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India Curbs Power of Amazon and Walmart To Sell Products Online (nytimes.com)

The Indian government dealt a surprise blow on Wednesday to the e-commerce ambitions of Amazon and Walmart, effectively barring the American companies from selling products supplied by affiliated companies on their Indian shopping sites and from offering their customers special discounts or exclusive products. From a report: If strictly interpreted, the new policies could force significant changes in the India strategies of the retail giants. Amazon might have to stop competing with independent sellers and end its offerings of proprietary products like its Echo smart speakers in India, its top emerging market. For Walmart, which spent $16 billion this year to buy 77 percent of Flipkart, India's leading online retailer, the new rules could hamper its strategy of selling clothing and other products under its own private brands and prevent it from using its supply-chain expertise and clout with retailers to drive down prices for Indian consumers.

[...] The government posted the changes, which go into effect Feb. 1, without warning on Wednesday evening in New Delhi, while much of the business world in both countries was on vacation. [...] Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India initially courted foreign companies to invest more in the country after his 2014 election victory, but his administration has turned protectionist as his party's re-election prospects have dimmed in recent months. Mr. Modi has increasingly sought to bolster Indian firms and curb foreign ones through new policies, including one that requires foreign companies like Visa, Mastercard and American Express to store all data about Indians on computers inside the country.

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  1. Re:Good by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mr. Modi has increasingly sought to bolster Indian firms and curb foreign ones through new policies, including one that requires foreign companies like Visa, Mastercard and American Express to store all data about Indians on computers inside the country.

    Actually, implementing such a policy isn't protectionist. It is just common sense. After all, as an American living in the US, I wouldn't want my US financial data being stored anywhere else but the US.

  2. Tit for Tat by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The easiest fix is to play the H-1B card.

    Don't want American companies as competition in your country ?
    No problem, how about we don't allow Indian workers into the H-1B Visa program . . . . at all ?
    ( It is, pretty much, the only thing we import from India )

    Wouldn't want the competition destroying American jobs now would we ? :|

    1. Re:Tit for Tat by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes we should force their talented developers to stay in India. That will show them who's boss.

    2. Re:Tit for Tat by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the talented ones can work just as well from india.

      the ones are are ordinary and have no special talents are not needed here.

      india and china are showing true colors, as time goes on. I hope we start to reduce reliance on foreign labor and imports.

      the h1b program was never about 'best and brightest', so stop right there. if we halted 100% of labor imports from the far east, we'd be fine. the ceo's would worry since they would have to pay real american wages to locals, but they'd get used to it. they were used to it, once.

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    3. Re:Tit for Tat by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you bother to read the summary they are not banning American brands, they are actually doing something like what H1B is supposed to do: preventing unfair competition.

      It's more like heading off an antitrust problem. American companies are established and have huge capital behind them, and will crust the emerging online market in India. So just like H1B is supposed to stop foreign workers undercutting US ones on wages and flooding the market with cheap labour, India is making sure that American companies can't flood it with cheap products and massive discounts that the local talent can't match.

      It's likely calculated to try to force the US market to open up a bit too, as India knows that it is an important area of growth for many US companies.

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  3. the rules are unrealistic and thus... by RhettLivingston · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The rules, if applied with strict interpretation, would pretty much shut down any modern retailer of any type, not just the big guys. It essentially bans having fixed arrangements with suppliers - of having supply chains period.

    Virtually all chains have deals they've made with suppliers. Enforced strictly, this bans modern commerce.

    Therefore, it will not be enforced strictly. It will be enforced selectively.

    This is the kind of thing you come up with as a gift to government officials. The public reason is just an excuse. It is a beautiful setup for a graft. Pay the right folks the right amounts, no problems.

    1. Re:the rules are unrealistic and thus... by Lije+Baley · · Score: 2

      It's India, new rules just mean that some palms needs some extra greasing.

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    2. Re:the rules are unrealistic and thus... by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's commonly called bait and switch. They invited in foreign investment under corporate friendly rules and once sufficient foreign investment was bound, they altered the rules to give back advantage to local businesses, they got Darth Vadered https://www.youtube.com/watch?.... The rules will continue to change, until Indian businesses have replaced Amazon and Wallmart, oh yeah.

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  4. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem with datacenters in India is reliable power. My previous company had the notion several times, but the infrastructure makes that very difficult.

  5. Blame blame blame blame by Jahoda · · Score: 2

    Authoritarian populism has no other tools in its box.

    1. Re: Blame blame blame blame by Kokuyo · · Score: 2

      Better by what metric?

  6. Seems like sensible policies actually by atrex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These rules actually seem rather sensible to me.
    A) The prohibition against special discounts prevents either company from discounting their merchandise in an anti-competitive manner that would drive out local businesses.
    B) The prohibition against selling exclusive products makes it so that if Amazon wants to sell Echo and Fire devices in India, then they have to allow Indian resellers to stock and sell the products as well. The same would apply to any of their other private labels (like Amazon Basics). This prevents them from having a monopoly on sales of anything carrying their brand in India. This is sensible separation that should exist between Amazon's manufacturing business and it's internet storefront business.

    We've gotten so used to anti-monopolistic policies not being enforced in the US that we've forgotten what they even are. No company is supposed be allowed to become an Umbrella company that makes, sells and supplies everything.
    How much has Amazon's manufacturing arm benefited from the huge exposure platform provided by their storefront? I couldn't tell you the last time I went to Amazon's front page and didn't have a giant Fire or Echo ad shoved in my face.
    How many businesses has Walmart put under every time it moves into an area and used anti-competitive price structures built off of paying their employees the least amount possible along with the fewest benefits they can get away with?

    1. Re:Seems like sensible policies actually by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 2

      India already has an Umbrella company: Tata

  7. Re: declaration of economic war by sit1963nz · · Score: 2

    China-Japan trade is also high, https://www.bbc.com/news/world...

    The top export destinations of South Korea are China ($121B), the United States ($70.1B), https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en...

    https://vietnamnews.vn/economy...