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Tumblr Porn Vanishes Today
Earlier this month, Tumblr announced that it would be permanently banning adult content from its platform on December 17th. Well, that day has arrived and the social media site is now hiding all posts that are currently flagged as explicit, as well as posts that users are in the process of appealing. This includes media showing sex acts, exposed genitals, and "female-presenting" nipples. The Verge reports: In addition to what's already gone, more adult content is going to be flagged in coming weeks, Tumblr says, and it hopes that the automated tools will be more accurate at picking out what counts as explicit. In a blog post that went up today, Tumblr apologized to users: "We are sorry that this has not been an easy transition and we know we can do a better job of explaining what we're doing." It said the change would be a slow process that involves "flagging tens of billions of GIFs, videos, and photos."
Many users also criticized Tumblr's decision to consider "female-presenting nipples" as explicit, while male-presenting nipples were still okay. Some pointed out that in the case of non-binary, genderfluid, or trans individuals, it would be confusing where the line would be drawn on whose nipples would be considered explicit. In its blog post today, Tumblr has added the caveat, "yeah, we know you hate this term," but maintained the language and distinction. "We understand and agree that there have been too many wrongfully flagged posts since we announced the policy change," says Tumblr. But if users don't appeal their posts, then they're out of luck. That could also be a problem for popular older accounts, which may not have anyone monitoring them to appeal the overly aggressive moderation. Flagged content will be hidden, but not deleted, Tumblr emphasized. That will allow posts to be appealed even after they're removed from public view. On a more positive note, Tumblr says that "all appeals will be sent to a real, live human who can make the appropriate call."
Many users also criticized Tumblr's decision to consider "female-presenting nipples" as explicit, while male-presenting nipples were still okay. Some pointed out that in the case of non-binary, genderfluid, or trans individuals, it would be confusing where the line would be drawn on whose nipples would be considered explicit. In its blog post today, Tumblr has added the caveat, "yeah, we know you hate this term," but maintained the language and distinction. "We understand and agree that there have been too many wrongfully flagged posts since we announced the policy change," says Tumblr. But if users don't appeal their posts, then they're out of luck. That could also be a problem for popular older accounts, which may not have anyone monitoring them to appeal the overly aggressive moderation. Flagged content will be hidden, but not deleted, Tumblr emphasized. That will allow posts to be appealed even after they're removed from public view. On a more positive note, Tumblr says that "all appeals will be sent to a real, live human who can make the appropriate call."
But I like "female-presenting" nipples
I've been downloading 24x7 since they made the announcement.
There are many reasons I am embarrassed to be a citizen of the US, but prevalent attitudes toward stuff like sex in the US are near the top of the list.
If only the idiots who have such Puritanical attitudes would abstain from all sex, so their genes would disappear from the gene pool.
and how the real human will make the call in edge cases. One liberal tumblr censor will let vaguely sexy photos of clothed gay guys pass, while some holier-than-thou christian-leaning one will ban photos of nuns...
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
...unless you're into baby shit in which case it's banned.
Did it have any other uses than porn?
Know ... your ... audience ....
is also banning burqa pictures that show excessive eyes, or any ankles. /s
They're "Only" tossing 26% of their content, what could possible go wrong? /s
This decision by Tumblr is lazy, cowardly, and short-sighted. All attempts to place a blanket prohibition on sexual material, whether in books, magazines, films, or digital media have always been doomed to eventually bite the hands that place the prohibition.
Problems include:
- Defining sexual content, like "obscenity", risks a descent into ridiculous nitpickery. "I know it when I see it" is not an objective measure.
- Considering exaggerated violence more acceptable than sexuality is a peculiarly American disease. Both here and in the many places where I see it elsewhere in the world, it seems descended from religious dogma. I am sick to death of people forcing their beliefs on others. I believe it's far more healthy to "make love, not war" and I don't believe in suppressing this belief to just go along with the cultural norms of the week
- "Kids shouldn't have access to this" is not an unreasonable position, especially if the kids being referred to are one's own. So I'm not against the use of parental filters, but of course they will be circumvented easily enough when the kids get interested enough in seeing the alluringly forbidden material, whatever it is.
Enough. I'm just preaching out of frustration born of decades of sliding down the slippery slope toward institutionally promulgated "morailty", and the steadily increasing tyranny of the majority.
This includes media showing ... "female-presenting" nipples.
Hey Tumblr - did you just assume the gender of EVERY NIPPLE ON TUMBLR????
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I don't even know/care what tumblr is. Guess I missed out on juicy pr0n
Let's be honest here, what is left now? I'm dead serious. Is there any other use?
For personal family pics, there's sites with better organization, for "hey look at this shit" there's snapchat, what function does tumblr serve now anymore?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
> i wonder if the radical right and radical left really control the US agenda in terms of a voice of reason.
Yes, they do. See any discussion on Slashdot for proof. For even more radical talk see any discussion on any other site. When is the last time you read a comment here that said "good point, I hadn't thought of it that way before"? How about "I understand your concern, and that's a valid concern. However I foresee a potential problem with your proposed solution ..." We just throw stones at each other from our radical left or right viewpoints and don't even have a real discussion anymore.
Yes, I get caught up in it too. Once in a while I acknowledge a good point made by someone arguing an opposite viewpoint, but most days I don't. When I do, often someone comments, suprised that I actually read the other person's post and thought about their point of view, because that's unusual these days. Including unusual for me to do it, even trying.
Part of that is because most of our media is so partisan. If you mainly watch CNN, the news you see every day will make sure you become a raging liberal, and start to hate conservatives. If you watch or read Fox, it's pretty hard not to become a raging conservative, given the news they show you every day.
It's sad. We really lose out by not taking the time to understand the other person's viewpoint and really thinking about the value it has, and how to work together based on the end goals that we all want. Often, we have very different ideas about the best means to accomplish something, the best policy, and don't even realize we both are wanting to accomplish the same end goal. We just disagree on how to get there.
If we could remember we're working toward the same end goals, things like economic prosperity, that opens up an opportunity to do something really cool that both brings us together and finds the best solutions.
First agree on some metrics that will later tell us (roughly) whether a policy worked. Then find two or more states that are implementing different policies and check the metric in a year or two to see which one worked better. With 50 states in the US, it's often not hard to find five or even ten states doing it this way, and five or ten states doing it that way. Agree on the measurement and check back in a year to see which approach worked best.
Content should have been labelled and users could have chosen through a particular set of filters that apply to their culture, or even define new personal filters and share them with others.
Thus, people would only see posts they like, which of course means it would be safe for everyone.
But they didn't do this because they want to provide better value to their customers, but to satisfy the current lefty social justice craze.
I don't even know what tumblr is, some picture sharing site or some nonsense like that ?
.. perhaps slightly offtopic... why do these companies allow SJW to run/ruin their businesses ? I've been hearing similar stuff all the time in the past 4-5 years.
But
Why so hard to say, fuck off ?
It would appear that most people are actually sane, so why try to please these fascist lunatics that want to dictate ?
Once upon a midnight dreary,
while I websurfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious website
of 'hot chicks galore',
While through the net I went boring,
suddenly there came a warning,
And my heart was filled with mourning,
mourning for my dear amour.
"'Tis not possible," I muttered,
"give me back my cheap hardcore!"
Quoth the server, "404".
It's about advertisers. It's the same reason you don't see boobs on Network TV. There's a small vocal group of nut jobs on both the left and right. The left calls then SJWs and the right Place but it's same thing, folks who enjoy and profit from getting offended and are given a disproportionate amount of power and voice. Advertisers have heeded them since advertising was a thing. Remember the Satanic Panic? The Comics Code. Same thing. It's about money and markets.
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part of the problem is, that one of the sides sees their way as the only way because they're "on a mission from god" and therefore will not compromise
Both sides of the aisle are overly self-righteous.
R: There are clearly some problems with our immigration laws. Let's fix them. Just having bureaucracts ignore whichever laws they fell like ignoring today doesn't seem like a good idea. We should probably decide as a country what the law should be, instead of individual politicians ignoring the law and doing whatever they want.
D: You hate brown people! You're a piece of shit racist!
We have one of the most senior Democrats in Congress, Maxine Waters (first elected in 1991) invoking God to tell people to physically assault conservatives in public:
-- ...
"have protesters taking up at their house, who say, 'No peace, no sleep. No peace, no sleep'
God is on OUR side! On the side of the children. On the side of what's right. On the side of what's honorable.
And so, let's stay the course. Let's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up and if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere
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Maxine Waters, D California
This isn't helpful for discussing the best policies for our nation.