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ACLU To Feds: Your 'Hacking Presents a Unique Threat To Individual Privacy' (arstechnica.com)

The American Civil Liberties Union, along with Privacy International, a similar organization based in the United Kingdom, have now sued 11 federal agencies, demanding records about how those agencies engage in what is often called "lawful hacking." From a report: The activist groups filed Freedom of Information Act requests to the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Agency, and nine others. None responded in a substantive way. "Law enforcement use of hacking presents a unique threat to individual privacy," the ACLU argues in its lawsuit, which was filed Friday in federal court in New York state. "Hacking can be used to obtain volumes of personal information about individuals that would never previously have been available to law enforcement."

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  1. Re:ACLU on free speech: by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're still big advocates of free speech. As long as it's not hate speech or speech that hurts someone's feelings.

  2. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ACLU absolutely does support actual free speech, but unfortunately for nazi faggots, that doesn't include their illegal and unsupportable hate screech

    Bullcrap. The ACLU most certainly does defend hate speech, and they have specifically defended Nazis.

    They are not the hypocrites that you claim they are.

  3. In other words by MikeRT · · Score: 2

    As long as it's not hate speech or speech that hurts someone's feelings.

    In other words, speech that is not particularly controversial and thus never needed protection.

  4. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bill you just conflated "hate speech" = a crime the ACLU does not legally support - with - "unpopular speech" by conservative (bigots) on campuses

    No I didn't. Both "hate speech" and "unpopular speech" are constitutionally protected, and the ACLU supports your right to speak either.

    The 1st Amendment doesn't say anything about "hate". What it does say is "no law" abridging speech.

    They are not the same thing

    Yes they are. Hate speech is only illegal if it is also unpopular. Nobody is going to arrest you for saying "I hate Nazis", because that is a popular viewpoint.

    Probably the most odious example of hate speech was the Nazi march through a Jewish neighborhood in Skokie, Illinois. The ACLU defended their right to march and speak.

  5. Re:ACLU on free speech: by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Hate speech is defined as incitement to violence, a crime.

    Nonsense. Hate and violence are two different things. So where is your "definition"?

    Merriam-Webster: Hate speech - speech expressing hatred of a particular group of people.

    Wikipedia: Hate speech - speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, sex, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.

    Dictionary.com: Hate speech - Speech that attacks, threatens, or insults a person or group on the basis of national origin, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, or disability.

    None of these definitions includes a mention of violence.

    People have a right to hate, and a constitutional right to express that hatred. Any law that says otherwise should be vigorously opposed.