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Fukushima Nuclear Disaster: Prosecutors Request Prison Time For Executives (npr.org)

Long-time Slashdot reader reporter shared this article from NPR: The former chairman and two vice presidents of the Tokyo Electric Power Co. should spend five years in prison over the 2011 flooding and meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, Japanese prosecutors say, accusing the executives of failing to prevent a foreseeable catastrophe. Prosecutors say the TEPCO executives didn't do enough to protect the nuclear plant, despite being told in 2002 that the Fukushima facility was vulnerable to a tsunami....

"It was easy to safeguard the plant against tsunami, but they kept operating the plant heedlessly," prosecutors said on Wednesday, according to The Asahi Shimbun. "That led to the deaths of many people." Former TEPCO Chairman Tsunehisa Katsumata, 78; former Vice President Ichiro Takekuro, 72; and former Vice President Sakae Muto, 68, face charges of professional negligence resulting in death and injury....

All three have pleaded not guilty in Tokyo District Court, saying they could not have predicted the tsunami.

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  1. No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except the guys who predicted the tsunami back in 2002, when they told you the place was vulnerable to a tsunami. Which they have a lot of in Japan.

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    1. Re:No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once upon a time I read Atlas Shrugged. It seemed so poorly written, as the political and industrial leaders seemed like such simple caricatures. But more and more I see examples of exactly those behaviors in real life.

      Rand's cartoonishly incompetent industrial leaders would blame failures of heavy industry on the weather. "No one could have predicted that storm! We're doing all we can after the fact." Left unsaid was that bad storms (or in this case tsunamis) are certain to happen eventually, and it's your job to be ready for them.

      And here we see it in real life, with these guys defending themselves with "no one could have predicted that specific tsunami, all we could do was manage the disaster afterwards". You know, when you start sounding like a villain from an Ayn Rand novel, maybe you should hire different lawyers, as it's hard to do worse than that.

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    2. Re:No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except for Rand the corporate owners were not villains. The government trying to regulate and protect the citizens was the villain as well as anyone with social consciousness.
      Rand glorified the dog eat dog capitalism. She was too naive to think that people can raise upon merit.

    3. Re:No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by doom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Claiming that "nobody" was affected by the radiation would be hard to prove, even if you excluded the workers at the plant-- on the other hand, there was an intense amount of alarmism surrounding the Fukushima incident, and that has essentially turned out to be completely wrong. Democracy Now was running "worse than Chernobyl" headlines; for years afterwards I was tyring to convince people in the SF Bay Area that they really and truly weren't going to die because of leakage in Japan...

      What did kill people at Fukushima was an evacutation panic. If you're anti-nuclear, you think "well of course, nuclear is inherently scary!", if you're pro-nuclear, you wonder why no one ever holds the anti-nuclear side accountable for their fear-mongering...

    4. Re:No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you had an even rudimentary understanding of radiation risk and the types of cancers and the typical onset patterns, you'd know that this cancer was almost certainlyl not from Fukushima radiation. There are plenty of articles that explain how this was just some lawyers and politicians following a liability rule, and there were no medical professionals who made this attribution. In fact there are no doctors at all that attribute this to Fukushima radiation.

      Basically, the law says anyone who worked at Fukushima and gets cancer, they will attribute it to the plant no matter what.

      The foremost expert in field has explicitly explained why this was not based on science.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/09/06/top-scientist-says-japans-decision-to-financially-reward-fukushima-worker-is-not-based-on-science/#2d6ba6e56a55

      But the public is easily misled, as are the media lemmings who copy en-masse without any thought. You can be one of them if you choose.

    5. Re:No One Could Have Predicted the Tsunami by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If an electrical fault from a faulty appliance burns your house down (but nobody dies because you got out in time), your focus would be on how you don't have a house anymore, not on how nobody died. If your friend kept telling you "But nobody died!, so no big deal!", and ignored your house, you'd want to punch him in the face.

      It's just very, very suspicious that all the pro-nuclear people want to talk about is how nobody died in Fukushima, but never seem to mention the 30,000 people who lost their house, business, not to mention the billions of dollars it cost.

      You seem to be focusing in on all the initial over-reaction to the incident, but want to ignore the real problems here. I don't think having to abandon little chunks of the planet for 100 years when one of these things melts is really a good outcome for nuclear power. I'm not terribly comforted by how it wasn't as bad as people's worst imaginations.

  2. In the US by DaMattster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Senior management in the US should be held to the same standards and should go to prison for white collar crimes that they commit. Wealth and position should never be a get out of jail card.

  3. Re:"The deaths of so many people" by cirby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I find it fascinating how people, when confronted by those silly things called "facts," respond with non-sequiturs.

    The actual Fukushima death toll is still zero, no matter how much you hate capitalism.

  4. Re:It's About Time. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The entire Fukushima Disaster was more a disaster because it was entirely preventable. Whether is is malfeasance or nonfeasance it is plainly criminal because it is quite plainly negligence.

    This disaster illustrates the fatal flaw of nuclear power generation.

    It isn't the plants themselves. A nuc plant can be made pretty safe. The problem is humans.

    Everything that happened in Fukushima was preventable. From the siting to the design to the seawalls to the back-up system.

    But we have deadlines, finances, hubris, corruption and stupidity.

    My research on the disaster included a "how could this have been avoided" section. After noting the freely available historical and physical evidence was ignored, it was clear that the site beside the ocean was one of the worst siting options. Further it was possible to come up with a much better site in a few minutes. Along a river, above the historic Tsunami height lines, and therefore much safer.

    Why this didn't happen, why seawalls were built that were a dead lock to be overwashed was not the fault of nuclear power, but the results of humans being in charge of it. And it is foolish to think that all nuc plants except Chernobyl and Fukushima or TMI have non-corrupt humans involved.

    It all comes to a shitload of energy packed in a small space. With not only kaboom aspects, but using poisonous materials that will take a long time to mitigate if it does go kaboom.

    Nuc power can be made safe. History shows us that it is impossible to make humans safe.

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  5. Re:"The deaths of so many people" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    According to the WHO and Japanese gouvernment, the direct death toll of the Fukushima disaster was: Zero. https://ourworldindata.org/wha...

    The indirect results from radiation related issues and evacuation stress was not zero, but I find it hard to argue that the executives are directly responsible for the deaths of so many people. The tsunami itself caused tremendous devastation and evacuation was a given, with or without the nuclear plant there.

    Don't even wonder why the general citizenry doesn't trust the pro-nuc clan. You are the personification of why.

    Do a little research as to exactly why there was no other outcome but catastrophic failure for the Fukushima site.

    All human decisions that from a safety, standpoint are inexplicable outside of straightforward explanation that there was corruption involved.

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  6. Re: "The deaths of so many people" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Are you seriously that stupid or are you trolling for the anti-Nike side? Itâ(TM)s fucking incredible the level of reality and logic disconnect in your statement.

    You still illustrate exactly why people think that nuc people ar as trustable as Jerry Sandusky around ten year old boys. Allow me to explain.

    You (apparently) and many of the pro nuc crowd meet every criticism be calling the person who has the nerve to question any aspect as stupid, detached form reality, and illogical. When in fact, I am not anti-nuc. I consider you the enemy from within. The pro nuc person who systematically destroys the credibility by acting like a smug asshole. When in fact, all you offer for disasters like Chernobyl and Fukushima is bullshit like "It won't happen again, New reactors are perfectly safe" or "Not one single person was killed.

    And then they get to see what happened at those sites. It's like looking at the reactors in Fukushima exploding aznd you seem to think that people are wanting to get that at home."

    And all you offer in return is derision and calling them stupid. When in fact you are indeed seeing a weird sort of stupidity that masquerades as smug superiority - It is your reflection in the mirror. You harm what you profess to support. Nuc Energy has a terrible P.R. Problem, and you only make it worse.

    Come back and discuss when you aren't a weak troll, because you are helping make those who you consider the enemy's case.

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