5 Insightful my ass. Grow the fuck up: There's no "global conspiracy" by what you call the "MSM" to control the population for some sort of social and economic order. There's one thing, and one thing only that motivates mainstream media: Their own personal profit. Period.
Hollywood and mainstream media are businesses. They produce the content they do for one reason only: Because it's what we demand. We don't give a flying fuck about what "real, ordinary people have to go through in the real world". We want gore, we want drama, we want sex and we want sports. And that's exactly what they give us, because that's how you make money doing business.
Everybody's always trying to find someone else to put the blame on for the world going to shit: The jews, the muslims, the immigrants, the "elite", the media, ect etc. They're all too cowardly to look in the mirror. We are a ruined, degenerate species. And if we don't wise up, gather the courage to look at ourselves for what we truly are, and collectively get our shit together real soon, we'll end-up like all other mistakes of nature ended-up: Extinct.
"have every right to make a bad decision in the health of their child"
No they fucking don't. Whenever someone causes harm to their children, either by a deliberate act or neglect, we call it child abuse. Why would this be any different ?
I'm appaled by the number of people who still see their children as we did in barbaric times; as their personal property, to do with them as they please, with the right of life and death over them.
We are not fucking barbarians anymore. This is the 21st century. We live in a civilized society now, or at least we should be. And in civilized societies, human beings don't own other human beings. Your children are not your children, no matter what your fucking animal instincts tell you. Your children, are citizens, just like you are, with the whole gammut of basic human rights every evolved and civilized culture agrees on. They are under your care until they reach the legal age of independance. And until then, your are required, by law, and by basic human decency to provide them with the best possible care. And so is society as a whole. That's why every civilized nation has mandatory education. And also why every such nation has, or should have nationalized health care for all children.
Grow the fuck up, people. Barbarism, tribalism, social Darwinism are over. Join the civilized world.
The first rule that those wishing to spread misinformation, fake news, etc, must follow is to first destroy the credibility of the fact checkers.
You see this all the time right here on slashdot. First destroy the credibility of all major news organizations hostile to your message. Call them "the ennemies of the people".
Then attack fact-checking organizations like Snopes. Attack their objectivity, attack their honesty. Make sure the people distrusts anyone trying to spread a message different than yours.
Finally, accuse everyone criticising your message of trying to "suppress opinions they disagree with" and attacking your "freedom of speech".
Optionnally: Do exactly what you accuse your opponents of doing, and downmod to hell anyone trying the shed light on your shady tactics and your propaganda methods, just like what's going to happen to this very post.
Because if this style of extorsion becomes a "thing", the thiefs will eventually go after the big youtube guns, you know, the ones that bring millions of revenue to youtube. So it's in youtube's interest to nip this thing in the bud.
The U.S. and Canada have an extradition treaty. Under that treaty, If any country emits an international arrest warrant, the other country must honor it. This is followed by a judicial hearing, where a judge will decide whether extradition to the country that emitted the warrant will be granted or not. Counsel of both parties (the country that emitted the warrant, and the defendant) will plead their cases during that hearing.
The prosecution must tell the court what accusations they intend to bring against the defendant, and the evidence they have gathered so far. Among other things, they must provide evidence that the crime the defendant is accused of is also a crime in the country where the arrest was made. They must also assure the court that if found guilty, the defendant will not be sentenced to the death penalty, if the deaf penalty doesn't exist in the country where the arrest happened. And finally, they must assure the court that the trial in the country asking for extradition will be fair, independant, and follow the Rule of Law.
On their side, the defense must cast doubt on any of the points above. If they succeed, then the judge will not grant extradition, and the defendant will be set free.
That's how extradition treaties work. That's how international law works. As others have mentionned, Venezuela and Canada don't have an extradition treaty.
Next time, I would advise you to take a few minutes to educate yourself about international law before plastering your ignorance all over the Internet, for everyone to see and wonder at.
Trump clearly said that he would intervene if he tought this was good for the country. That's the President of the United States, clearly and unambiguously claiming that he would interfere with the judicial process.In any Rule of Law country (which Canada is), it would be more than enough evidence to get any legal case thrown out of court, including cases like murder.
But I'm sure you'll just claim again that Reuters, one of the most well established and professional news organizations on the planet, just made that all up, actually never showed up in the white house, never conducted this interview with the president himself, and just published a completely made-up fake-news to the entire planet, that curiously, Trump himself never denied publicly.
God you rabid, blind, fanatical Trump worshipers are pathetic. Now go ahead, little Trump troll army, hurry-up and burry this post with troll or flamebait downmodding before someone else can read it, just like you did with my OP. For a bunch that keep bitching and whining about the fact that the evil liberals and "SJWs" keep suppressing your viewpoint and things they disagree with, you all seem exceedingly good at it yourselves fucking hypocrits.
Soon there will be an extradition hearing. The judge will refuse extradition to the U.S. on the base that Trump's comment about using Ms. Meng Wanzhou as a bargaining chip infers the possibility of interference with the judicial process in the United States, therefore denying her the right to a fair trial.
That's what her lawyers will plead, and the judge will agree with them. Extradition will be denied, and Ms. Meng Wanzhou will go free.
Maybe next time the orange dipship will learn to keep his Putin-cock-sucking mouth shut. But I doubt it.
It totally baffles me to see the efforts and the intellectual contorsionism Trump apologists are willing to subject themselves to (and us) to continue to defend and support this abomination of a man. Just look at the pathethic excuses some of them are trying to push in this very thread. Trump tried to rig polls ? Then it's either "well polls aren't worth shit anyway" or "everybody does it". What next ? What's going to be your defense when news comes out that he's a rapist or a child molester ? Is it going to be "well everybody does it" again ?
Donald Trump is probably one of the worst, if not the worst, american public figure of the last five or so decades, at least. This was already common knowlege decades before the presidency.
So why ? Why would anyone with even a shred of human decency want to be associated with a vile psychopath like that, and defend him with blind, absolute loyalty ? Is it pure tribalism ? Is it only because it pisses off liberals ?
Plot twist. Neither China nor Russia are dictatorships.
TDS tends to blind people from logic. That is one of the symptoms.
Oh, the irony...
So, how much does it pay these days being an internet shill ? Or are you simply a troll ? Because you can't possibly actually believe all the bullshit you're saying.
China isn't a democracy simply because it says "democratic" in its official name. And Russia ? Not a dictatorship ? Try to run against Putin in the next election. If by chance you happen to represent a significant threat, you'll quickly end-up in prison on some bogus "fraud" charge, or worse, dead from Polonium 210 poisoning.
But why am I wasting my time telling you all this. You're obviously a troll, or a cowardly, worthless paid shill. Or maybe a 10 year old who just parrots what his parents tell him, and also believes that the WWF is real.
They're obviously chineese or russians paid shills, or simply trolls, that's all. You know, the same kind of shills that create facebook pages for fake supposedly american organizations, one anti and one pro immigration, and organize opposing demonstrations on the same day, at the same time, and in the same city.
And you americans worry about a few thousand spanish speaking illegals entering your country from the southern border... Your turn will come soon enough.
And what about all those whiny canadian anglos bitching because the big bad federal governement forces them to learn french in school. Try to avoid hearing mandarin or cantoneese anywhere in Vancouver these days. You too will be forced to jump on the chineese band wagon.
China doesn't need nuclear weapons. All it needs is to move five hundred million chinese along the border of the country they want to invade, and have them yell "BANG !" all together.
That's pocket change. It is clear that from the beginning of the industrial revolution, laws have been drafted by the wealthy, for the benefit of the wealthy.
Fines like these are only meant to give us plebs the illusion of justice. Remember people: Corporations are inherently sociopathic; they're actually incentivised to be that way, by the very nature of the capitalist system.
The wealthy are getting better medical treatement than the poor, and that's exactly how conservatives want things to be.
Let's not beat around the bush: Conservatives are social darwinists. When confronted about it, not only are they not denying it, they're actually proud of it. They want social inequality. In their minds, all rich people are smart, deserving, hard working people who make smart decisions in life, and all poor people are stupid, lazy, parasitic slobs who deserve what they get. And every human being on Earth falls neatly into one of those two categories. After all, binary thinking is also a defining trait of the conservative mindset.
They ignore the possibility that some of those poor, suffering, sick people may be children who are suffering because of their parents situation. And those who acknowlege it, don't care. That's right. They don't care about children suffering and dying. To them, it's in the order of things. Children of rich, wealthy parents should reek the benefits of having been born with a silver spoon in their mouth, therefore perpetuating their parents' good genes/values. Similarly, children of poor parents should suffer and die, putting an end to their parents' bad lineage. Social darwinism.
Remember: American society wasn't built on the same principles that guide other evolved, advanced societies, it was built on one,and only one, principle: Freedom. And that includes freedom to be a heartless, cold, miserable sack of pus, and to elect one as their president.
Me personnaly, as far as liberals vs conservatives go, the former may have no brains, but the latter have no heart, and I know exactly which ones I'd rather have as friends.
Are there still/. users today who remember the time when Google was created, with their famous "Don't be evil" catch phrase ? Remember when Google was seen by the entire/. community as basically the second coming of Christ, and anyone who dared even hint at anything remotely negative about this company was instantly dowmodded into this abyss ?
Remember those who predicted that this new, innovative, enthousiastic and idealistic enterprise would soon be corrupted by the gangrene of corporate filth, and how they were instanteniously scolded by hords of pitchfork-weilding rabid downmodders from Hell ?
I do.
Where are you today, Ô ancient Google apologists ? Why have you suddenly turned silent ?
So let me get this straight: What you're basically saying is that you trust a repressive totalitarian regime more than you trust your own democratically elected governement ?
Why doesn't your Pedophile In Chief make Mexico pay for it ? Isn't that what he campained on ?
I'll tell you why: Because Trump is full of shit, like everyone who ever lived even just one second on planet Earth anytime within the past 50 years already knows, or should know.
When Obama was campaining, his words were about unity, solidarity, and hope. Whether he was sincere or not is irrelevant; people believed him, and by voting for him, they sincerely tought, naively, stupidely maybe, but still sincerely, that they were doing good.
When Trump was campaining, his words were all about fear, anger, and hate. Unless they didn't live at any moment anywhere on planet Earth during the past 50 or so years, they knew exactly what kind of man he was. When they voted for him, they deliberately wanted to do harm.
Now tell me: In what way is this not exactly the definition of a criminal act ?
Deliberately voting to the white house a known and well established narcissist, psychopath, compulsive liar, scammer, con-man and child molester for the sole purpose of pissing off half the U.S. population and wilfully destabelizing society and risking plunging it into chaos should be considered an act of treason punishable by prison time.
If people can still believe a known and well established liar, scammer and con-man who's built his entire carreer out of screwing people like them when he says he will fight for them, or when he promises that he will build a great wall and make Mexico pay for it while the governement is now paralized precisely because Mexico won't pay for it, then you can be sure they'll believe Mark Zuckerberg again.
Because even though the Zuck is a lying, manipulative, sociopathic piece of shit, he's still ten times more trustworthy that the current POTUS.
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5 Insightful my ass. Grow the fuck up: There's no "global conspiracy" by what you call the "MSM" to control the population for some sort of social and economic order. There's one thing, and one thing only that motivates mainstream media: Their own personal profit. Period.
Hollywood and mainstream media are businesses. They produce the content they do for one reason only: Because it's what we demand. We don't give a flying fuck about what "real, ordinary people have to go through in the real world". We want gore, we want drama, we want sex and we want sports. And that's exactly what they give us, because that's how you make money doing business.
Everybody's always trying to find someone else to put the blame on for the world going to shit: The jews, the muslims, the immigrants, the "elite", the media, ect etc. They're all too cowardly to look in the mirror. We are a ruined, degenerate species. And if we don't wise up, gather the courage to look at ourselves for what we truly are, and collectively get our shit together real soon, we'll end-up like all other mistakes of nature ended-up: Extinct.
At what point, if any, do we start holding PDP responsible for the actions of his fans?
If he takes their money, then he is responsible.
People just couldn't wait to see in full 3D IMAX Captain Marvel beat the crap out of the old lady in the bus. :)
Who knew this would turn the Internet to a shithole where cheap tricks for data collection and crap dominate in such a short time.
Basically anyone who wasn't an idealistic delusional geek who naively believed that all of humanity's problems could be solved by technology.
"When all you have is a hammer"... Well, you know the drill.
"have every right to make a bad decision in the health of their child"
No they fucking don't. Whenever someone causes harm to their children, either by a deliberate act or neglect, we call it child abuse. Why would this be any different ?
I'm appaled by the number of people who still see their children as we did in barbaric times; as their personal property, to do with them as they please, with the right of life and death over them.
We are not fucking barbarians anymore. This is the 21st century. We live in a civilized society now, or at least we should be. And in civilized societies, human beings don't own other human beings. Your children are not your children, no matter what your fucking animal instincts tell you. Your children, are citizens, just like you are, with the whole gammut of basic human rights every evolved and civilized culture agrees on. They are under your care until they reach the legal age of independance. And until then, your are required, by law, and by basic human decency to provide them with the best possible care. And so is society as a whole. That's why every civilized nation has mandatory education. And also why every such nation has, or should have nationalized health care for all children.
Grow the fuck up, people. Barbarism, tribalism, social Darwinism are over. Join the civilized world.
The first rule that those wishing to spread misinformation, fake news, etc, must follow is to first destroy the credibility of the fact checkers.
You see this all the time right here on slashdot. First destroy the credibility of all major news organizations hostile to your message. Call them "the ennemies of the people".
Then attack fact-checking organizations like Snopes. Attack their objectivity, attack their honesty. Make sure the people distrusts anyone trying to spread a message different than yours.
Finally, accuse everyone criticising your message of trying to "suppress opinions they disagree with" and attacking your "freedom of speech".
Optionnally: Do exactly what you accuse your opponents of doing, and downmod to hell anyone trying the shed light on your shady tactics and your propaganda methods, just like what's going to happen to this very post.
Because if this style of extorsion becomes a "thing", the thiefs will eventually go after the big youtube guns, you know, the ones that bring millions of revenue to youtube. So it's in youtube's interest to nip this thing in the bud.
The U.S. and Canada have an extradition treaty. Under that treaty, If any country emits an international arrest warrant, the other country must honor it. This is followed by a judicial hearing, where a judge will decide whether extradition to the country that emitted the warrant will be granted or not. Counsel of both parties (the country that emitted the warrant, and the defendant) will plead their cases during that hearing.
The prosecution must tell the court what accusations they intend to bring against the defendant, and the evidence they have gathered so far. Among other things, they must provide evidence that the crime the defendant is accused of is also a crime in the country where the arrest was made. They must also assure the court that if found guilty, the defendant will not be sentenced to the death penalty, if the deaf penalty doesn't exist in the country where the arrest happened. And finally, they must assure the court that the trial in the country asking for extradition will be fair, independant, and follow the Rule of Law.
On their side, the defense must cast doubt on any of the points above. If they succeed, then the judge will not grant extradition, and the defendant will be set free.
That's how extradition treaties work. That's how international law works. As others have mentionned, Venezuela and Canada don't have an extradition treaty.
Next time, I would advise you to take a few minutes to educate yourself about international law before plastering your ignorance all over the Internet, for everyone to see and wonder at.
https://www.reuters.com/articl...
Trump clearly said that he would intervene if he tought this was good for the country. That's the President of the United States, clearly and unambiguously claiming that he would interfere with the judicial process.In any Rule of Law country (which Canada is), it would be more than enough evidence to get any legal case thrown out of court, including cases like murder.
But I'm sure you'll just claim again that Reuters, one of the most well established and professional news organizations on the planet, just made that all up, actually never showed up in the white house, never conducted this interview with the president himself, and just published a completely made-up fake-news to the entire planet, that curiously, Trump himself never denied publicly.
God you rabid, blind, fanatical Trump worshipers are pathetic. Now go ahead, little Trump troll army, hurry-up and burry this post with troll or flamebait downmodding before someone else can read it, just like you did with my OP. For a bunch that keep bitching and whining about the fact that the evil liberals and "SJWs" keep suppressing your viewpoint and things they disagree with, you all seem exceedingly good at it yourselves fucking hypocrits.
Soon there will be an extradition hearing. The judge will refuse extradition to the U.S. on the base that Trump's comment about using Ms. Meng Wanzhou as a bargaining chip infers the possibility of interference with the judicial process in the United States, therefore denying her the right to a fair trial.
That's what her lawyers will plead, and the judge will agree with them. Extradition will be denied, and Ms. Meng Wanzhou will go free.
Maybe next time the orange dipship will learn to keep his Putin-cock-sucking mouth shut. But I doubt it.
It totally baffles me to see the efforts and the intellectual contorsionism Trump apologists are willing to subject themselves to (and us) to continue to defend and support this abomination of a man. Just look at the pathethic excuses some of them are trying to push in this very thread. Trump tried to rig polls ? Then it's either "well polls aren't worth shit anyway" or "everybody does it". What next ? What's going to be your defense when news comes out that he's a rapist or a child molester ? Is it going to be "well everybody does it" again ?
Donald Trump is probably one of the worst, if not the worst, american public figure of the last five or so decades, at least. This was already common knowlege decades before the presidency.
So why ? Why would anyone with even a shred of human decency want to be associated with a vile psychopath like that, and defend him with blind, absolute loyalty ? Is it pure tribalism ? Is it only because it pisses off liberals ?
House of cards. Reality trumps fiction.
Plot twist. Neither China nor Russia are dictatorships.
TDS tends to blind people from logic. That is one of the symptoms.
Oh, the irony...
So, how much does it pay these days being an internet shill ? Or are you simply a troll ? Because you can't possibly actually believe all the bullshit you're saying.
China isn't a democracy simply because it says "democratic" in its official name. And Russia ? Not a dictatorship ? Try to run against Putin in the next election. If by chance you happen to represent a significant threat, you'll quickly end-up in prison on some bogus "fraud" charge, or worse, dead from Polonium 210 poisoning.
But why am I wasting my time telling you all this. You're obviously a troll, or a cowardly, worthless paid shill. Or maybe a 10 year old who just parrots what his parents tell him, and also believes that the WWF is real.
They're obviously chineese or russians paid shills, or simply trolls, that's all. You know, the same kind of shills that create facebook pages for fake supposedly american organizations, one anti and one pro immigration, and organize opposing demonstrations on the same day, at the same time, and in the same city.
Found the trumptard.
And you americans worry about a few thousand spanish speaking illegals entering your country from the southern border... Your turn will come soon enough.
And what about all those whiny canadian anglos bitching because the big bad federal governement forces them to learn french in school. Try to avoid hearing mandarin or cantoneese anywhere in Vancouver these days. You too will be forced to jump on the chineese band wagon.
China doesn't need nuclear weapons. All it needs is to move five hundred million chinese along the border of the country they want to invade, and have them yell "BANG !" all together.
That's pocket change. It is clear that from the beginning of the industrial revolution, laws have been drafted by the wealthy, for the benefit of the wealthy.
Fines like these are only meant to give us plebs the illusion of justice. Remember people: Corporations are inherently sociopathic; they're actually incentivised to be that way, by the very nature of the capitalist system.
The wealthy are getting better medical treatement than the poor, and that's exactly how conservatives want things to be.
Let's not beat around the bush: Conservatives are social darwinists. When confronted about it, not only are they not denying it, they're actually proud of it. They want social inequality. In their minds, all rich people are smart, deserving, hard working people who make smart decisions in life, and all poor people are stupid, lazy, parasitic slobs who deserve what they get. And every human being on Earth falls neatly into one of those two categories. After all, binary thinking is also a defining trait of the conservative mindset.
They ignore the possibility that some of those poor, suffering, sick people may be children who are suffering because of their parents situation. And those who acknowlege it, don't care. That's right. They don't care about children suffering and dying. To them, it's in the order of things. Children of rich, wealthy parents should reek the benefits of having been born with a silver spoon in their mouth, therefore perpetuating their parents' good genes/values. Similarly, children of poor parents should suffer and die, putting an end to their parents' bad lineage. Social darwinism.
Remember: American society wasn't built on the same principles that guide other evolved, advanced societies, it was built on one,and only one, principle: Freedom. And that includes freedom to be a heartless, cold, miserable sack of pus, and to elect one as their president.
Me personnaly, as far as liberals vs conservatives go, the former may have no brains, but the latter have no heart, and I know exactly which ones I'd rather have as friends.
Are there still /. users today who remember the time when Google was created, with their famous "Don't be evil" catch phrase ? Remember when Google was seen by the entire /. community as basically the second coming of Christ, and anyone who dared even hint at anything remotely negative about this company was instantly dowmodded into this abyss ?
Remember those who predicted that this new, innovative, enthousiastic and idealistic enterprise would soon be corrupted by the gangrene of corporate filth, and how they were instanteniously scolded by hords of pitchfork-weilding rabid downmodders from Hell ?
I do.
Where are you today, Ô ancient Google apologists ? Why have you suddenly turned silent ?
Here's what Bozo himself thinks of his base:
"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot someone, and I still wouldn't lose any voters"
In light of this, every single one of his delirious, unbelievably moronic tweets suddenly make perfect sense, considering who they are directed to.
So let me get this straight: What you're basically saying is that you trust a repressive totalitarian regime more than you trust your own democratically elected governement ?
Why doesn't your Pedophile In Chief make Mexico pay for it ? Isn't that what he campained on ?
I'll tell you why: Because Trump is full of shit, like everyone who ever lived even just one second on planet Earth anytime within the past 50 years already knows, or should know.
When Obama was campaining, his words were about unity, solidarity, and hope. Whether he was sincere or not is irrelevant; people believed him, and by voting for him, they sincerely tought, naively, stupidely maybe, but still sincerely, that they were doing good.
When Trump was campaining, his words were all about fear, anger, and hate. Unless they didn't live at any moment anywhere on planet Earth during the past 50 or so years, they knew exactly what kind of man he was. When they voted for him, they deliberately wanted to do harm.
Now tell me: In what way is this not exactly the definition of a criminal act ?
Deliberately voting to the white house a known and well established narcissist, psychopath, compulsive liar, scammer, con-man and child molester for the sole purpose of pissing off half the U.S. population and wilfully destabelizing society and risking plunging it into chaos should be considered an act of treason punishable by prison time.
If people can still believe a known and well established liar, scammer and con-man who's built his entire carreer out of screwing people like them when he says he will fight for them, or when he promises that he will build a great wall and make Mexico pay for it while the governement is now paralized precisely because Mexico won't pay for it, then you can be sure they'll believe Mark Zuckerberg again.
Because even though the Zuck is a lying, manipulative, sociopathic piece of shit, he's still ten times more trustworthy that the current POTUS.