the amount needed before the end of the month. The Congressional Review Act (CRA) resolution, already approved by the Senate, would reverse the Federal Communications Commission's repeal of net neutrality rules. But 218 signatures from U.S. representatives (a majority) are needed to force a full vote in the House before Congress adjourns at the end of the year.

Net neutrality advocates previously said they needed 218 signatures by December 10 to force a vote. But an extension of Congress' session provided a little more time. "[Now that the Congressional session has officially been extended, members of Congress could be in town as late as December 21st," net neutrality advocacy group Fight for the Future wrote yesterday. "This means we have until the end of the year to get as many lawmakers as possible signed on to restore net neutrality."
A discharge petition that would force a vote on the CRA resolution gained three new supports in the past two weeks, but even if all Democrats were on board it still wouldn't be enough to force a vote. Republicans have a 236-197 House majority, and only one House Republican has signed the petition.

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  1. Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by bit+trollent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except that Democrats are overwhelmingly in favor of Net Neutrality, while republicans are 99% opposed.

    Hmm it's almost like there is a clear difference between the parties an a critical issue at impacts all of us.

    You might even say that the bothsiderism that people who are stupid or intellectually dishonest constantly engage in is absolute fraudulent nonsense.

    1. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by bit+trollent · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If by that you mean that I am able to correctly differentiate between the politicians looking out for our interest and the politicians who seek to destroy our internet, our country, and the concept of basic decency - then yes I have fallen into that trap.

      Perhaps you should try a little basic observation combined with critical thinking sometime.

      Unless you still haven't gotten bored of erroneously saying "both sides are bad"...

    2. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's great. It worked out for you this time. Too bad next time the lobbyists will tell them to do something else that isn't quite in your favor. The only reason NN is even an issue in DC is because there is lobbyist money involved. Do you think the idiots there even know what NN means?

    3. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yeah, or they could send young Americans to fight in endless wars overseas. Or authorize mass surveillance. The Democrats have as much blood on their hands as "the other team". The idea that Democrats are fighting for affordable healthcare is a complete joke. Healthcare is more expensive than ever and the lobbyists made sure that happened.

    4. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit. Both parties were on board with Iraq, including Clinton. And we are still there and in Afghanistan. Democrats were on board with that one too. I can't believe anyone is this naive in 2018.

    5. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      You have fallen in the trap that "The other team is bad" but "My team is good". No wonder this country is do f'd up with people like you voting.

      Imagined moral equivalence is a far worse trap.

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    6. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by SirAstral · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fraudulent nonsense is on you. Both are terrible, just because they have different rhetoric and ways of acting out that corruption does not change the end result that corruption is end to end, party before country, constant lies and deceit, dancing around the issues, backroom deals, rushing votes on recently changed bills, pork, omnibus, budget, gerrymandering, filibusters, taking bribes, lobbyists over citizens, fear mongering, and a general disconnect with reality BOTH FUCKING SIDES!!! People like you are easy to fool. I could rob you and make you love me for it, all I have to do is tell you it was those other guys over there! It's that simple... that is how politicians play the game, regardless of side and that is how YOU get pulled into thinking that one sides is more noble or cares about you more. They are the rich elite and you are the poor serf. They are smart and you are dumb... by the pure virtue that they are ruling over you! If you were so smart then you too would be able to game the system and put these idiots in the place and show them to be the fools they obviously are right?

      NN has loopholes built into it... yea I can hear it now... It's better than nothing. So what? That's the bait that you just bit sucker! When NN was in effect I saw no difference in my speeds, bandwidth limits. I did not see a change in exclusive content, I still saw Netflix getting throttled, I still saw the news reports where ISP kept fucking people over.

      The NN fight is the same as this stupid joke.

      To find out how to keep an idiot busy, turn this over...
      *turns over*
      To find out how to keep an idiot busy, turn this over...

      Please... keep turning the rock over... regulations gave the ISP's monopoly power starting with the creation of the FCC. The FCC is on record as stating they will regulate them as monopolies and they didn't even have to.

      Charles Reese was on target here..

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-ch...
      "Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them." ...
      "Don't you see the con game that is played on the people by the politicians? Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party." ...
      "Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees."

      And you don't have the gumption because you have been fooled (by a politician) into thinking 1/2 of the country wants you marginalized, enslaved, silenced, or killed.

    7. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you think one team is more moral than the other one then I don't know what to say to you.

      Don't bother. It's not even politics or morality. The tribalism around here is positively pathological. I'm convinced that the democrat supporters have it even worse than the republicans. They have to support a forked tongue party that has to play to both sides just to stay conveniently even.

    8. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Too bad next time the lobbyists will tell them to do something else that isn't quite in your favor.

      There are some legislators in Congress who do not take PAC, corporate or lobbyist money.

      Go see which party they're all from. Look it up. I'll wait right here.

      You have to be careful when claiming a moral equivalence when the article itself is evidence that there is no moral equivalence. Things change in two weeks. Maybe reserve judgement for a little while.

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    9. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gerrymandering and a general disconnect from reality are Republican hallmarks in particular. Democrats at least pay lip service to reality, and gerrymandering is overwhelmingly a Republican-dominated activity. It's not that no Democrats have ever gerrymandered, but throughout our history they have done a lot less and and in recent years it's been all but 100% Republican.

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    10. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by Shaitan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "saving thousands of American lives with access to healthcare"

      You seem to be conflating insurance with healthcare. The only way this is helping is to allow people to get through the usual "do you have insurance" screen doctors use to determine whether people are likely to be able to pay the bill. Afterward they still get a bill and that bill is anywhere from 2-10x higher than before the "affordable care act".

      Before the affordable care act my employer provided free insurance to everyone on the payroll. There was a $1500 deductible and afterward most things were covered 100% while a few categories were 90%. $5 prescriptions which started immediately not after deductible. Since the affordable care act that is a $6500 deductible before ANYTHING is covered including prescriptions, afterward 80% covered, and it costs me about $1200/month.

      I had to go to the ER once and get stitches in the days without coverage. The bill was $200 and I was outraged there was ONE bill, from the hospital. My little brother went in with chronic stomach issues that meant he hadn't eaten in two weeks, they performed no tests, told him it was a thing they were starting to see and had no treatment. Subsequently, he was sent over $15,000 in bills from various parties, the hospital charges you, the doctor double charges you, etc.

      If you actually think the affordable care act is a good thing you've lost your damn mind. We could have public healthcare, we could have private healthcare, but this half assed measured is definitely much worse than a serious effort at either system.

    11. Re:Both sides are bad... Oh wait.. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except that Democrats are overwhelmingly in favor of Net Neutrality, while republicans are 99% opposed.
      Hmm it's almost like there is a clear difference between the parties an a critical issue at impacts all of us.

      If it passed the Senate, which the summary says it did, then it had at least two Republican Senators to support it

      So, your sick burn is that it's not 99% of Republicans, but 96%?

      Also, please understand that the Senate voting records are pretty noisy, because of the small sample size. The House commonly has the same number (or fewer) dissenters with a larger pool of voters.

      Also, in fairness, it was 94%. Three Republicans voted for it. And the Democrats were 100% in favor of it. If you cannot tell the difference between Party D, 100% in support, and Party R, 6% in support, I cannot help you.

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  2. Domocrats support NN, Republicans oppose by bit+trollent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, lets see, almost all votes for NN are from Democrats, including centrist democrats. Only one single republican supports this legislation.

    So when you say to vote out the Clinton democrats you are telling us to vote out the people who actually signed their name to this legislation, while fail to even acknowledge that the republican party is 99% against net neutrality.

    This ridiculous claim that both sides are at fault when one is at fault while the other works to protect us is the exact reason that our country is in the mess we are in.

    I hope Bernie Sanders gets last place in the primary, tied with some other sore loser who can't tell the difference between his allies and his adversaries.

  3. Re:Good news for people with a brain. by bit+trollent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ah yes, we shouldn't forget about the freedom of our local cable monopoly to block or curtail access to the services that make the internet what it is.

  4. Re:Wrong by Powercntrl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Republicans favor the Net Neutrality we have today.

    Yeah, it's so fucking awesome to have a single choice of broadband provider, one which now has carte blanche to implement whatever means they deem necessary to squeeze more profit out of a market they've monopolized.

    Government regulation is not the best solution, but voting for regulation is all that remains when voting with your wallet is not an option. The fault is not with those of us who were forced into a corner and vote "left". The fault lies with businesses who have chosen not to play fairly at the game of capitalism. We're simply demanding they be held accountable.

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  5. Still don't get it by Texmaize · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I sincerely do not understand slashdot's near religious devotion to this. I honestly want to understand what I am missing. As I understand it, net neutrality basically says that you do not want to have the cost of your internet usage be proportional to how much you use. It does not seem wrong to me that if you use a ton, pay more or get throttled. Otherwise, someone else is paying the bill for your usage.



    So, am I off or is this just a case of millennial wanting free stuff?

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  6. Re: Well, you fail a basic IQ test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Please stop confounding NN with content creators like Facebook. NN is about the transport layer, not the content. Treat all content equally, blindly. If it's possible to stream X mb/s from Netflix, don't throttle it to 1 mb/s to upsell your own competing content.

    NN also means that all sites on the internet are reachable. ISPs should not be curating the internet nor deciding what's best for you.