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China Launched More Rockets Into Orbit In 2018 Than Any Other Country (technologyreview.com)
Privately funded space startups are changing China's space industry, helping it become a space power on par with the United States. "2018 is shaping up to be the first year in which more rockets reach Earth orbit from China than from any other country," reports MIT Technology Review. "As of mid-December, China had made 35 successful launches, as against 30 for the U.S."
"As American and Russian space programs struggle with uncertain budgets, China is expanding its efforts on every front: communications and reconnaissance satellites; a navigation and positioning constellation to rival America's GPS; a human spaceflight program; and ambitious space-science and robotic exploration projects. All of these are enabled by a menagerie of new rockets with advanced capabilities." Here's an excerpt from the report summarizing some of China's space ambitions: In 2014, the Chinese government decided to allow private investment in space-related industry. Landspace began with a few dozen people. It now has over 200 employees at a manufacturing base in Huzhou in eastern China and at assembly and testing facilities in X'ian, a central Chinese city. The company plans to work incrementally, beginning with nano-satellites -- devices weighing between 1 and 10 kilograms (2 to 22 pounds) -- then moving to larger cargoes and, eventually, into human spaceflight. In September 2018, iSpace launched three nanosatellites on a brief suborbital flight, becoming the first Chinese space startup to successfully get beyond Earth's atmosphere. Another company, LinkSpace, plans to launch a vertical takeoff, vertical landing rocket in 2020. Landspace, OneSpace, iSpace, LinkSpace, and ExPace (which fashions itself as a startup though it's a subsidiary of a state-owned enterprise) are the leaders of a bevy of lesser-known Chinese launch startups.
These launch companies are operating hand in hand with a number of new, privately funded Chinese companies that are focused on doing things in space, rather than on getting there. Spacety and Commsat, among others, are planning large constellations of small imagery and communication satellites. Such constellations -- whether Chinese or American -- are transforming aspects of the way space is used. By making low-resolution satellite imagery much cheaper to gather (among other novel applications for small satellites), they are catalyzing an era of more nimble commercial, scientific, and military experimentation.
"As American and Russian space programs struggle with uncertain budgets, China is expanding its efforts on every front: communications and reconnaissance satellites; a navigation and positioning constellation to rival America's GPS; a human spaceflight program; and ambitious space-science and robotic exploration projects. All of these are enabled by a menagerie of new rockets with advanced capabilities." Here's an excerpt from the report summarizing some of China's space ambitions: In 2014, the Chinese government decided to allow private investment in space-related industry. Landspace began with a few dozen people. It now has over 200 employees at a manufacturing base in Huzhou in eastern China and at assembly and testing facilities in X'ian, a central Chinese city. The company plans to work incrementally, beginning with nano-satellites -- devices weighing between 1 and 10 kilograms (2 to 22 pounds) -- then moving to larger cargoes and, eventually, into human spaceflight. In September 2018, iSpace launched three nanosatellites on a brief suborbital flight, becoming the first Chinese space startup to successfully get beyond Earth's atmosphere. Another company, LinkSpace, plans to launch a vertical takeoff, vertical landing rocket in 2020. Landspace, OneSpace, iSpace, LinkSpace, and ExPace (which fashions itself as a startup though it's a subsidiary of a state-owned enterprise) are the leaders of a bevy of lesser-known Chinese launch startups.
These launch companies are operating hand in hand with a number of new, privately funded Chinese companies that are focused on doing things in space, rather than on getting there. Spacety and Commsat, among others, are planning large constellations of small imagery and communication satellites. Such constellations -- whether Chinese or American -- are transforming aspects of the way space is used. By making low-resolution satellite imagery much cheaper to gather (among other novel applications for small satellites), they are catalyzing an era of more nimble commercial, scientific, and military experimentation.
All countries are learning, including the US. The failure rate on US projects is still quite high. Some of us still remember why the Shuttle had to be retired. To catch up with the US, China only needs to put a rover or two on mars and take some nice photos of planets. 10 missions max could show the world that China is a major player in space exploration. They are already planning to put a rover on the far side of the moon, which has never been done before and have shot down a satellite. Yes, the US put men on the moon, but it's already common knowledge that manned spaceflight is kind of pointless. The nearest habitable planter is arguably tripper 1e, and it would take more than a lifetime to get there with current, or even near-future technology. Sending people to mars would be a very risky endeavour. However, China is probably more interested in near-earth orbit. If you can dominate that then you can dominate GPS, data, spy on people and even weaponise space.
Indeed, the Shuttle program was so untenably expensive, they moved forward with a replacement program (SLS) with huge R&D costs that uses the same booster hardware, only with one additional booster segment.
Oh, wait...
The boosters were what made it expensive, the Shuttle itself was a cost-saving measure.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
For the US and Russia they are more of an indication of legislative and budget priorities.
More accurately, legislative and budget priorities in past years. It typically takes a number of years to design, build, and test both launch platforms and payloads For example, the James Webb Space Observatory has been under development for TWO DECADES and won't launch until 2021. And that's only if the launch date doesn't slip (again).
You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
Seriously, SpaceX just launched 64 on one launch, several other launched have been multiple satellites on one launch too. Pretty standard for the new iridium satellites.
China still has the ability to put humans in space, something the US currently does not. And the next person on the moon will likely be Chinese too. Mars is harder to predict, maybe a Chinese astronaut or maybe a Space X employee, but at the rate it is currently going NASA is definitely in 3rd place.
It's such a damn shame, especially with the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 next year.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
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Space access is being commoditized to the point that civilian commercial corporations can lob people into orbit, and you call that "a shame"? Soyez and China's Soyez 2.0 represent the old way. People getting in to space without the blessing of her majesty is a tremendous advance.
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The whole shuttle program was an overpriced failure. If you think that the failures in the shuttle program is limited to a "couple of failures" (assuming you are referring to the losses of Challenger and Columbia) you are probably misinformed. These failures were just the saddest consequences of the Shuttle program.
1. The completely ridiculous and outrageous budget forced the placement of the orbiter into a location relative to the booster rockets and tanks that killed 14 people.
2. The final design of the orbiters were 20% overweight---making them too heavy to launch many devices the Shuttle program was originally designed to handle (such as launching some satellites into polar orbit).
3. Two words: Tile Maintenance
4. Much lower launch rates (max of 9/yr versus projected 24 to 55).
5. The horrible safety culture at NASA and their vendors/contractors.
6. Cost overrun after cost overrun after cost overrun.... (Even when considering that it was a US government project.)
These are just a few of the program failures. People have written books about how bad the Shuttle program was and how bad NASA still is.
By the way, the main reason the Shuttle program ran as long as it did is because it was NASA's one egg in their basket. There was nothing to replace the "space truck" while the US built the new space station (eventually becoming the ISS) which, itself, was very behind schedule. Had the fall of the Soviet Union occurred earlier, along with Roscosmos' involvement in the ISS, the Shuttle program would most likely have been cancelled earlier.
Commercial services are great, it's just that there isn't much a of a business case for getting back to the moon or to Mars.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
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China still has the ability to put humans in space, something the US currently does not. And the next person on the moon will likely be Chinese too.
Very likely. The US and Russians have nothing to prove, and no other reason to justify the cost. I don't see India beating China.
Mars could be a NASA mission, with SpaceX providing the rockets.
Not currently, no - but there cannot ever be a business case for, say, the moon if there isn't first a business case for simply lifting people into space. It's not hard to imagine how you might need people to help service a space infrastructure, but it is hard to imagine a need for any kind of commercial activity on the moon without a commercial space infrastructure.
But that is besides the point. If the government can contract a company to use off-the-shelf hardware to boost people into space, that is a huge step forward versus contracting with companies to produce custom designs from scratch. Launches will be an order of magnitude cheaper - perhaps more.
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Priorities have shifted. It's much cheaper to pay Russia to launch our astronauts to ISS than to maintain a special vehicle for that purpose alone.
The capability is there, the desire.. not so much.
"Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
Ya but we're getting the Thunderbirds! Trump said so, so there! Are you ready for this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Saying "cali" pretty much indicates you've n ever been to "cali", nor lived there.
Wow... weaponize... I noticed the 'S' in your spelling. It's pretty significant at this time while Brexit is occurring.
A few years ago, I remember something that was almost life changing for me. It was an interview with Mikhail Gorbachev where he came out as critical against the western world. When the worked with Reagan and GWB to end the cold war peacefully, he believed he was helping Russia to enter a new world where it would be England, the USA and Russia reigning in an era of cooperation and peace. What he said however was that James Bond (specifically) and Hollywood made a huge deal about how Russia was nothing more than a bunch of corrupt ex-KGB and hookers. And of course, England and the US made a huge deal out of how they won the cold war and how Russia was basically about as important as any other third world country now.
This changed my life because I realized how foolish we all were after the curtain came down. We all listened to the propaganda and what would make good TV. We seemed to think it didn't matter that the Russians were now going to the movies and watching the same things we were. It didn't matter that we were all buying into this James Bond "We're civilized, you're all animals" thing.
All major countries spy. If we go back to James Bond, not only does the UK spy, but the British take incredible pride in their spy capabilities. They advertise them as being national heroes. I'm actually shocked Ian Flemming wasn't knighted.
Yes, China spies, but imagine if we classified all aspects of English industry as being completely military and intelligence related?
What if I were to suggest as an American that the only reason why England has any interest in space is so they could spy?
You might site things like science, research, industry, communication, etc... and you'd be right.
If you were to suggest that China only cares about military and intelligence, I'd call you a fool.
China cares about communism which in its Chinese form is rapidly approaching systematic (and somewhat enforced) Confucianism. The Chinese government repressed two full generations in order to establish a normal. As such, they established a set of rules and molded a sense of uniformity throughout the entire nation. And even if the little red book was considered horrible by the west, you should read it sometime. It was about working together to make something better. Norway (where I live) has a little red book called "Janteloven" which is also used in Sweden and Denmark. By something Americans and Englishmen would call brainwashing, a standard is set which convincing the people of the nations to think of more than just themselves. It's a beautiful thing... I as an American learned a great deal about being a good person by living in a society that damn near brutally inflicts communism on its people from birth. I mean, seriously... you are expected to leave your baby in a baby carriage in the freezing cold while you sit and drink coffee indoors at a cafe.
China cares about establishing a One China vision which is far closer to the American dream than American ever had. But the American dream could never be accomplished through the western way. It required a massive portion of the entire world's population to work together towards a goal.
If you need proof of any of this... look to India, a country defined by "Every man for himself"... I spoke to a pretty Indian girl at a hotel in Qatar not long ago and asked her "As a woman, would you recommend bringing my wife and daughter to Doha on vacation" and she immediately responded "Yes!" and I asked "Wow... I expected to hear stories of repression against women" and she said "Nonsense.... I love Doha" and I asked "Why", she responded "Because if someone rapes me, I can go to the police". I stood completely dumbfounded and unable to speak.
Now... let's compare India to the 51 states (US and England) and to China.
India which is every person for themselves is a third world caste based country where girls flee the c