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Microsoft is Privately Testing 'Bali,' a Way To Give Users Control of Data Collected About Them (zdnet.com)

Microsoft is working on a project codenamed "Bali," which is designed to give users control of data collected about them. The project is a Microsoft Research incubation effort and seems to be in private testing at this stage. From a report: I learned of the existence of Bali in a tweet from "Longhorn," which I saw via another Twitter user, "Walking Cat." Longhorn described Bali as "a project that can delete all your connection and account information (inverseprivacyproject)." I found a link to the Bali project page. That page allows those with a code to sign into the site and says those without a code can request one.

The "About" page for Bali describes it as a "new personal data bank which puts users in control of all data collected about them.... The bank will enable users to store all data (raw and inferred) generated by them. It will allow the user to visualize, manage, control, share and monetize the data."

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  1. WHY IS THIS DATA BEING GENERATED BY DEFAULT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's the fucking question, not whether you can force users to jump through hoops to maintain (the illusion of) basic privacy with some new portal, WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S FINE TO COLLECT ALL THIS BY DEFAULT?

    The fuck do you think you are, Facebook?

    1. Re:WHY IS THIS DATA BEING GENERATED BY DEFAULT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly. They are working on a solution to a problem that they created in the first place.

      Microsoft: Just make Windows NOT fucking spy on users. That's the real solution.

    2. Re:WHY IS THIS DATA BEING GENERATED BY DEFAULT by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      offering to let the tortured choose when and how they are tortured

      Oh! I choose to be hung by my toes over a pot of boiling Limburger cheese while being forced to listen to Trumps speeches set to polka music.

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    3. Re:WHY IS THIS DATA BEING GENERATED BY DEFAULT by gweihir · · Score: 2

      Indeed. Also seems to be an illegal act under the GDPR. Why, for example, is MS not forbidden to sell their win10 Spyware in the EU?

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  2. How about not... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    How about not collecting the fucking data in the first place? Will Nerdella give people that option?

  3. Re:I'm sure /. will find a way to poo all over thi by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    User privacy protections aren't bad, but the best thing would be for MS to give users the real option of going cloudfree, not nudging users (hard) to cloud-up their personal data.

  4. How about by rtkluttz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about software written that doesn't try to force you into the cloud. How about controls that truly limit information leaks from your browser that can be used to fingerprint you, such as always reply with the same font list regardless of what you have on your computer, or refuse to give up mouse hover location, and do not send keystrokes in real time, require a click or OK to send form data as a completed field rather than streamed. Take away every avenue used for unique identification by default at the browser level. Unique identification should only be possible if the user signs in with credentials.

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  5. cenralize control by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft : "give us all your personal data and we can control who can access if for you. You can trust us."

    This is dumber than Facebook wanting you to give them your nudes so they can make sure nobody posts them online.

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  6. Re:I'm sure /. will find a way to poo all over thi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    anti-MS haters

    Just because you don't like something it doesn't make you a 'hater'.. grow the fuck up snowflake, you sound like a Bieber fan.

    Are you that fucked in the head that you can't see the problem with this ?
    I'll give you a clue, you shouldn't need to go to a website with a 'special code' to delete this shit, it should be an option built into Windows so that users can opt out of MS grabbing this data in the first place.

  7. Google already does this..... by Puls4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google purportedly gives you access to control a lot of your 'data' on their apps and websites. It only takes digging through hundreds of obscure settings and un-obvious control schemes, individual devices, and individual applications.

    And even then you'll find that they add new "settings" without telling you and default them to the on position, so they're getting information you never even knew they were grabbing.

    An opt-in system is the ONLY system that should be allowed, and not the EULA opt-in system. A system where you have to click every single checkbox for every bit of information they intend to collect.

    Or you could just avoid all this and download my awesome Android Flashlight app. I swear it only turns your phone's LED on and off. Promise.

  8. Two main questions... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2
    1) Hasn't Microsoft stated that I already have control of the data Microsoft collects? Was that just a lie?

    - and -

    2) Why the hell is Microsoft collecting data about me?

  9. Re:I'm sure /. will find a way to poo all over thi by Puls4r · · Score: 2

    I'm going to have to completely disagree with you. The Do Not Track flag in browsers worked out perfectly.

  10. Fine enough by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    (User unchecks a hundred things they clicked on.)

    "Thank you. We will remember that!" (Proceeds to put you into advertising bins based on what you told then not to follow you about.)

    Better check the fine print.

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