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ACLU To Feds: Your 'Hacking Presents a Unique Threat To Individual Privacy' (arstechnica.com)

The American Civil Liberties Union, along with Privacy International, a similar organization based in the United Kingdom, have now sued 11 federal agencies, demanding records about how those agencies engage in what is often called "lawful hacking." From a report: The activist groups filed Freedom of Information Act requests to the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and nine others. None responded in a substantive way. "Law enforcement use of hacking presents a unique threat to individual privacy," the ACLU argues in its lawsuit, which was filed Friday in federal court in New York state. "Hacking can be used to obtain volumes of personal information about individuals that would never previously have been available to law enforcement."

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  1. ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    *crickets*

    1. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ACLU to be on YouTube's InfoWars Channel ....

      oh, wait a minute ...

    2. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this about that actually and cat pictures? The lawless speech of lawless members of lawless criminal organizations will end up in the hands of the unique organizations with pristine Ikea tables. Do you have laws inside you, citizen? Freedom out, dude.

    3. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Infowars is click-trash for morons. The ACLU is a real organization fighting real legal battles for the rights of citizens in the free world. The difference? Trumptards can't see it, so they conflate and confuse the two missions.

      Pity the low-info cattle as their feckless cunt traitor leadership goes to prison, it's going to be hard for them to accept and understand why reality is kicking their asses again.

    4. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They're still big advocates of free speech. As long as it's not hate speech or speech that hurts someone's feelings.

    5. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      The ACLU absolutely does support actual free speech, but unfortunately for nazi faggots, that doesn't include their illegal and unsupportable hate screech

      Bullcrap. The ACLU most certainly does defend hate speech, and they have specifically defended Nazis.

      They are not the hypocrites that you claim they are.

    6. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Informative

      As long as it's not hate speech or speech that hurts someone's feelings.

      Bullcrap. From their own website: The First Amendment to the Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content.

      Next time take a few seconds to check your facts before posting ignorant garbage.

    7. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      The ACLU is a communist organization, and anyone who supports them is a treasonous criminal as well. The left wing in this country is dying off and organizations like the ACLU and SPLC are barely hanging on. 60s hippies will be gone soon and you will have no representation. What will you do comrade?

    8. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bill you just conflated "hate speech" = a crime the ACLU does not legally support - with - "unpopular speech" by conservative (bigots) on campuses, which cannot be legally curtailed on that basis in public.

      They are not the same thing, but you conflate them as if they were because that supports your argument in the moment, so it's understandable that you'd confuse them.

    9. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate speech = a crime & legal/PR liability for the platform. Hurt feelings = still allowed & legally protected.. I don't believe the ACLU has ever not protected someone on the basis of provocative "insult" or meanness, as Bill points out.

    10. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wonder what exactly the ACLU is. It seems like this monolithic thing but when I was in college I interned at a place like it and I found that they are fairly localized. I guess I am wondering where did the ACLU file this complaint for example? Local? National?

    11. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feds = National. Union = Non-profit org in this case. They have branches like any org, locally, to address local issues and do xyz. https://www.aclu.org/about-aclu

    12. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Republican party is a Russian organization now, you were close, traitor. The only thing "dying off" is Trump's chances of NOT dying off in Federal Prison. Bring lube, faggot traitors. YOU WILL NEED IT BADLY.

    13. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    14. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Freedom of Speech is like Freedom of the Press in that he who owns the transport owns the freedom. If the transport does not belong to you, then the freedom does not belong to you.

      Freedom of the Press belongs to he who owns the press.

      Similarly Freedom of Speech belongs to he who owns the "transport" for the speech. Freedom of Speech claimants very often do not own the thing which is transporting the speech nor do they have a interest enforceable at all (such as the government owns it on their behalf).

      That is, if you wish to have "Freedom of Speech" on "Facebook", then you better own "Facebook" for if you do not, then the owner is likely to just tell you to pump sand and go buy your own.

    15. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much less than they used to, seems like the goalposts have moved for that organization:
      https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/21/aclu-leaked-memo-free-speech
      https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/aclu-abandons-free-speech-embraces-progressive-advocacy/
      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/aclu-secretly-demotes-free-speech.php
      https://nypost.com/2018/06/21/aclu-stops-caring-about-free-speech-and-other-comments/
      https://www.newsweek.com/free-speech-hate-speech-aclu-civil-liberties-donald-trump-652050
      https://www.reddit.com/r/samharris/comments/75ck7f/more_than_200_employees_of_the_aclu_sign_secret/
      Paywalled:
      https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-aclu-retreats-from-free-expression-1529533065
      referring to:
      https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACLU.pdf?mod=article_inline

      Not only that but they are on the side of discriminating against asians:
      https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-statement-harvard-admissions-trial

    16. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Satire in this arena is generally unproductive because the arguments often take place between those people who think more than 0 levels deep and those who don't.

    17. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

      Bill you just conflated "hate speech" = a crime the ACLU does not legally support - with - "unpopular speech" by conservative (bigots) on campuses

      No I didn't. Both "hate speech" and "unpopular speech" are constitutionally protected, and the ACLU supports your right to speak either.

      The 1st Amendment doesn't say anything about "hate". What it does say is "no law" abridging speech.

      They are not the same thing

      Yes they are. Hate speech is only illegal if it is also unpopular. Nobody is going to arrest you for saying "I hate Nazis", because that is a popular viewpoint.

      Probably the most odious example of hate speech was the Nazi march through a Jewish neighborhood in Skokie, Illinois. The ACLU defended their right to march and speak.

    18. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Harvard is a private institution, they have a right to decide if they want 100% Chinese bullshit applications or a more rounded student body. That's not 1:1 with traditional discrimination even if race "appears" to be a factor prima facie.

    19. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Today hate speech is any speech that upsets someone's delicate sensibilities and sends them running for their lives to their personal safe spaces.

      ""Hacking can be used to obtain volumes of personal information about individuals that would never previously have been available to law enforcement."
      Replace "hacking" with "investigating" and the ACLU is basically advocating law enforcement agencies be prohibited from gathering any personal information when investigating a crime. On the international side of things the foreign intelligence agencies should also be prohibited from conducting any counter espionage operations because they infringe on a foreign nationals civil rights that the US never gave them in the first place.

      The US Constitution and Bill of Rights provide the general population with the tools to destroy the country from the inside. As the level of animosity and destruction increases all the rights currently protecting the public from the government start disappearing. People start choosing sides and each side believes their arguments are 100% right therefore any action to defeat their adversary is justified and once they win all the civil rights and rule of law will be restored.

    20. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.
      Yawn.

    21. Re:ACLU on free speech: by WhiplashII · · Score: 1

      OK, I'm curious. When was the last time the ACLU defended free speech by conservatives? (Not Nazis, they are not conservatives - I mean center conservatives, as in don't want to bake a cake guys)

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    22. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean center conservatives, as in don't want to bake a cake guys

      The problem is, I don't know if that's really a speech issue. Fundamentally, the only argument that could be made is the creative input that the cake maker must contribute is their speech and they have a right to not speak on subjects they don't support, but then that just makes they'll just not use their own creative input; ie, they'll just put on whatever design the customer wants. Now, is it a liberty issue? That's a very good question and one worth raising, but for the most part the ACLU doesn't get involved in those cases because they cover all sorts of business regulations.

    23. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GOOGLE IT DERP https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/06/19/a-history-of-the-aclu-defending-confederate-veterans-the-kkk-and-rush-limbaugh/

    24. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Hate speech is defined as incitement to violence, a crime.

      Nonsense. Hate and violence are two different things. So where is your "definition"?

      Merriam-Webster: Hate speech - speech expressing hatred of a particular group of people.

      Wikipedia: Hate speech - speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

      Dictionary.com: Hate speech - Speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group on the basis of national origin, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.

      None of these definitions includes a mention of violence.

      People have a right to hate, and a constitutional right to express that hatred. Any law that says otherwise should be vigorously opposed.

    25. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go prove me wrong, go shout your bomb threat at the airport. The FAA will be there to guard your Constitutional rights, no doubt faggot. Go, prove it. Stop blathering your bullshit and put your money where your dumb mouth is.

    26. Re:ACLU on free speech: by slashdice · · Score: 1

      Harvard is a private institution. Which receives Federal financial assistance. And is therefore subject to the Civil Rights act of 1964 and Title IX.

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    27. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Jon+Howard · · Score: 1

      I believe you mean they "were previously not the hypocrites". Times have changed, and I don't believe you'll find an example of the ACLU coming to the defense of anyone using "hate speech" in 2018. Likely not 2017, for that matter.

    28. Re: ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      LOL

      You halfwit. That's the POINT.

      You disagree with infowars and think it's trash.

      You STILL defend the right to talk shit.

      That's free speech.

      That's NOT the ACLU

    29. Re:ACLU on free speech: by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      That was in the 70s, and even back then they lost a lot of members and support over it. Today's ACLU regrets it's former extreme free speech stance and today supports restrictions on how people can speak, following the general principle of "free speech for me but not for thee".

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    30. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are inciting me to violence against you. Congratulations, by your own logic, you are spewing hate speech.

    31. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except how do you keep a website on the Internet when you hold a very unpopular view point? The businesses that provide Internet access can choose to not host your content.

      Not like there is a "free Internet" that cost more that anyone can sign up for compared to our "restricted Internet" that we have.

      Letting companies ban people over speech, especially huge ones like Facebook, Google and Twitter, is essentially restricting their freedom of speech.

      People can hate whatever that white power website, storm front? But now they operate on the dark web, or essentially underground. Free speech? Hardly.

  2. Re:Privacy be Dammed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the real reason for the government shut down, to delay the Mueller Investigation.

  3. This SHOULD be simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just make the requirements similar to a regular physical search.

    Anything not in "plain view" (I.e. on a publicly viewable web page, etc.) should require a warrant supported by probable cause. And that warrant should describe with reasonable particularity what is being searched for, and law enforcement may only take measures in conformity the such limitations. So no fishing expeditions, mass scrapes of data looking for edict of unrelated criminal activity, copying entire contact lists, etc. Where law enforcement need to impersonate someone, the requirements should be the same as for an undercover operation/sting.

    Private accounts should be treated like private residences. Where an access control must be bypassed, the warrant requirements should be same as for opening a locked door. If you use a work account, your employer has the right to allow a search, just as they could let the police search your desk.

    1. Re: This SHOULD be simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am pretty sure the police follow the law when they assist civilians just as when they perform their own investigative work

    2. Re:This SHOULD be simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The internet has super charged criminal activities. It is easier and faster to steal, cheat, con, misinform, and destroy what little civility we had. It has given a voice to the masses of idiots and morons who gravitate to each other and measure their intelligence by the number of Likes they get online. It's created a place where people think that wisdom, solutions, and understanding can be imparted in 140 characters or less since that meshes with the miniscule attention span. There are several predictions on what the computer and internet age was suppose to usher in and none of them have materialized. The paperless office is still a distant dream. Linux is not dominating the desktop. And connecting people across the world in real time has only increased the amount of global animosity.

  4. Re:Privacy be Dammed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No doubt. Pulling out of Syria and Afghanistan RIGHT AFTER PUTIN SUGGESTED IT was kind of obvious also. Unfortunately for Trump, the special counsel isn't furloughed or delayed by the shutdown. They're working all winter lol.

  5. I don't know which side is good here by WCMI92 · · Score: 0, Troll

    The ACLU are left wing communists. The government is also made of left wing communists. A wash.

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    1. Re:I don't know which side is good here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feds to ACLU: go pound sand.

  6. Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    In America, in the last 2 years, we have learned that there is no way information cannot be used in a non-partizan way.

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    1. Re:Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When one side is shamelessly baldfaced lying even well, well after being caught red-handed multiple times.... "Truth is not truth!" -et all... it's hard to have even a common definition of "information" really. There can be no debate.

      These traitors have undermined the basic foundations for logical thought because that's the easiest, shortest path to their control of deplorable idiots in our woefully uneducated country.

      Interestingly, a lot of this comes directly from Russia's influence in disinformation and whattaboutism and such STASI tactics as they've spent over a century honing to this (penultimate?) climax, owning the sitting POTUS like a pet.

    2. Re:Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right, Democrats are a huge scourge to US politics. The fewer of them the better.

    3. Re:Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Republican party is a 100% Russian-owned organization now, you were close, traitor. The only thing "dying off" is Trump's chances of NOT dying off in Federal Prison. Bring lube, faggot traitors. YOU WILL NEED IT BADLY

    4. Re:Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whats a POTUS? Does that stand for Piece Of Turd Under Semen?

    5. Re:Worse: No Non-Partizan Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was a Santorum

  7. "Lawful Hacking" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is like lawful pilfering, lawful rapes, lawful murders, lawful robber-barons...

    The moment an organization declares it's dismantling freedom and rights of its own people "lawfully", they should be executed to a man (and woman of course). You declare you're shredding what the nation stand for "for their safety", you get scaphism. It's certainly not trying to effect change from the inside using the law that's going to stop them from cranking the abuses up - the law's what they're using to do it.

  8. Go yell bomb threats in the airport Bill. Try it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "The First Amendment to the Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content." = A website Lorem-slogan, IS NOT their actual policy or history, and certainly not the truth of the Constitutional protections.

    You're conflating their website with the legal specifics. That's not going to prove anything. If you need to test this, go shout bomb threats in an airport and find out.

    No one will defend you on 1st Amendment grounds from the FAA fine and/or imprisonment, because your oversimple understanding does not actually apply like that.

  9. slashdot censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I submitted USA's own mass surveillance program 'Hemisphere' and that story NEVER got published. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/... [eff.org]

    Does CIA/NSA has / . on its payroll?

  10. American Hacking vs. Chinese Hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All governments conduct or sponsor hacking. The principal difference between the United States and China is that American hacking is subject to review by the judicial branch of government. Hence, the American Civil Liberties Union can sue Washington to curb American hacking or to expose its extent.

    Chinese hacking is not subject to such constraints. China is a brutal, authoritarian society.

    So, hacking by Westerners is not morally equivalent to hacking by Chinese or even Indians.

    1. Re:American Hacking vs. Chinese Hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes America is the greatest. Make America white (except Jews) and proud.

    2. Re: American Hacking vs. Chinese Hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So if someone claims freedom of speech but does not directly possess the means of transport what right do they have to demand control of the transport? Is this the typical central issue in free speech? Is that why I get those weekly spam from free speeches with all the thumbnails of the people being handcuffed for speaking their mind? As long as I am in a soapbox, what is up with the frickin ACLU pledge mailings? It is worse than the United way. So many choices. I can never even tell what I am choosing. Am I donating to the blah blah blah cause or the blah blah blah local chapter? Jeezuz

  11. The ACLU Committed Suicide a Month Ago by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    https://www.theatlantic.com/id...

    When someone stands accused of sexual assault in criminal court, does the ACLU believe in the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard merely because that is what the Constitution requires, or because it is better to leave some guilty people unpunished than to punish many innocents? “The old-school ACLU knew there was no contradiction between defending due process and ‘supporting survivors,’” David French writes. “Indeed, it was through healthy processes that we not only determined whether a person had been victimized, but also prevented the accused from becoming a ‘survivor’ of a profound injustice.”

    Says the criminal defense attorney Scott Greenfield:

    The ACLU cannot love constitutional rights only when it serves to further a cause on behalf of their favored marginalized group, then hate it when it doesn’t, and still be given credit as a voice for civil liberties Remember, due process “inappropriately favors the accused.”

    Those four words are the ACLU’s epitaph.

    1. Re: The ACLU Committed Suicide a Month Ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point. We are all figuratively screwed unless some superhero shows up no matter what at this point

  12. In other words by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    As long as it's not hate speech or speech that hurts someone's feelings.

    In other words, speech that is not particularly controversial and thus never needed protection.

  13. hypocrisy by bmo · · Score: 1

    I read the summary of this article and read the previous summary and...

    The US and the rest of the "free world" (such as it is) is bitching and moaning about APT10, a so-called hacking collective. Whilst the "free world" goes on hacking sprees against their own citizens (five-eyes, etc).

    It's not about catching criminals (the ACLU is falling into the semantics trap). It's about "instant dossiers" on people who might upset "the system" - i.e., the incumbent powers that be. Everyone has skeletons, and without "second chances" (the US since its founding had been the land of second chances - ability to re-invent oneself, until recently, with this data collecting bullshit tied to Real ID), there is not a politician in the US that can effect change.

    The future is a mishmash of Big Brother, Little Brothers (private companies collecting data to sell you things, for example) Brave New World, and GATTACA, in the worst possible way. Because every time I think something has gotten as worse as it can get, it gets worser by orders of magnitude, so my ruminations here and in my head can't possibly imagine the tyrannical dystopia coming down the road.

    NUMBER: 1593
    AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706â"90)
    QUOTATION: âoeWell, Doctor, what have we gotâ"a Republic or a Monarchy?â

        âoeA Republic, if you can keep it.â
    ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLINâ"at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberationâ"in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Marylandâ(TM)s delegates to the Convention.

    https://www.bartleby.com/73/15...

    "This tribble is dead, Jim" -- Dr. McCoy

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  14. Re: Go yell bomb threats in the airport Bill. Try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not?

    There is not and cannot be any law prohibiting (by prior restraint of speech) the shouting of bomb threats in an airport, nor of the shouting of fire in a crowded theatre.

    If you think there is is it because YOU are confused.

  15. Re: Go yell bomb threats in the airport Bill. Try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go prove me wrong, go shout your bomb threat at the airport. The FAA will be there to guard your Constitutional rights, no doubt faggot. Go, prove it. Stop blathering your bullshit and put your money where your dumb mouth is.

  16. Hacking without permission is always a problem by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Permission of the target that is. For one thing, all reasonable standards of evidence go out the window. That invites planting evidence. And since the feds are in no way morally superior to other people (if anything, they are significantly less moral), it will happen and in many cases the victim will not be able to mount an effective defense. The second problem is that people that need to fear being hacked in this way (and everybody not perfectly boring needs to) will self-censor. That is the death of civil society.

    Of course, authoritarians of all colors, and especially the religious fuckups, will welcome that. Individual thoughts? We cannot have that! These people may find out that all authoritarian legends are just smoke and mirrors! And where do you find most authoritarians? Right, in government service. Because that is what they crave: Universal order, enforced by as much violence as needed. No deviations. No disruptions. No progress. No individuality.

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    1. Re:Hacking without permission is always a problem by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Thats why the GCHQ never got in the legal system, never let on what they did in Ireland, with the Royal Ulster Constabulary Special Branch.
      When nobody understands what is collected and how, then groups been watched look inwards for informats.

      All the US gov had to do was keep using parallel construction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and random "adware" and "malware".
      Make the user click a link, open an unexpected document from a "friends" email and click on something.
      Make a browser connect in an unexpected way due to media and peer content.
      Decades of users could have been collected on for free.
      Now people want to know all about federal malware.

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  17. Re:Privacy be Dammed... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    Pulling out, what are you saying, the US should stay until Syria and Afghanistan are what totally knocked up, another series of baby terrorist organisation born to keep the forever war going. What the fuck are they doing in Syria in the first place, what problems have they ever solved in Afghanistan, the problem the US created in the first place and bragged about it. So destroy Afghanistan as a modern society and keep doing it there in after, why, what is the purpose, what problem is being solved. We all know what problems are being created and exacerbated but tell us what problems are being solved by continuing to fuck over Syria and Afghanistan and we have all heard how it props up war industrial complex profits, I mean they actually brag about it and call it a feature but yeah the majority of people don't and call it seriously insane psychopathic shit to kill people for profit.

    So what Chrissie presents will the US government and the US people be delivering to Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians, Lebanese, Palestinians, Libyans, Yemenis, Somalians, Pakistani's, Chrissie bombs, feel good bombs, health care bombs (euthanasia as freedom from the suffering caused by the sheer unadulterated greed of the US).

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  18. ACLU is *FULL OF SHIT* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If ACLU still has any sense of dignity left it would join Uncle Sam in accusing the Chinese of hacking rather than accusing Uncle Sam as the hacker.

    http://fortune.com/2018/12/20/u-s-china-hacking-indictment/