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Vermont Will Give You $10K If You Move There and Work Remotely (fastcompany.com)

If you've been dreaming of moonlight in Vermont -- and getting a re-location subsidy -- "the time has come to make your maple-syrup-coated dreams a reality," reports Fast Company: [F]or those who relocate this year and can prove that they have full-time remote jobs, it's possible to get paid back for moving expenses, internet bills, or membership in a coworking space... The program offers up to $5,000 a year for two years. For the state, the program is one way to try to address its shrinking population. "We're the second-to-smallest state in the nation, and we're also getting older, so we really need to make sure there's more of a workforce here," says Joan Goldstein, commissioner of the Vermont Department of Economic Development, which is running the Remote Worker Grant Program. The entire state has a population of a little more than 600,000, roughly the size of Louisville, Kentucky.

Vermont also recognized that a growing number of Americans work remotely -- nearly two-thirds of companies today have remote workers, and one recent survey found that hiring managers think it will continue to become even more common -- and that many city dwellers elsewhere are struggling with rent on increasingly overpriced apartments... The median home value in Brattleboro, roughly two hours from Boston, is less than $200,000; a one-bedroom apartment a short walk from the local co-op (and a small coworking space) goes for $850 a month.

The budget for 2019 is $125,000, and will be given out "on a first come, first served basis."

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  1. Pipeline by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a few questions:

    1) is there surfing in Vermont?
    2) will I have to wear socks when I go outside in December?
    3) is pot legal?

    If you can't answer "yes" to all three of these questions, it's going to take more than $10k to get me to go there.

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    You are welcome on my lawn.
    1. Re:Pipeline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if you're from California:

      - The ground doesn't wiggle.
      - It rains. They have water.
      - There are trees and grass.

      I thought pot was illegal under US law but legal under various state laws. "Legal uncertainty" never fun.

      If, however, you're from Vancouver... It's cheaper to live (aside from health insurance). Hard to come up with other advantages, though.

    2. Re:Pipeline by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Informative

      1) Yes, they have the internet there.
      2) You don't have to wear them, but you probably should.
      3) Yes, as of earlier this year.

    3. Re:Pipeline by dex22 · · Score: 2

      ...and they'll get it all back in state income taxes.

    4. Re:Pipeline by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They only have enough budgeted to pay 12 people

      This is THE WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD WORK. You come up with an idea, and then you run a small pilot project to make sure it actually works and is cost effective. Then, and only then, do you scale it up.

    5. Re:Pipeline by hey! · · Score: 3, Funny

      1) is there surfing in Vermont?
      2) will I have to wear socks when I go outside in December?
      3) is pot legal?

      If you can't answer "yes" to all three of these questions, it's going to take more than $10k to get me to go there.

      1) Yes, but they do it on frozen water and call it "snowboarding".
      2) No. It's a good idea, but nobody is forcing you to.
      3) Yes, it's legal to light up in the privacy of your own home, but you'll have to go across the border to Massachusetts to buy.

      Since that's 2 out of the required 3 "yes" answers, I guess Vermont isn't for you, although I have no idea why you'd want to be compelled to wear socks. Maybe that's for a family member?

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    6. Re: Pipeline by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Vermont is possibly the most awesome state to live in within the continental US actually. I've lived in several states including CA, NH, MA, AL, FL, GA, et. Al so I feel like I have a well rounded taste of what is available.

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      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    7. Re:Pipeline by rmdingler · · Score: 2
      Vermont, like many places with mostly rural populations since farm work became mechanized, is burdened with youth flight to more urban population centers.

      $5000 per year, though, may not be enough to sway many folks, although this story got a lot of free publicity.

      Perhaps they should instead offer scholarships to State colleges in exchange for X years of local service, similar to what the military does.

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      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

  2. $125,000 budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    that extra 25 people every two years is really going to make a difference.

  3. Re:Man, this takes me back by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Informative

    If I recall, the Free State Project was trying to get people to move to New Hampshire, not Vermont. I don't think they were offering to pay anyone to move either.

  4. Re:12.5 people? by novakyu · · Score: 2

    Is that a typo? Because that only covers 12.5 people, which doesn't sound newsworthy.

    Don't be silly. It's for 25 people, since the grant is $5000/year, renewable for one additional year. It's twice as newsworthy as you thought.

  5. Hey, it's my state by sremick · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not often I get to see Vermont in the news. Yay. I'm a multi-generational native (yes, my family makes maple syrup).

    In the hopes of dispelling some myths and inaccurate stereotypes, I'm happy to answer questions. I happen to live in a tiny ( under 4000) rural town, and on top of that, on the outskirts of it. Despite that I have 50/25 Mbit DSL. If I lived in the center of town I'd have the option for 100Mbit, 500Mbit, or even 1GBit FttH. So being rural doesn't necessarily mean junk internet... although it can, so check before you move.

    In under an hour I can be in Vermont's largest "city" (Burlington). If I need a proper city experience, in just about 2.5 hours I can be in Montreal which honestly I enjoy a lot more than our next-closest big city, Boston. The border isn't an issue, since living near the border makes it easy to get a NEXUS card, which is basically fast-lane across the border for $50/5y and includes PSA pre-check at airports and Global Entry.

    Yes, we have farms and cows and cheese and maple syrup and all that. We also have kick-ass skiing and lots of other great outdoor activities. Oh, and if you're not used to it: NO BILLBOARDS. It can be quite the pleasant shock for those new to the area... and jarring for us natives when we travel outside of the state.

    The communities can be quite tight which is a nice thing... you really get to know the people in your area, and feel less anonymous than living in a city. People are quite generous and helpful with all sorts of things. Towns love to put on gatherings and events that bring everyone out for some reason or another. There's amazing food, and the proliferation of farms provides no shortage of fresh, high-quality produce and meat if you like to cook (or even if you don't, the better restaurants will use the local farms. Some BnB's even have their own gardens). People really care about the environment here... organic farming, trees, conservation, recycling, renewable energy, etc. Heck, even my house produces more solar power than I consume. You can find many die-hards who are truly "off the grid", self-sufficient and doing the whole homesteading thing. There's even a yearly festival/event/gathering called Solar Fest (not just about solar) if you're really into that.

    Older crowd can be a bit conservative (not all, plenty of ex-hippies and all that... we're the source of Ben & Jerry's, Bernie Sanders, Bill McKibben, et al) but the younger generations lean strongly liberal. We currently have a republican governor but oh well... our Lieutenant Governor is progressive/democrat so he keeps him in line.

    Home prices are all over the place, depending on where you live. You can get a sub-$100K home all the way up to multi-million dollar mansions (I know of a $10M one specifically). Places like Shelburne, Charlotte, and a few others with properties on Lake Champlain are popular with rich active/retired doctors, lawyers, and 2nd vacation homes for crazy rich people elsewhere.

    So yes, worth considering. Questions? Ask and I can try to help.

  6. Jobs by raymorris · · Score: 2

    What's "wrong" with Vermont is that they'd like to have more jobs attracting people there. Rather than trying to attract more companies, they've decided to try to attract people like me, who can take our jobs with us wherever we want to go.

    That's an interesting idea because they don't have to provide infrastructure for the company headquarters, but they get us spending our money in Vermont. Essentially they would be exporting tech work to the rest of the country. It's an interesting idea. We'll see how it turns out.

  7. Re:Too pricey by msk · · Score: 2

    Even if true, $10K is not nearly enough to get me to uproot myself and my spouse, pay _more_ for housing than I do now, and put up with harsher winters. Two orders of magnitude more would be a _start_.

  8. Commute by bagofbeans · · Score: 2

    I'd move to Verrrrrrrmont (it's cold!) rather than commute from San Jose to Palo Alto.