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A Journey Into the Solar System's Outer Reaches, Seeking New Worlds To Explore (nytimes.com)

NASA's New Horizons spacecraft will visit a tiny and mysterious object in the Kuiper belt on Tuesday, seeking clues to the formation of our cosmic neighborhood. From a report: In June 1983, newspaper headlines declared that NASA's Pioneer 10 spacecraft had left the solar system, crossing beyond the orbit of Neptune. It was the common view of the time: All of the solar system's big, interesting things -- the sun and the nine planets -- were behind Pioneer 10. Thirty-five years later, the Kuiper belt -- the region Pioneer 10 was just entering -- and the spaces beyond are perhaps the most fascinating parts of the solar system. In their vast, icy reaches are clues about how the sun and planets, including ours, coalesced out of gas and dust 4.5 billion years ago. Even farther out might be bodies the size of Mars or Earth, or even a larger one some astronomers call Planet Nine, and technological advances could usher in a new age of planetary discovery.

On Tuesday, New Horizons, the NASA spacecraft that snapped spectacular photographs of Pluto in 2015, will provide humanity with a close-up of one of these mysterious, distant and tiny icy worlds. Its target of exploration is believed to be just 12 to 22 miles wide, known as 2014 MU69 -- its designation in the International Astronomical Union's catalog of worlds -- or Ultima Thule, the nickname bestowed upon it by the New Horizons team. This will be the farthest object ever visited by a spacecraft. New Horizons will speed past Ultima Thule at 31,500 miles per hour and pass within 2,200 miles of the surface. What the probe finds could reveal much about the earliest days of the solar system and what else lies in the Kuiper belt.

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  1. umm by Swampash · · Score: 0, Troll

    New Horizons will speed past Ultima Thule at 31,500 miles per hour and pass within 2,200 miles of the surface

    what's that in units that make sense?

    1. Re: umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Units are in big sucking sounds coming from space suits all over the world

    2. Re:umm by sheramil · · Score: 2, Informative

      New Horizons will speed past Ultima Thule at about 14.6 m/s and pass within about 3,660 km of the surface.

    3. Re: umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can look up mile to km conversion yourself. But in terms of "really fast" and "really far" units, it's "very very" relative to Earth life and "insignificant" relative to intergalactic life.

    4. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will driving 31.5 miles and hour past a city that is 2.2 miles away.

    5. Re:umm by AndyKron · · Score: 1

      I use Convert version 4.08 by Joshua F. Madison copyright 1996-98. https://joshmadison.com/conver...

    6. Re:umm by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those units do make sense - it just isn’t in your preferred system of measurement.

      It’s not as if the article said New Horizons made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs.

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    7. Re:umm by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      I saw a sign on the news about Brexit. They were talking about the border, and the sign said "Welcome to Northern Ireland, all speed limits are in miles per hour." I'm glad Great Britain switched to the metric system back in the '70s.

    8. Re:umm by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Informative

      New Horizons will speed past Ultima Thule at about 14.1 km/s and pass within about 3,540 km of the surface.

      FTFY. Note in particular that it's km/s not m/s. You drive your car around your neighbourhood at about 14 m/s.

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    9. Re:umm by Solandri · · Score: 1

      If what other people say and do really bothers you, do something which solves the problem. Simply install an extension which auto-converts Imperial units to metric. You will never have to see Imperial units in your browser again.

    10. Re:umm by Swampash · · Score: 0

      This chart shows you how they 'make sense'

      https://static.boredpanda.com/...

    11. Re:umm by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Even worse are variants depending on what you measure: nautical inch vs avoirdupois inch, dry vs wet vs slightly moist gallon.

      Q: There's a straight road surveyed as 100 miles long. At one end, there's a car going 100mph, and a plane also going 100mph. After one hour, where will they be?
      A: The plane will be past the road's end (somehow aircraft speed is measured in sea miles even above land), the car won't make it yet as car speeds are in land miles which are shorter than survey miles.

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    12. Re:umm by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      The tired old metric flame again? Seriously? *YAWN*

      There are two types of countries in the world: those who use the metric system, and those whose flag is on the moon.

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    13. Re:umm by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      This tired old "flag on the moon" flame again? Sorry to bust your bubble, but I'm pretty sure that both the USSR and China use(d) the metric system as well. Not sure about the Lunakhod rovers, they may have just have the "CCCP" text, but Chang'e 3 definitely had the Chinese flag on the side.

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    14. Re: umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah it isnâ(TM)t like nobody is shoving imperial units in your ugly face

    15. Re:umm by Ross+Finlayson · · Score: 1

      New Horizons will speed past Ultima Thule at about 14.6 m/s...

      No, you're off by 3 orders of magnitude. 31,500 miles per hour is 14 km/s

    16. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to care about metric, but everyone has a calculator in their pocket now.
      The US can stick with imperial, and the world can stick with metric, and no one has to be inconvenienced by anyone else.

    17. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even worse are variants depending on what you measure: nautical inch vs avoirdupois inch, dry vs wet vs slightly moist gallon.

      Q: There's a straight road surveyed as 100 miles long. At one end, there's a car going 100mph, and a plane also going 100mph. After one hour, where will they be?
      A: The plane will be past the road's end (somehow aircraft speed is measured in sea miles even above land), the car won't make it yet as car speeds are in land miles which are shorter than survey miles.

      The plane could travel in any direction, so could be pretty much anywhere within 100 miles or so. Windspeed, earth rotation, yadda yadda yadda.

      You just said mph, so the plane would likely be going the same speed as the car. If you want nautical miles per hour instead of statute miles per hour, you should have said 100 knots.

      If I said it was travelling 100m/s, you can't say "it's measured in knots, so it's going 100 knots".

    18. Re: umm by Mspangler · · Score: 1

      Nautical miles are actually more logical than kilometers, since the French messed up the calculation to get the meter.

      What does make sense is that 1 liter of water has mass of 1 kg, and a thousand of these makes up 1 cubic meter. It's too bad a calorie and a joule didn't come out to the same value. That would make life even better.

    19. Re:umm by kenai_alpenglow · · Score: 1

      Google is your friend. You can even ask Siri to convert to your preferred units of choice if you're that bored on a long commute.

    20. Re:umm by ch0knuti · · Score: 1

      I thought that the engineers used metric? I know that the U.S. military does. It's just the general population.

    21. Re:umm by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      The bootprints on the moon are measured in US sizes.

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    22. Re:umm by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      You seriously intentionally misunderstood the meaning of "flag"? As in, the flag. As in an actual flag, not a print on the side of an unmanned spacecraft. Jeez, really scraping here. Just stop with the metric flame, it's such a tired old meme by now. So predictable.

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    23. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know why the meme is so old?

      Because you three countries (USA, Burma, Liberia) are taking sooooo long to switch... just modernise, already! Geez.

    24. Re:umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No need to be mean to the US about their quaint affection for an out-dated system of measurement. We should be thankful that they've finally stopped using cubits.

    25. Re:umm by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Three and a half. The UK seems to be hedging its bets. Beer is in pints but diesel is in litres, and don't get me started about plumbing.

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    26. Re: umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, those boot prints are about 50 years old now. Current thinking is that the solar wind does, in fact, move lunar dust around through electrostatic forces. So the footprints are quite possibly completely gone.

      As for the glory of imperial units in space travel, didnâ(TM)t the US manage to crash a probe into the side of Mars due to imperial units?

    27. Re:umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      pass within 2,200 miles of the surface ...

      what's that in units that make sense?

      Does not really matter ... sounds like a solid hit to me.

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    28. Re:umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      The airplane has to "navigate".
      A nautical mile is the "natural size" (or part of it) of the planet. Anything else than nautical miles make no sense for navigating either planes or ships.
      But a car has a road ... so the measurement of the distance can be arbitrary.

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    29. Re: umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      It's too bad a calorie and a joule didn't come out to the same value. That would make life even better.
      Calories actually come from that value. Increase the temperature of 1 liter of water from 14.5 degrees C to 15.5 Cis equivalent to one kilo Calorie.

      And what exactly have the french to do with it? Oh, they keep the "meter" and the "kg" in a "museum" ... why are you blaming them for that?

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    30. Re:umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Hm, AFAIK distances and speeds in UK are still miles and mp/h ....

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    31. Re:umm by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      A nautical mile is the "natural size" (or part of it) of the planet. Anything else than nautical miles make no sense for navigating either planes or ships.

      And why exactly would one kind of mile be better for navigation than, let's say, nanolightyear (which fits among the range of historical miles)? A nautical mile has no upsides above any other arbitrary unit, but has the downside of making calculations hard when dealing with any other unit. The value of metrication is not in the metre being somehow better, but in ease of dealing with bigger and smaller metric units.

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    32. Re:umm by mcswell · · Score: 1

      "the car won't make it yet as car speeds are in land miles which are shorter than survey miles": Huh? Are you saying the survey miles are measured through the earth, as opposed to over its surface?

    33. Re: umm by mcswell · · Score: 1

      I believe that what he meant was that the meter was originally supposed to be defined relative to the size of the earth: on ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole. It was later re-defined.

    34. Re:umm by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      "statute" ("land", "international" (heh)) mile: 1.609344 km; "survey" mile: 1.609347 km. Sea miles had different sizes until late 20th century before coalescing into 1.852 km. You get an error of over 15% if you say just "mile" without specifying what kind of mile you mean.

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    35. Re: umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      originally supposed to be defined relative to the size of the earth: on ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole
      Oh, thanx. I never heard about that.
      The redefinition however did not change its length, only the base on which it is defined.

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    36. Re:umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Why don't you simply google what a nautical mile is?

      Sigh ...

      The value of metrication is not in the metre being somehow better, but in ease of dealing with bigger and smaller metric units.
      Or in angles? Perhaps? Being able to make simple calculations in your mind? This is the position of Greenwich: 51.48ÂN 0.00ÂE. What is the coordinates 100 nautical miles north? What is it south? What is the _approximated_ position 100 nautical miles west or east?

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    37. Re:umm by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      What is the coordinates 100 nautical miles north? What is it south? What is the _approximated_ position 100 nautical miles west or east?

      Depends on where you are. Newsflash: no matter how Mercator would wish, Earth is not a cylinder. Nor even a ball. At least no one seriously considers calculating west-east position in miles, but for north-south, there's indeed that temptation. And errors are big enough to make any navigation that'd use miles dangerous. You want your plane to land on the airport rather than somewhere the next city.

      Miles were useful for 16th century navigation when the winds drifted you so much that you had to see where you are upon reaching land anyway. They are useless today. So is their associated Comic-Sans-of-map-projections.

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    38. Re:umm by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      So we are all lucky that you are not sailing a ship or commanding an airplane ...

      And errors are big enough to make any navigation that'd use miles dangerous.
      Err... no?

      At least no one seriously considers calculating west-east position in miles
      Between 70degrees north and 70degrees south: everyone does that. Actually we do it all over the planet, but if you get closer to the poles you can not do simple math in your mind anymore.

      Will my wondering ever cease why people talk about stuff they have no clue about?

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    39. Re:umm by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      Nope, I know full well what the saw is about and the literal intent of the statement. You apparently missed the sarcasm over the implied irony in mine over your use of one tired old saw to dismiss another though. Still, while we're on the topic:

      Liberia and Myanmar also still officially use the imperial system and neither have even launched a space probe, let alone put a flag on the moon, so the statement is actually demonstrably false as a logical construct.
      Notes from multiple European engineers on the various early NASA space projects show that they used the metric system for calculations and drawings, at least in part, so it wasn't just the Imperial system that ultimately got Apollo to the moon. (Given how that hybrid usage worked out for the Mars Climate Orbiter, it would be quite interesting to know how many measurement system conversion errors were caught due to NASA's diligence of checking everything multiple times, but alas that data point doesn't seem to have been recorded, at least not in any public source I've found.)
      The US - like the rest of the world - uses metric for pretty much everything connected with STEM or that matters that isn't entirely contained within its own borders, and much of the stuff that is besides. For its part, NASA ostensibly transitioned to metric around 1990, although some imperial usage does persist, most notably on the ISS, and made it official in 2007. The only real difference compared to the legacy usage in the UK is that at least the US didn't bother to make metric official before deciding to pick and mix.

      Really, *both* the metric vs. imperial saws are stale, wrong, and need to die.

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  2. Nine planets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    We only have eight? Is this a science article or fiction?

    1. Re: Nine planets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is real news. The aliens welcome pioneer 10 to their domain. Aliens have waited for a long time for their very own pioneer

    2. Re:Nine planets? by Escogido · · Score: 1

      >It was the common view of the time: All of the solar system's big, interesting things -- the sun and the nine planets -- were behind Pioneer 10.

      At the time, i.e. in June 1983, there were nine astral bodies considered planets. I'm fairly sure whoever wrote the article put that sentence in there as a bait.

    3. Re:Nine planets? by WCMI92 · · Score: 0

      I still think of them as 9. I don't recognize the authority of an arbitrary body to vote Pluto to not be a planet when it was such for most of a century.

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    4. Re: Nine planets? by jd · · Score: 2

      Most planetary scientists and many astronomers regard Pluto as a planet.

      Even those that don't expect to find an Earth-sized planet in the Kuipier belt.

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    5. Re:Nine planets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a moron, not a mind. Nobody cares what you think.

    6. Re:Nine planets? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      when it was such for most of a century.

      So was Ceres, wasn't it?

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    7. Re: Nine planets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who knows how many planets are in the kuyper belt. I dont think anyone ever thought to really look. It could hold hundreds or thousands of planets for all we know

    8. Re:Nine planets? by meglon · · Score: 1

      I'm going to guess that whoever wrote the article knows the oft forgotten fact that because of Pluto's orbit eccentricity, it moves closer to the sun than Neptune for a portion of that orbit.... or is at least pointing out that planetary scientists at that time knew that. The date given, June 1983, is within that last window (from Feb. 7th, 1979 to Feb 11th,1999, Pluto was the eighth planet and Neptune was the ninth).

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    9. Re:Nine planets? by Zocalo · · Score: 1

      Yes, along with Pallas, Juno, Vesta. In total 37 asteroids were assigned planetary symbols, although astronomers realised these were not actually "proper" planets about 50 years after Ceres was first identified and recategorised them.

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  3. Something not mentioned by quonset · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because the con artist shut down the government, or at least part of it, only essential personnel at NASA will be on duty when the flyby happens.

    "During the Shutdown Furlough, you will be in a nonpay, nonduty status. During this time, you will not be permitted to serve NASA as an unpaid volunteer. You must remain away from your worksite, and may not work at home, in another location, or participate in events hosted by non-NASA entities in your official capacity like speeches or speakers bureau engagements, unless and until recalled."

    This also affects another NASA flyby the same day:

    The shutdown also means NASA has had to turn to another contractor lab, the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory at the University of Arizona in Tucson, to document when another space agency probe, OSIRIS-REx, goes into orbit around the asteroid Bennu, another milestone scheduled for New Year's Eve. NASA TV will similarly cover those announcements, according to Bridenstine.

    Someone I know from another site has a niece whose husband works at NASA and is a big supporter of the con artist. He's taking a little bit of pleasure knowing the guy won't be around for the momentous occasion and won't get to see it until afterwards. Nor is he getting paid and won't get a pay raise next year.

    1. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shadenfreude...

    2. Re: Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nothing for them to do but sit around in politically correct tee shirts anyway.

    3. Re: Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im with ya... or in other words damn skippy

    4. Re:Something not mentioned by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      All we need is a border wall, the same as so many other countries. It's not that hard to do. Compared to what we spend on wars, it's a pittance.

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    5. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The entire mission is run by private organizations (JHU-APL does ops, SwRI does analysis). Sorry to hear about the NASA guy on furlough though, real bummer.

    6. Re:Something not mentioned by barakn · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're confused about the meaning of the word "need."

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    7. Re:Something not mentioned by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Congratulations on the coinage.
      Shadenfreude, n. Being happy that you're not in direct sunlight.

    8. Re: Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can it have an aluminum post at each end? The one in Texas should say California and the one in California should say texas

    9. Re:Something not mentioned by ZombieCatInABox · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't your Pedophile In Chief make Mexico pay for it ? Isn't that what he campained on ?

      I'll tell you why: Because Trump is full of shit, like everyone who ever lived even just one second on planet Earth anytime within the past 50 years already knows, or should know.

    10. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One person is not responsible for the den of incompetence which we call "the government". The Legislative branch of government continually try to push the blame onto the Executive branch and hope people will not notice that the Executive branch of the government doesn't have the power needed to create all the problems faced today. And both sides of the political divide are equally responsible for the giant clusterfuck we see today. Immigration, taxes, civil rights, and the national budget are just a few areas where the Legislative branch is in total control and not the Executive branch. The only thing a President can do is issue Presidential orders which bypass Congress but can be challenged and overridden by the legislative branch. Are best hope is for the current shutdown to continue long enough to show the public how unnecessary the federal government is. The federal government has already usurped powers from the state governments. The original Founders wanted strong state governments and a subordinate Federal government. The first 2 Amendments provided the public with the power of free speech the federal government could not stop and the 2nd Amendment was put in place just in case the federal government had a problem with the 1st Amendment. Unfortunately today's public has hobbled free speech without needing any help from the federal government while simultaneously trying to surrender the only means of really fighting a government out of control.

    11. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's taking a little bit of pleasure knowing the guy won't be around for the momentous occasion and won't get to see it until afterwards.

      He enjoys wasting tax payers money and investments, in other words. It may turn out that the real problem with Trump is not himself but his supporters. Lets hope NASA will be able to make a comprehensive press event about the flyby after the shutdown is past. Hopefully there is somebody taking in that Parker data as well for the same effect.

    12. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All we need is a border wall, the same as so many other countries. It's not that hard to do. Compared to what we spend on wars, it's a pittance.

      Make it a dome, to keep all your pollution in.

    13. Re:Something not mentioned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Border protection used to be strongly supported by both parties. It wasn't until you and many others caught severe TDS that now you're willing to sell out your country, while listening to mainstream propaganda, and embracing ever greater evil because it opposes Trump.

    14. Re:Something not mentioned by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      Bullshit.
      Border walls lost support when the problems of stealing peoples lands to build it pushed the cost into the stratosphere.
      There are still 85 active cases from that time in the courts.

      https://nordic.businessinsider.com/trump-border-wall-mexico-texas-private-land-use-2017-9?r=US&IR=T

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  4. Pioneer 10 has “left the Solar System” by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    In 1983 we did know about the Oort Cloud - We just hadn’t directly observed objects out there yet. I don’t recall anyone with any scientific knowledge making this “left the solar system” claim back then.

    Actually, just found a NY Times archive article. The headline made that statement, but the article itself just says Pioneer 10 is past “the known planets”. Even then, headline writers went for the “clickbait”.

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  5. Re:Pioneer 10 has “left the Solar System&rdq by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    This. The boundary of the solar system is open to definition, but the generally accepted one is the heliopause -- the boundary at which the sun's effect on space mingles with and is weaker than that of interstellar space.

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  6. Re:Pioneer 10 has “left the Solar System& by barakn · · Score: 1

    No, it isn't the generally accepted definition. The heliopause is merely the edge of the heliosphere and nothing more. The "sun's effect on space" includes its gravitational influence, which extends well beyond the heliopause.

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  7. Next target? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Any news on what objects New Horizons can explore after "Thule"? The Hubble telescope spent a good many hours searching out targets explicitly for New Horizons, which is what found Thule. I wonder if any Earth scopes can help in the hunt for new targets.

    1. Re: Next target? by lolo220 · · Score: 1

      FTFY. Note in particular that it's km/s not m/s. You drive your car around https://audacity.onl/ https://findmyiphone.onl/ https://origin.onl/

    2. Re:Next target? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Informative

      Found this:

      The flyby of 2014 MU69 is just part of New Horizons’ extended mission that runs through 2021. The spacecraft will perform more distant observations of dozens of other Kuiper Belt objects and also heliophysical studies.

      Stern is optimistic that this extended mission will not be the last for New Horizons. The lack of features in the lightcurve of MU69, he said, means that the spacecraft won’t need to maneuver as much to optimize the flyby trajectory. “It doesn’t matter where in the rotation phase we show up,” he said. “We’re going to see about the same amount of terrain.

      That frees up fuel reserves on the spacecraft, he said, that could be used to target another Kuiper Belt object flyby in a second extended mission that would run out to 2024 or beyond. “We are currently searching for new close flyby targets, and we have some very promising techniques” for doing so, he said. With the fuel reserves not needed for the MU69 flyby, “we have a fighting chance of having a second KBO flyby.”

      There are also opportunities, he said, for additional remote observations of Kuiper Belt and other objects, distant observations of the giant planets, and heliospheric and even astrophysics studies using the spacecraft. “I think New Horizons has a bright future, continuing to do planetary science and other applications,” he said. “There’s fuel and power onboard the spacecraft to operate it for another 20 years. That’s not going to be a concern even for a third or fourth extended mission.” [1]

      https://www.quora.com/Could-Ne...

      The upshot seems to be there is no next target right now but they are looking for one and the vehicle is in good shape.

    3. Re:Next target? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      NH actually had 2 choices after Pluto. One was probably slightly bigger, but would had taken more fuel to reach. I'm pretty sure #2 is out of range by now. Let's hope they find another object within reach.

  8. Already found Ultima Thule back in 1974 :-) by Joggingguy · · Score: 1
  9. Fascinating? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Re: "...the spaces beyond are perhaps the most fascinating parts of the solar system."

    This may be true from the perspective of, 'where we haven't visited yet'. However I'd challenge the notion that the Kuiper Belt or Oort Cloud are intrinsically more interesting than the 9 planets (yes, I said 9 planets). The 9 planets are extremely diverse.

    The outer bodies are likely to have a certain amount of sameness to them, if the theories of solar system formation and dynamics hold up. Of course we won't know for sure until we visit a few.

    1. Re:Fascinating? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      If you think Pluto is interesting, then you think the Kuiper Belt is more interesting -- because it contains thousands of Plutoids. And if you think Pluto is a planet, then out of the thousands of planets in the solar system it's odd that you'd say that a measly 8 of them are more interesting than all the thousands of others. It's almost like you want to identify the interesting 8 in a different way and maybe demote the rest to dwarf planets, but I know you'd never do such a thing.

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  10. Re:Pioneer 10 has “left the Solar System&rdq by meglon · · Score: 2

    The NY Times article wasn't clickbait, it was simply stating the fact that Pioneer had passed the known planets. Given than in 1983 Pluto was closer to the sun than Neptune was, the statement is correct.

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  11. How about Congenial Thule? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enough hyperboles already. Who named this rock? Trump? "I have the ultimate space orbs, believe me! I name this one Ultima Thule, because only a thule would deny I'm the best namer ever!"

  12. Re:Pioneer 10 has “left the Solar System& by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

    Fair enough. Using gravity to define the solar system would include the Oort Cloud, which is further out than the heliopause.

    Perhaps the "end" of the solar system depends on your field. My background is in space science (plasmas and EM fields) so I suppose my bias is showing.

    Thanks for the improvement.

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  13. Planet 9, and possibly 10 by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    or even a larger one some confused astronomers call Planet nine

    FTFTFS

    Pluto is a planet, has been for a very long time and will remain so, despite an unfortunate mutual bewilderment that afflicted attendees at an IAU meeting.

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    1. Re:Planet 9, and possibly 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then we have far more than 9 planets.

    2. Re: Planet 9, and possibly 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No but there could have been for all we know

    3. Re:Planet 9, and possibly 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then we have far more than 9 planets.

      And that's a problem how?

    4. Re: Planet 9, and possibly 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the children!! having memorize 150 minor planet names.

      Seriously the anti Pluto nutters trot that out.

      As if that is breakthrough science DTEM education. Idiots.

    5. Re:Planet 9, and possibly 10 by dissy · · Score: 1

      Pluto is a planet, has been for a very long time and will remain so

      Not long enough.

      Pluto was never predicted to exist. Ever. Pluto was discovered by observation, and was discovered in 1930.

      When it was observed in 1930 it was the 8th furthest planet from the Sun, where Neptune was the 9th furthest away.
      Pluto did not reach the far side of its orbit until 1979 when Neptune became the 8th planet by distance and Pluto became the 9th.

      "Planet Nine" (proper noun) was predicted based on orbital effects before that time, in 1906.
      "Planet Nine" (again, a proper noun) has never been observed in it's predicted orbit to this day.

      If you want to combine the two separate event lines for some reason, Pluto would be the 14th planet in order on the list of prediction+observation,

      I know these numbers have a whole whopping 4 digits in them, but they really aren't that hard to put in an ascending order...

      Just because someone stated Pluto was the 8th planet out, at a point in time when it WAS the 8th planet out, in no way means they subscribe to your political bullshit that wouldn't happen for another 30-ish years to come. We're all a bit tired of hearing you trot out "pluto is a planet!1one2!" when no one is arguing otherwise.

    6. Re:Planet 9, and possibly 10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're all a bit tired of hearing you trot out "pluto is a planet!1one2!"

      No we're not. :)

  14. Oh come on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, just want to see a gas spewing comment called something like Fartopulous.

    1. Re:Oh come on by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I, for one, just want to see a gas spewing comment called something like Fartopulous.

      You mean "comet"? Freudian Slip there, Bub.

  15. I like the topic by vhca · · Score: 1

    That is a really great thing

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