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How One Merchandiser Lost $1M Trying to Monetize the 'Hamster Dance' Site (www.cbc.ca)

The CBC is marking the 20th anniversary of the notorious Hampsterdance web site with a 10,000-word oral history by arts reporter Leah Collins, promising "the twisted true story of one of the world's first memes."

An anonymous reader writes: Deidre LaCarte, a Canadian martial arts instructor, created the site as part of a contest between her friend and her sister to see whose site could attract the most visitors by December 31st, 1998. Deidre won -- then remembers later waking up to news crews at her front door asking about that web site she'd created that had become a worldwide phenomenon. Slashdot's CmdrTaco linked to the site on February 9th, 1999, and hundreds of millions of pageviews later the CBC traces the site's evolution into Hampsterdance -- the Album, which included the less-remembered rock song "Hampster Party." (Recorded under a pseudonym by The Boomtang Boys, it was described by the Onion A.V. Club as "the definitive hamster party anthem of the new millennium," in their year-end retrospective "Least Essential Albums of 2000.")

The CBC also interviewed members from a competing U.K. band that created knock-off versions of the site's hamster-y song for their own hit record, Cognoscenti vs. Intelligentsia. The Canadian hamster band enjoyed some popularity on Disney radio -- one song even became Hannah Montana's ringtone, and Britney Spears reportedly expressed an interest in recording their soulful hamster ballad, "Life is Good." Hallmark also says they ultimately used hampsterdance songs in over 100 different products. But whatever happened to the web site itself?

Bill Porfido, president of a merchandising firm called Abatis International, eventually purchased the site, and described the resulting disaster as "How one man sunk a million trying to turn the world's most annoying website into the biggest thing in kiddie entertainment." Failed monetization attempts included a cartoon series about a world-travelling "Hampster" band -- the official Hampsterdance.com site is still selling a DVD titled How The Hampsters Saved Winter. "One million dollars. It's almost a million, what we lost," Porfido complains, saying the site is now maintained by his old business partner, Brian Hoffman -- and adding "I haven't spoken to Brian in about three years, but I know he's tired of it."

But Porfido later admits that "even though it was a money sponge, I enjoyed every minute of it.

"People are like, 'Hampsterdance? That's you? That's you?!' It kind of gave you a little taste of fame even though it was -- bogus. (Laughs)."

62 comments

  1. Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what kind of person thinks a website called hamster dance is worth spending $1m on. Really come on here. They should be fired for no reason

    1. Re:Please by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      Probably the same kind of person that thought to try merchandising a simple mobile game with some cartoon birds and pigs. I wonder how much money Angry Birds merchandise has made. Sometimes big cultural phenomenon pay off, other times not.

    2. Re: Please by illiac_1962 · · Score: 0

      I just got reimed.

    3. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a guy on Slashdot that tries to monetize Funko Pop videos. :)

    4. Re: Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neh I am still lurking, you guys are too mean for me to post logged in.

    5. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris, check out fatcashewsloveme, flatcashewsloveme, a fat bastard, and tardeau_lardeau. I asked for these accounts to be deleted. For 2019 I won't bother you any more.
      Happy 2019!

    6. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chris is a survivor. He could make an interesting channel if he actually created content instead of broadcasting 100 test patterns.

      His video about his Dad's cancer was the only real, human video he's made. So there is hope in there somewhere.

    7. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget "The Star Wars" kid. I bet he wishes that he could forget...

    8. Re:Please by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      And what kind of person thinks a website called hamster dance is worth spending $1m on.

      Someone that doesn't understand that fads fade.

      When the news crews show up at the door, you are already at peak hamster.

      Also, it isn't 1999 anymore, so why does the site still require Flash?

    9. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His video about his Dad's cancer was the only real, human video he's made. So there is hope in there somewhere.

      That video only got 5 views since it was published in October. Why? It's not search friendly content. Unless you have an established audience, personal or vlog videos don't get views. The best way to build an audience on YouTube when you don't have one is to make search friendly content. Chris is currently averaging 75 view per day.

    10. Re:Please by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I listen to the song at least once a month. For the past 20 years. And I doubt I've been to the website other than the first time I heard about it here on slashdot.

      I can totally see losing $50k on it, because it has a cult following and it couldM/em> have value. But $1m?!

      I'd even say $10m would make more sense than $1m. You're not going to start a fad with $1m, and you don't need $1m to shoestring it. It should have been either highly funded, or minimally funded. The big mistake here is going medium.

    11. Re:Please by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      That was an existing game company that knew what they were doing and they spent the money to hype it.

      When they talk about software on cable newsvertainment channels, they were paid to. Twitter was totally mainstream before most people had ever heard of it; Ruby programmers knew about it before the hype train launched, but when they first started talking about it on the "news" it was a small site with just a few users. And they hadn't even turned it into "microblogging" yet, it was still asking the question, "What are you doing right now?" It was after they were already hyping it (hyping as a verb means to pay to have it talked about on newsvertainment) that they figured out what value the users found in it.

      Angry Birds was being hyped for something like 2 years. You don't do that for $1m.

    12. Re:Please by dohzer · · Score: 1

      One mili-dollar. That's not that much is it?!

  2. better investment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would have been xhamster.

    1. Re:better investment by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      They probably spend more than that just on hosting.

  3. IT clerk lost 1M$ as well.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And an IT clerk working in Palo Alto has lost 1M$ trying to monetize stupid videos, ebooks and haiku poems as well as spam posts in various forums.

    Would he have studied and got a better salary, he would be 1M$ richer. Instead, he is 200,000$ poorer with all the silly stuff he buys.

  4. Internet memes are highly local by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My teenage daughter is running into this all the time. She'll mention some bit of Internet ephemera to another person, who stares at her blankly. Just because some character or phrase or GIF has taken over your own corner of the Internet doesn't mean outsiders have heard about it.

    I've been around since before Eternal September, but I've never heard of Hamster Dance.

    1. Re: Internet memes are highly local by illiac_1962 · · Score: 2

      I learned about it only in 2011/2012. Some dumbass insisted I watch the video. A Windows admin of course, he was enamored with it and couldn't believe I had never heard of it. I forgot about it until now.

    2. Re: Internet memes are highly local by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Must have just been popular in my corner. I remember rediscovering it around the 00's. Probably learned about it in 2001, but I think it has been around as since Geocities days.

    3. Re: Internet memes are highly local by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      In various forms. The original is long-gone, but it's been mirrored both with and without authorization at various times.

  5. Creepy attempt by ugen · · Score: 1

    Those commercial "hampster" figures/images are poorly designed. They have nothing in common with plump silly original "hampsters". Seem like an attempt to make a figure look "sexy" or something. Very creepy. Whoever designed these should have asked actual children, may be.

    1. Re: Creepy attempt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah the actual children are a hell of a lot smarter and friendlier than some adults. I havenâ(TM)t visited that web site in years and I have zero desire to see what happened to it

    2. Re:Creepy attempt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why design fuckall in the first place, you unload the product purely by mechanism of OH LOOK IT'S THAT ONE THING, and the drive of I WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE THAT I HAVE A CONSUMER GOOD DERIVED OF A KNOWN PHENOMENON

      1) Blank product
      2) Add pop culture insignia
      3) Profit

      Oh, is HBO giving you grief? Drop their logo, make the shirt say "Wibbly Wobbly is coming." and the nu-geeks will drown you in money.

      It's a simple pleb fleecing, you don't need to commission a snazzy tardis drawing.

  6. © 1997 - 2014 Abraza, LLC. All Rights Reserve by twdorris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When a site falls behind on updating the copyright date in the footer, it's a sign things are over. When it's been nearly FIVE YEARS since they've updated the copyright date, it's LONG, LONG over. Definitely time to pull the plug on that thing.

  7. You never know. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "I can Haz Chesseburger" or whatever cat people are doing quite well.

    You never know what stupid shit hits big and makes money in this crazy society we have. There are too many people who don't have anything better to do with their disposable income.

  8. Annoying by datavirtue · · Score: 1

    Now I have that mutherfucking song stuck in my head again.

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    1. Re: Annoying by Monster_user · · Score: 2

      Disney's Robin Hoo, right? Probably why it would never be successfully monetized, they would have been sued out of existence!

    2. Re: Annoying by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      *Disney's Robin Hood. The opening theme.

    3. Re:Annoying by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      Not sure how you keep your nerd card if you're scared of earworms.

      I say that because I'm Henry the Eighth I am, Henry the Eighth I am I am.

    4. Re:Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bastard. :)

    5. Re:Annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how you keep your nerd card if you're scared of earworms.

      I say that because I'm Henry the Eighth I am, Henry the Eighth I am I am.

      It's too bad I'm out of mod points! : )

  9. and now I feel old by v1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    20th anniversary? ugh. I remember when that first came out, I showed it to everyone at work. There was no content, just that loud repeating song and these little figures twirling around on the entire page. It was like nothing we'd ever seen before. We were just wondering, "Is there a point to it?" "Are they tryin to send some kind of message?" Web pages were all just so literal back then, like nobody had realized you could just DO stuff to have fun, that there didn't HAVE to be a point to it. I think that's what made it so popular for its few day of fame.

    I also recall all those spinning characters really hurting the web browser and machine, like 100% CPU usage to get them good enough to only just stutter a little bit. Some of the computers couldn't handle it at all. But back then it was somewhat unusual to see ANY animation on a web page, let alone the entire page. And it didn't matter how big your monitor was, you could full-screen the window and it STILL filled the page with twirling hamsters.

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    1. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are only old if you remember the internet before Eternal September.

    2. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just imagine the abuse on your system if you tried visiting that old page in chrome.

    3. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hell, I remember bitnet, usenet, and dial-up BBSes. And time-shared systems accessed over Tymnet.

      Now you kids get off the grass.
      And pull up your pants while you're at it.

    4. Re: and now I feel old by Monster_user · · Score: 2

      20th Anniversay? YouTube cites circa 1997 for the hamster dance itself.

      Same video cites 2002 for a proper page. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=...

    5. Re: and now I feel old by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Nevermind, my math was off. Must be getting old, thought 20 years was more recent than the 90s...

    6. Re:and now I feel old by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      I still have a copy of the original web site. No idea why I have keep it all that time.

    7. Re:and now I feel old by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Do you remember trying to get porn pics from usenet by grabbing 20 consecutive files and splicing them all together? Good times...

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    8. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you remember trying to get porn pics from usenet by grabbing 20 consecutive files and splicing them all together? Good times...

      ASCII porn or it aint real! Oh wait...

    9. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good times indeed. Good ol' alt.binaries

    10. Re:and now I feel old by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      It's also been archived into IPFS.
      https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmT85wMjW...

    11. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember those. I remember Compu$erve. I remember having to put a note on the telephone on the wall to let everyone else know not to pick it up while I was dialing up a BBS. I was a little bit popular for a while, as my Apple ][e had dual floppy discs, so we could copy floppies quickly. Carefully cutting a notch on the opposite side, so we could take a chance and use the backside of the floppy, too.

      I remember using punch cards in freshman college programming class. Learning machine code for the 8088.

      I remember lots of things. But I'd managed to forget that fucking Hamster Dance song, and now it'll be in my head for months!

    12. Re:and now I feel old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember using punch cards in freshman college programming class. Learning machine code for the 8088.

      At university my computer science course involved programming 8088 processors by directly entering hex opcodes on a very primitive one-line display terminal. I 'cheated' by using my own TRS-80 model III + assembler to generate the hex opcodes/data rather than doing manual assembly (making sure to stick to the 8088 subset of the Z-80 opcodes).

  10. Le by Tsolias · · Score: 1

    sad merchant

  11. Still Eternal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it still Eternal September, or can we say that facebook and mobile has taken them away?

  12. Re: © 1997 - 2014 Abraza, LLC. All Rights Res by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Which is why you have JavaScript update the footer year.

  13. Didah-dee-dah-ditty-do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Deeeee-dah-ditty-do dididitty-a-ditty-a-ditty-a-dee. Hahahahaha.

  14. This is a last ditch effort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By whomever owns the site to generate revenue and rekindle interest in the website.

    By submitting it as "NEWS" to slashdot!

  15. Re:© 1997 - 2014 Abraza, LLC. All Rights Rese by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

    Could be worse. With a bit of Y2K-bugged javascript it could say © 1997 - 118.

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  16. Mobile links from an editor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you not check you posts EditorDavid before you hit the button?

  17. Re: © 1997 - 2014 Abraza, LLC. All Rights Res by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    And then I disable Javascript and the site is public domain... :-)

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  18. I heard this one guy paid $1M for Slashdot.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard this one guy paid $1M for Slashdot.org

  19. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONSEQUENCES NAZI KEN DOLL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR LIES AND PROPAGANDA NAZI FAGGOT KEN DOLL

    Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

  20. Hampster? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    It's a rodent made of wicker that you can put things inside?

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  21. Song by dohzer · · Score: 1

    There was a website? I thought it was just some crappy song.

  22. Hampsterdance 2 on Youtube by twosat · · Score: 1

    Hampton the Hamster "The Hamsterdance Song" https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  23. Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When are people going to learn "monetize" does NOT mean "to make money from." It means to literally use as money.

  24. Disney by Waccoon · · Score: 1

    I always wondered if Disney ever got involved in a lawsuit regarding the merchandise. The original Hamster Dance song is nothing more than a sped-up sound clip from the animated version of Robin Hood.