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The Last Independent Mobile OS (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Motherboard: The year was 2010 and the future of mobile computing was looking bright. The iPhone was barely three years old, Google's Android had yet to swallow the smartphone market whole, and half a dozen alternative mobile operating systems -- many of which were devoutly open source -- were preparing for launch. Eight years on, you probably haven't even heard of most of these alternative mobile operating systems, much less use them. Today, Android and iOS dominate the global smartphone market and account for 99.9 percent of mobile operating systems. Even Microsoft and Blackberry, longtime players in the mobile space with massive revenue streams, have all but left the space. Then there's Jolla, the small Finnish tech company behind Sailfish OS, which it bills as the "last independent alternative mobile operating system." Jolla has had to walk itself back from the edge of destruction several times over the course of its seven year existence, and each time it has emerged battered, but more determined than ever to carve out a spot in the world for a truly independent, open source mobile operating system.

Jolla's Sailfish OS rose from the ashes of Nokia and Intel's ill-fated collaboration, MeeGo. The MeeGo project launched in 2010 in an attempt to merge Intel's Linux-based Moblin OS and Nokia's Maemo software platform into a single open-source mobile operating system that could take on Google. By 2011, Android had already surpassed Nokia in the smartphone market, a fact that wasn't lost on Nokia's CEO Stephen Elop, who in a memo described the company as standing on a "burning platform." Nokia only ever released one phone running MeeGo: the Nokia N9, which ended up being well received despite its limited release. But it was too little, too late. By 2011, Nokia was bleeding talent and it was clear that MeeGo wasn't going to keep the company competitive in the rapidly changing smartphone market. In a last-ditch effort, Nokia struck a partnership with Microsoft to provide the hardware for its next generation of Windows Phones, abandoning MeeGo entirely. The same couldn't be said for those developers who had worked on MeeGo and, before that, an open source mobile OS called Mer, based on Intel's Maemo system. In October 2011, three developers that had worked on Mer sent a message on a mailing list calling for the creation of a "MeeGo 2.0." At the same time, developer Sami Pienimaki and two others left Nokia to found their own company, which would use this new version of MeeGo as the basis for an open source mobile OS. And thus, Sailfish was born. In a cheeky homage to the "burning platform" memo, Pienimaki and his fellow defectors decided to name their company Jolla, a Finnish word connoting a small boat or life raft.
Jolla has since turned to Russia and China, both of which were hungry for a secure alternative to Google-based systems. In late 2016, Sailfish OS achieved domestic certification in Russia for government and corporate us. Around the same time, Sailfish was also making moves in China. In early 2017, the Sailfish China Consortium gained the exclusive rights and license to develop a Chinese OS based on Sailfish.

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  1. The First Independent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An anonymous reader quotes a report from Slashdot:

    French toast, m'ladies

    (tips stovepipe hat knowingly)

    1. Re: The First Independent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another day another story about an OS

    2. Re: The First Independent Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still not as many new OS news as there are here's the latest and greatest Java frameworks which are relevant/the framework to end all frameworks of a year if they are lucky

  2. definitely not the last one ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... what about UBports, Plasma Mobile, ...
    SailfishOS might be the last major-company-independent commercial mobile OS not more not less ...

    1. Re:definitely not the last one ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

      Enjoying UBports right now on my phone!

    2. Re:definitely not the last one ... by jonwil · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is also the Leste project which takes Devuan Ascii (i.e. Debian without Systemd) and merges it with bits of the old Maemo and Meego platform stuff. Right now it can run (to varying degrees) on the Nokia N900, Nokia N9, Nokia N950, Motorola Droid 4, Raspberry Pi and a few other things.

  3. The same can be said for other technolgies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What will happen when Mozilla's Gecko and Non SystemD distros become extinct. A ChromesystemD world is not what we want.

    1. Re:The same can be said for other technolgies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The same can be said for your damn politics! You end up with two parties (with the same 99%, by the way), and you hate them both. Of course like the tribal savages you all are, you argue that the one you personally pick is "better" than the other. The market (and democracy) is stupid. It can't pick a good product. Even here it's lizards all the way down.

  4. Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rogue One was better than The Last Independent Mobile OS.

  5. And no OS for you Americans by MikeRT · · Score: 1

    Still no way to directly buy Sailfish X if you're American. According to all of my googling, you still have to access through a VPN.

    Would love to know the logic of turning us down, but embracing Russia and China where there is nowhere near enough disposable income for people to buy a second phone and an OS license just to try it out.

    1. Re:And no OS for you Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My understanding is that it's because they don't want to/can't afford to go through the licensing and regulatory hoops to sell to americans. Buying via VPN works totally fine though, once you have the initial image you don't need it for anything else, OTA updates are fine, store is fine, etc.

    2. Re:And no OS for you Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The logic is two words:

      Steven Elop

  6. What a bunch of revisionist crap. by cheesybagel · · Score: 4, Informative

    At the time of Elop's "burning platforms memo" Android was not outselling the Nokia platforms at the time which included Symbian based smartphones. Yes it was outselling the predecessor to MeeGo, which was only available in like a single model which was ludicrously expensive and available in limited quantities. He basically Osborned their whole lineup with that move.

    Add to that that they moved to a version of Windows Phone which was totally incompatible with previous Windows Mobile applications, and those applications were themselves incompatible with the next version of Windows Phone which came out a year or two later and you have a recipe for disaster.

    1. Re:What a bunch of revisionist crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      RIP Windows Phone. I hated CE, etc, but I was very happy with the latest Windows phone, but I guess the damage had been done already and it got zero adoption.

  7. Just to set the record straight by Ecuador · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just to set the record straight. The Nokia N9 was not "too little too late" and Stephen Elop's "burning platform" email was not some rational realization, but rather either the most blatant corporate assassination or greatest corporate blunder.
    Nokia did have some serious problems because they had 2 competing factions - the established Symbian group and the Maemo/Meego group. The competition was not doing good, especially for the Maemo side (caused many delays), but at least there was finally a plan that did not alienate app developers: Symbian devs could switch to QT apps, a framework also good for Maemo/Meego.
    When Stephen Elop took over, the first consumer Maemo/Meego phone was being prepared (its Maemo predecessor - the N900 was great for devs, pro users etc but not really a consumer phone). What he does, is he sends that notorious memo which alienates all loyal Nokia 3rd party app developers (Nokia still had a vibrant ecosystem) and then he buries Maemo/Meego by declaring a switch to Windoes Mobile. The reasoning he gave for switching away from Meego was that they would only be able to release one new Meego phone per year with the existing strategy, and he claimed that was not viable. Apart from doubting the fact they would not be able to develop more phones, I would like to ask the audience whether they know of another major company that would only release one smartphone per year (at least until recently) and how is that company doing currently?
    Elop's problem with his "plan" however was that the N9 with Meego was AMAZING. And since they were already ready for production he had to allow for an initial small run. What he did though, was make sure they were sold only in very minor (even 3rd world where possible) markets. Mine was an import from Romania. I gave it to my non-techie wife to play around with it. She said "wow, compared to your iPhone 4, this looks like it came from 2025". Not being VM based like Android, it was as fluid as the iPhone, but without the imposed limitations of iOS you could do anything on it. For geeks, apart from the native apps you also had a full linux machine, but for non-Geeks the OS interface was where it excelled - I don't like buttonless normally, but the N9 "swipe" interface was the right way to implement it, with very fast and easy switching between apps etc. Due to the very limited availability it got very few reviews in major press - but whoever reviewed it was very impressed.
    I had both an iOS, and Android and Meego at the time and the latter was clearly superior - if Nokia dedicated to it we would probably be enjoying much better smartphones right now. I know the saying "do not attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity", but it does seem more likely that Elop went from Microsoft to Nokia with the plan to make it worthless so that Microsoft can buy it to do their Windows Mobile experiment, with himself returning victoriously. That's the only explanation for both not producing the N9 in quantity, and also doing that memo that burned bridges (alienating the most important people - developers) before there was any alternative.
    Anyway, I do hope Sailfish makes it, although I have not tried it so I don't know if the interface is as good as the N9 was with its "swipe" interface. But I consider both iOS and Android flawed for different reasons (I currently prefer Android on a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2) and hope we'll get another option at some point. And I don't mean how you can theoretically get a Sailfish phone now by jumping some hoops, but being able to actually get a flagship phone with the OS installed.

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    1. Re:Just to set the record straight by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

      Nokia had management issues long before the Elop flop. In the early 2000s, Symbian was starting to show its age and limitations, but upper management held on to it and they had to make that hasty Windows decision when it was too late.

      Their first Maemo device was released in 2005, but they didn't have one with cellular connectivity until the N900 in 2009, they were Wifi-only tablets until then. I presume the limitation was partly due to the Symbian management. Around the same time, a small Finnish company (I forget the name) was developing phones/tablets that were even further ahead of their time, and they ended up selling some of their tech to Apple.

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    2. Re: Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 just read his Wikipedia page page, here is what he says about being a Trojan horse:

      "We made sure that the entire management team was involved in the process [...] everyone on the management team believed this was the right decision"

      Right, because when you're doing something shady you need an alibi...

    3. Re:Just to set the record straight by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have never tried the N9, but I can confirm that Sailfish has a swipe-based interface, and I definitely like it. Feels smooth and natural. Unfortunately there aren't many native apps around, so many of the ones I run daily are button-based Android ones (did someone mention already that Jolla phones come with an Android emulator/compatibility layers, so you can run most Android apps?)

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    4. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nokia had management issues long before the Elop flop. In the early 2000s, Symbian was starting to show its age and limitations, but upper management held on to it and they had to make that hasty Windows decision when it was too late.

      Well, no, they did not have to make that hasty Windows decision. As you say, the had their first Maemo phone in 2009 and they were ready to release a mature version with the N9, which would have been a hit if released widely, based on the reviews. There was absolutely no reason at all to go with Windows. I could see some "old school" CEO saying screw this untested new Meego stuff, we'll go with something true/tried, let's go Android, but WTF was the advantage of Windows Mobile, an unsupported, not well received OS?

    5. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, Elop destroyed Nokia with the most disastrous run as a CEO in the history of the Earth and then returned to Microsoft to a hero's welcome. Job done, welcome back!

    6. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elop's problem with his "plan" however was that the N9 with Meego was AMAZING.

      No, it wasn't. It had no application ecosystem and didn't do anything meaningfully better than the incumbents, there was little reason to buy an N9 over an Android or iOS device.

      This is the problem that all competing mobile platforms face, even Windows Phone was a decent operating system, there was nothing really wrong with it but there was nothing particularly disruptive about it either and you can't enter an established market without disruptive features that are compelling to users. You'll find anecdotes about all the various mobile OS competitors of "oh i liked it and i gave it to a friend/relative/pet and they loved it too" but that doesn't translate into any actual disruption because just fiddling around with the operating system is not akin to actually using it on a daily basis.

      Nobody actually wanted to go to a broadly unsupported platform just because it had a swipy interface, we saw the exact same thing with WebOS. "Oh you should use our great new mobile OS that has comparatively no application support because instead of double tapping to do something, you swipe!" Yeah I just can't understand how that neve caught on with any of the dozens of alternative smartphone operating systems or why nobody invested in bringing any of these to market.

    7. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As you say, the had their first Maemo phone in 2009 and they were ready to release a mature version with the N9, which would have been a hit if released widely, based on the reviews.

      How? It wasn't cheaper, it had poor application support and its differentiating feature was just its UI and even the applications that it did have didn't really support that UI and were instead just pseudo button-based UIs. As has been proven many, many times over with the various attempts at desktop Linux operating systems you aren't going to disrupt an established markets with nothing but a new UI paradigm while eschewing application support and this didn't even have cost on its side like desktop Linux does.

      The question you have to ask is: what can the end user do on this that they can't already do on the incumbent platforms?

    8. Re:Just to set the record straight by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Well as a reminder Elop took over in September 2010, the burning platform memo was leaked in February 2011, the N9 was announced in June and delivered in September so it wasn't done yet and Nokia was far from united behind it, they had many non-Meego phones in the plans and kept developing many systems in parallel. The most plausible non-malicious explanation is that Elop thought Nokia's OS development was so dysfunctional and unwilling to change the only solution was to nuke it from orbit. Too bad for him they finally delivered just as he kicked them to the curb, but when he first had picked his horse I can understand why he wouldn't backtrack. We're talking about it now because Windows Phone flopped miserably, if they'd succeeded the N9 would be a little footnote about what could have been.

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    9. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're talking about it now because Windows Phone flopped miserably, if they'd succeeded the N9 would be a little footnote about what could have been.

      It could have just as easily been the other way around, Windows Phone certainly wasn't a bad OS, it just wasn't a particularly compelling OS with new innovative features so people just went with the safe options of iOS or Android, it's the exact same situation with MeeGo and the N9. If Nokia had put all bets on MeeGo it probably would have lasted a little longer than it did but ultimately a lack of compelling, tangible innovation would lead it to the same fate as Windows Phone.

    10. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well as a reminder Elop took over in September 2010, the burning platform memo was leaked in February 2011, the N9 was announced in June and delivered in September so it wasn't done yet and Nokia was far from united behind it, they had many non-Meego phones in the plans and kept developing many systems in parallel. The most plausible non-malicious explanation is that Elop thought Nokia's OS development was so dysfunctional and unwilling to change the only solution was to nuke it from orbit. Too bad for him they finally delivered just as he kicked them to the curb, but when he first had picked his horse I can understand why he wouldn't backtrack. We're talking about it now because Windows Phone flopped miserably, if they'd succeeded the N9 would be a little footnote about what could have been.

      The N9 was delayed to market due to Elop's Nokia backing out. It was already delayed of course because of the internal conflict, so what should have happened is a new CEO clearing up that internal conflict and betting heavy on their, by that time quite mature and very capable platform. Remember, they still had more 3rd party developers than Android, but if they wanted to guarrantee success they could just license a dalvik compatible virtual machine like Alien Dalvik and run Android apps too.

    11. Re:Just to set the record straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UPDATE SEPT 23, 2013 - Three weeks ago it was announced that Nokia will sell its handset unit to Microsoft and Elop will depart Nokia to rejoin Microsoft. Today it emerged that Elop's CEO contract with Nokia included a bonus clause worth $25 Million dollars, if Elop sold the handset unit specifically to Microsoft. Please bear that in mind when you read this blog article. Bear in mind, that Elop's actions are motivated by a personal secret goal, that he will earn 25 million US dollars if he can wreck the Nokia handset business so totally, it is ruined, and will be sold to Microsoft for scrap value.

      https://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/07/the-sun-tzu-of-nokisoftian-microkia-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall-whose-the-baddest-of-them-all-waterloo.html

    12. Re:Just to set the record straight by Echemus · · Score: 2

      One of the key factors in Elop's choice has to be the €200 million to be paid every quarter so called "platform support payments". If your device sales are falling (which Symbian devices were) you are going to grab that lifeline. This more than offset the cost of each operating system license for each Lumia device sold. The N950 and N9 were already majorly delayed, although, that was more about the software rather than the device. The Hardware was ready for market at least a year before the software was, which is why it launched with mid-tier specifications rather than the high-end device it was originally expected to be.

      Whilst I dislike what happened to Nokia and in the end caused me to lose my job there, it isn't all Elop's fault. A lot of the blame has to be laid at the feet of the board of directors. They wanted a new direction and found someone who had the balls or perhaps arrogance to take Nokia there. No Finn would have taken the Microsoft option. No Finn would have likely put Symbian to bed, even though it was beyond saving. The seeds of this also fall on the the head of Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo. An accountant put in charge, sure, he made Nokia incredibly profitable for a bit, but lacked vision and leadership when brave choices needed to be made.

  8. Download SHAREit by DavinaWulaningsih · · Score: 0

    Download SHAREit for Windows 7 32 bit Interesting content. I have a lot of science that I find this web

  9. Revisionist? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What Motherboard writes regarding Nokia and the demise of MeeGo doesn't square with my recollection of what was reported at the time. The prevailing opinion derived from the reported facts then was that Elop's mission from the moment he took the job at Nokia was to gut MeeGo and effectively make Nokia a Microsoft subsidiary. The only talent bleed I recall hearing about started after Elop killed MeeGo development. I never understood the power dynamic that must have taken place at Nokia that allowed Elop to enter. For a deliciously incendiary and detailed writeup, see https://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/06/do-i-really-have-to-ok-ok-ok-i-will-do-update-to-nokia-disaster-year-after-profit-warning.html.

  10. How about eelo (aka /e/) ? by herve_masson · · Score: 2

    It seems to me that https://e.foundation/ also qualifies as independant mobile os.

    1. Re:How about eelo (aka /e/) ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't actually seem to have a product. Sailfish has been around for nearly a decade.

    2. Re:How about eelo (aka /e/) ? by herve_masson · · Score: 1

      They are now in beta test. Those guys are'nt out of nowhere either; Gaël Duval. He created Mandrake Linux long time ago.

  11. Independent where? by magarity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since when does being officially licensed in Russia and China mean "independent" any more than the other OSes?

    1. Re:Independent where? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      They're trying to find out how best to describe "proprietary but unimportant" and flailing badly.

      In the old days, before open source, before Free Software, independent actually meant that.

  12. Where is my Tablet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously Where is my tablet?

    1. Re: Where is my Tablet by RussH · · Score: 1

      My Jolla Tablet works just fine, thanks.

  13. Well, it's not independant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given it contains copyrighted ideas, patents and other stuff from intel and nokia.

  14. Purism Librem 5 running PureOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's hold out some hope that the Purism Librem 5 smartphone turns out to be a real thing and not vaporware:

    https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

    1. Re:Purism Librem 5 running PureOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They deride competitors for having a business model that doesn't offer ongoing support yet parade things like "supported forever" without describing their business model behind that? do they just work for free forever? Then there's the disingenuous claims against competitors that they sell "your profile and data being products sold to the highest bidder", which is complete bullshit. They make claims like the "user controls the device", well that may be true if you limit it to the open source software running on it but what about the closed hardware and firmware? More disingenuous marketing. There's a lot of dubious claims and not a lot of substance or specifications.

      In the end it's open source software running on top of closed source hardware and software anyway.

  15. Linux will still exist. It is not PoetterOS. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are metadistributions like Gentoo Linux From Scatch, and you can always just fork everything.

  16. we really need a free smartphone OS by cats-paw · · Score: 2

    we really do...

    I think the current state of smartphone OSs proves most of the major points Stallman every made about why software needs to be free.

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    1. Re:we really need a free smartphone OS by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Naw, if you look at things like the Gnome Debacle, you can see that Free Software only protects against certain proprietary abuses, it doesn't actually achieve its main aim which is to prevent "embrace, extend, extinguish." With GPL, you're still one maintainer away from a "paradigm shift" that makes all your past changes useless.

      And if you look around at alternatives, other licenses that allow copying consistently have offerings that are at least comparable to whatever FSF puts out.

      Maybe software should be Free, should have Freedom, but that isn't what Stallman points out; he claims that software should be required to be in the Free Software Movement. The ideas share some words and ideas, but are actually substantially different.

      That's why I have a strong preference for code under the Apache 2 license; it is so free everybody can copy it! GPL code can include it, BSD code can include it, proprietary code can include it. Complete Freedom! Freedom not only from proprietary restriction, but also Freedom from people who would weigh your Freedom and tell you if you have enough, or if you need to do it their way instead. To be more "Free."

    2. Re:we really need a free smartphone OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does it feel like to blow smoke your your ass? Inquiring minds want to know.

    3. Re:we really need a free smartphone OS by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      We have numerous free software smartphone OSes. What we apparently lack is people who care to use them.

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    4. Re:we really need a free smartphone OS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That there is freedom, you get pushback on that via false claims that it allows "restricting" of peoples' freedom but that is entirely untrue. If I copy an Apache-2 licensed project and release a non-free derived work nobody is any less free than they were before. Nothing has been taken away or restricted but it is the RIAA/MPAA argument that things that you never had (profits in their version) can be taken away.

      Restrictive licenses prevent co-operation and restrict it to shared software ideology, it is an attempt to divide the development community and RMS uses terms like "immoral", as if it were an objective measure, to describe anything he doesn't like.

      Do we need a free smartphone OS? No, of course not and that's why after all these years nobody has actually built one. Even the ones that are close have a big chunk of proprietary software just above the hardware.

  17. One thing we need to fight for by nightfire-unique · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One thing we as a community need to fight for is our right to escalate privileges on our devices. We need legislation, and we need technology solutions.

    It is NOT okay that I need to ask the manufacturer of my device for the root / bootloader unlock password. NOT okay.

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    1. Re: One thing we need to fight for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't agree more. I had an S5 which I got unlocked but could not figure out how to root. No hacking technique worked. It probably would have helped to have a windows machine. But it should not be that hard. I want to control my device, not at&t.

    2. Re:One thing we need to fight for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's all well and good to say but what are you doing to actually push for legislative and technology solutions? What concrete actions are you taking? Anybody can shoot for a /. karma boost by saying "we need to..." without actually doing anything or suggesting anything.

      Really the overwhelming majority of the customer-base has no need or desire for that. Why would any average user decide that instead of having a company like Apple safeguard their data that they would rather take on that responsibility themselves? Geeks deride such people as sheep and then get on a bus, train, plane, car with a stranger directing the machine full of software and hardware you don't understand that are quite literally in charge of whether you live or die, oh but that doesn't matter so long as you know how to configure a firewall and disk encryption to safeguard your dick pics.

    3. Re:One thing we need to fight for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Settle down, Beavis.

    4. Re:One thing we need to fight for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't buy a phone you can't update. I bought a Sony Xperia XA2. I looked up how to update it with OSS, and it's completely supported. I'm not going to actually do it, but it's nice to know that I can.

    5. Re:One thing we need to fight for by fph+il+quozientatore · · Score: 1

      Did they mention the part about backing up your partition containing some DRM keys in case you want to install Android back? It's a step forward, but I guess it's not as free as one would dream...

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  18. iClone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is there more than the screenshots offer? It's same as iOS.

  19. Re by kurkosdr · · Score: 2

    Phones running alternative mobile OSes (aka not iOS or Android) are a waste of money in 2018. All text and voice communication is now dependent on certain apps officially available only for the big two OSes. Yes there are third-party clients, but it's not the same. SMS and MMS used to be OS-neutral, but the apps that replaced them are not. And then there is the whole content consumption problem with the content being tied to services, and these services may not even have third-party alternatives for alternative OSes. If you want to buy a Jolla phone and enjoy watching it gather dust, go ahead and do it.

    1. Re:Re by jarle.aase · · Score: 1

      The Jolla phone had an Android emulator that worked just fine. So you could run Jolla apps (Qt/QML) and most Android apps.

    2. Why "had", work"ed"? It still works, I'm using one right now (on a Sony Xperia X).

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    3. Re:Re by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SMS not neutral? I can send an SMS by email.

  20. Amazing OS, incompetent company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I owned a Jolla 2 Sailfish phone and kept it for as long as I could, until the phone was no more (which was fairly soon after purchase).

    The Sailfish OS was an absolute joy to use, despite the odd niggle here and there. And the ability to run android apps on it meant that I could retain my favourite android apps if I wanted to. Alo, as a linux user, it was a pleasure to have a linux terminal I could ssh into from my desktop and vice versa and copy files and run batch-commands without any of that mtp crap. I have now gone back to android and really miss my Sailfish phone

    However, in fairness, as amazing as the OS was, the company was incompetent and systematically ignored its userbase and their needs. Take this post for instance which has actively been flagging broken Notes functionality in Contacts (a critical feature for a mobile OS) for the last five years and through 3 milestone versions of the OS. The devs always focused on 'sparkly' stuff they could use to promote the OS to investors first, and ignored their users when it came to broken functionality. Combine that with the fact they made some awful business decisions leading to returned products, and physical phones prone to breakage and lack of appropriate warranty procedure or replacement, and you get an idea why they've had to look for the kind of solution they did just now (i.e. "China": every Startup company's dream-turned-nightmare).

    I am now holding out to see how that other up-and-coming linux phone will fare, (the Librem phone, the one Bryan Lunduke seems to keep advertising). But that seems like an altogether different solution. Too bad, Sailfish was nice while it lasted.

  21. rewriting history? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    what the hell is this summary all about.
    Elop was an ex-MS guy who simply destroyed Nokia (so MS could buy it). Nokia could have been big in the smartphone market, as they were one of the biggest mobile brands and they were not late to the smartphone party yet.
    Just the fact that Jolla is still alive today, is evidence enough it was a good platform, just image what they could have accomplished if Nokia really pulled through on it.

    This is just another story where management destroyed the company, very much like the Amiga (see the other recent article on /.)

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    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
  22. Why does it matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see why it matters. Last I checked, most phones have locked down bootloaders, and there doesn't appear to be a way to install an alternative OS that has drivers for all the proprietary phone hardware out there. Sure, Firefox OS and Ubuntu Phone OS and the like worked on a few 5 or 6 year old phones, but how does that help anyone? A very small amount of people actually owned a Nexus 7.