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World's Longest Aircraft Gets Full-Production Go-Ahead (bbc.com)

The Airlander 10 -- the world's longest aircraft -- is set to go into full production with the model designed to take its first passengers. "It comes after the prototype Airlander 10 -- a combined plane and airship -- was formally retired following successful final testing," reports the BBC. "As a result, Bedford firm Hybrid Air Vehicles (HAV) has been given Production Organization Approval from the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA)." From the report: An eyewitness said the aircraft appeared to "break in two" after breaking its moorings and deflating, in November that year, less than 24 hours after completing its sixth successful test flight. The firm was given Design Organization Approval from the European Aviation Safety Agency (Easa) in October. Stephen McGlennan, HAV's chief executive, said 2018 had been very good, with Easa's backing a "huge highlight." He said the firm had changed its focus last year towards the production of Airlander 10 as a commercial aircraft for customers. "The prototype served its purpose as the world's first full-sized hybrid aircraft, providing us with the data we needed to move forward from prototype to production standard," he said. It is now hoped the full commercial model will take to the skies with its first paying passengers "in the early 2020s." Approval from the CAA and Easa now puts the firm in a "strong position to launch production."

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  1. I prefer my aircraft never has by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Funny

    DOA approval. /s

  2. Longest *current* aircraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's 92m long, which may make it the longest currently [soon] in production, but the Zeppelins were 235m long back then.
    Also, would not have hurt to put the length in the summary, would it?

    1. Re: Longest *current* aircraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Eh, so is the jet engine, rockets, atomic bombs, jerrycans, Fanta (drink) and the Volkswagen Beetle.
      However, you are wrong about the Zeppelin:
      "Zeppelin's notions were first formulated in 1874 and developed in detail in 1893". ... yes, I know you were joking :)

    2. Re:Longest *current* aircraft by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but the Airlander 10 is still the world's largest flying bum.

    3. Re:Longest *current* aircraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      As none of the Zeppelins exist anymore,

      Zeppeliners exists and fly today. Made by the same company that made the old Zeppeliners too. Google "Zeppelin NT" for more data, and where you can book a flight with one of them. They are only 75 meters though, so not the longest aircraft around. Nice trips, although expensive.

    4. Re: Longest *current* aircraft by Cryacin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Spoken in a Blackadder III voice:

      Baldrick, is that a dirigible in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

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    5. Re:Longest *current* aircraft by Sique · · Score: 3, Informative
      The Zeppelin NT is not made by the same company, that made Zeppelins of the 1920ies and got the name from its founder Count Zeppelin. The company which made the Zeppelin NT was founded as Metallwerk Friedrichshafen GmbH in 1950, and only later renamed into Zeppelin-Metallwerke GmbH.

      As the Zeppelin NT is a semi-rigid airship, it is not even a Zeppelin airship from a technical point of view. Count Zeppelin's constructions were rigid airships, and of those, none has survived. The Zeppelin NT has just a famous name attached to it without living up to its legacy.

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  3. Nice To See Some Diversity In Aviation by dryriver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Aviation has been 99% planes-with-wings and helicopters the last few decades. Blimps were used as advertising billboards and PR attractions mostly. So its nice to see an airplane-airship hybrid being tested. Maybe this design has some decent benefits, for air-cargo hauling, leisurely sight-seeing from the air and similar? (Not "putting all your eges in one basket" and so on...)

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  4. Re:Helium by Rob+Lister · · Score: 2, Informative

    Contrary to certain media scare-mongering, helium is fairly abundant. Extracted natural gas contains as much as 7% helium.

  5. Re:What's with all the hyphens? by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do people just pepper hyphens at random into their sentences? If you're going to hyphenate full-production and go-ahead, why not hyphenate longest-aircraft too?

    Haven't you ever heard of the Oxford-Hyphen? /s

  6. I think there could be a niche market by Chrisq · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think there could be a niche market for this, a luxury cruise in the air. I'm not convinced anyone would want to use it for A to B transport though because it is so much slower than traditional aircraft.

    1. Re: I think there could be a niche market by Chrisq · · Score: 2

      Could be a viable alternative to trucking though.

      If the costs come down enough yes, especially in remote areas with bad roads

    2. Re:I think there could be a niche market by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      If I could do a long haul flight at half the speed but in relative luxury I might be interested.

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  7. Re:Is this the one that looks like buttocks? by Rob+Lister · · Score: 2

    Luxury passenger transport will be a big money maker. Also remote access, advertising, surveillance, communications, yada. It is worthy.

  8. Re:Helium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a lot of it in the universe, but not that much (relatively speaking) on earth. And we don't know how to produce more of it economically.

    There's a lot of it under our feet, not too easy to extract. We usually get it as a byproduct of natural gas extraction. Other than that, a lot of it naturally seeps from the rocks up into the atmosphere, but quickly goes up and gets lots into outer space.

    Known reserves will last some 50 to 100 years an current consumption rate (party baloons are not a major factor). After that we need to learn how to extract it from rocks, or perhaps by then we can just swoop it from Jupiter's atmosphere as He3.

  9. Focussing on the least interesting aspect by 91degrees · · Score: 2

    Yes, it is the longest. I imagine its volume and body width are amongst the highest as well. But the cool thing about this plane is it combines a plane and an airship. It requires very little in the way of runway length, has an absolutely massive cargo bay, has a low carbon footprint, is reasonably fast (nowhere near as fast as an airliner but faster than most other means of transport), the ability to fly very slowly, and offers a flight endurance measured in weeks.

  10. Re: For US military in Afghanistan by c6gunner · · Score: 2

    You can transport stuff by truck, but the locals tend to support the Taliban.

    The rest of your comment was fairly insightful, so it's really too bad you had to ruin it with this horseshit. In surveys something like 90% of Afghans say they are afraid of the Taliban. The majority of Afghans support things like educating and voting rights for women; things which the Taliban vehemently opposes. The idea that "the locals tend to support the Taliban" is just blatant nonsense; the vast majority of them want nothing to do with it.

    The ratio of locals who support the Taliban in Pashtun areas is quite a bit higher, but your statement would be an unfair characterization even of just those areas, let alone of Afghanistan as a whole.

  11. Re:Helium by shortscruffydave · · Score: 4, Funny

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/africa/helium-discovery-tanzania/index.html

    And there's a finite supply of everything here on Earth. Some things are more finite than others.

    Except stupidity - there's a limitless supply of that

  12. Re:What's with all the hyphens? by Gabest · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just look at the address bar "worlds-longest-aircraft-gets-full-production-go-ahead".

  13. Finite resource by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Isn't Helium the second commonest element after Hydrogen?

    In the universe? Yes. On Earth? No. We're talking about helium accessible to us. I don't think we're about to go mining the Sun for helium. We're not going to run out this minute or anything but we have a finite supply currently available to us. It doesn't help we waste a lot of it on party balloons and other frivolous uses.

  14. Supply by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Contrary to certain media scare-mongering, helium is fairly abundant.

    We're not going to run out in the next few years if that is what you are talking about. But our supply of readily accessible and economically available helium is limited unless we find new ways to extract more. It's nothing to lose sleep over at the present but it is worth worrying about in the long term. There have been some shortages in recent years but these are more due to supply chain disruptions than anything else.

    Extracted natural gas contains as much as 7% helium.

    That number is only true for a few fields - most have less than that and not all have enough to make it economically worthwhile to extract it. Natural gas reportedly needs to have more than 0.3% helium for it to become profitable to extract it.

  15. Re: For US military in Afghanistan by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    Here's an interesting survey, the popular things (like education for women) are the types of things that would get you killed by the Taliban. and there is a big drop in "country going right/wrong" right around the time that President Obama started the draw-down of troops. Mean that - contrary to what you often hear - the Afghans, by and large, prefer to have US troops around rather than Taliban.

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