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Microsoft Suggests Windows 10 Mobile Users Switch To iOS or Android As Support Winds Down (macrumors.com)

Windows 10 Mobile devices will be officially unsupported starting on December 10, 2019. As a result, Microsoft is recommending users move to an Android or iOS device instead. Mac Rumors reports: Microsoft made the recommendation in a Windows 10 Mobile support document (via Thurrott) explaining its plans to stop offering security updates and patches for Windows 10 Mobile: "With the Windows 10 Mobile OS end of support, we recommend that customers move to a supported Android or iOS device. Microsoft's mission statement to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more, compels us to support our Mobile apps on those platforms and devices." All customers who have a Windows 10 Mobile device will be able to keep using it after December 10, 2019, but no further updates will be available.

73 comments

  1. There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's something called "Windows 10 Mobile"?

    TIL.

    But hmm.... why?

    1. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Iwastheone · · Score: 3, Informative

      It actually was a good phone OS, a bit cludgy, too late to the game and did not gain traction with app developers. Doomed from the start, though if all you needed was a reliable cellphone, it just worked.

    2. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1, Insightful

      And so did iPhones and many of the mid to high range Androids, and they had an actual app ecosystem.

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    3. Re: There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If i wanted a reliable id get a nokia 3310. Windows 10 mobiles problem was it didnt fill any gap in the marketplace yet it can get malware without security updates. If 3g didnt shut down the 3310 would still be the perfect phone with weeks standy by. What did windows 10 mobile bring to the table? Nothing except yet another dead microsoft platform.

    4. Re: There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by slazzy · · Score: 1

      Don't worry it "plays for sure!"

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    5. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Doomed from the start, though if all you needed was a reliable cellphone, it just worked. Most people require a phone that spies more than that. e.g. FB

    6. Re: There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well there goes the âoePlays for sureâ promise. Fuck microsoft and their lies

    7. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I worked... or rather TRIED to work as a tester on the Windows 10 Mobile team at Microsoft.

      I had 6 bosses. never knowing who to report to for what.

      I had 1 SIM card; and no office phone. To test making/receiving calls on. Calling to/from my personal phone was expressly forbidden by 2 of the bosses.

      The phones would randomly reboot; this was NOT considered a test failure according to 3 of the bosses.

    8. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The OS was killed when MS broke the backwards compatibility multiple times in a row and tried to force developers to use Windows 8.

    9. Re:There's a Windows 10 Mobile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > too late to the game

      Microsoft phones had 40% of the US market in 2006. That was _before_ Apple and Android.

      > did not gain traction with app developers

      Microsoft repeatedly screwed the developers by deadending each successive generation and dumping compatibility. Developers just gave up and went where they could make money and not have to relearn everything every couple of years.

  2. Nothing available to trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows, Android, IOS. All collecting everything they can. All run by shady companies.
    No thanks!

    1. Re:Nothing available to trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right... but what's the alternative if you want a smartphone and don't wanna fuck around with trying to jailbreak devices and install 3rd party firmwares?

    2. Re:Nothing available to trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:Nothing available to trust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There isn't one.
      I've moved on to amateur radio.

  3. Well, I guess by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    Worrying about them dropping the promised windows 10 upgrade for my windows 8.1 phone didn't matter after all. Still a good reliable phone interface though.

    1. Re:Well, I guess by Iwastheone · · Score: 1

      If MS had included the old original XBox games as an inducement they'd have had a damn good shot at competing with Apple/Android phones. Missed opportunity.

  4. In the future... by found404 · · Score: 0

    In the future, companies like Microsoft will be able to shutdown *their* devices remotely once they've decided support will end. The US, like most countries, don't even have "planned obsolescence' laws (which is why a company like Apple can remotely f*ck with your battery).

    > "All customers who have a Windows 10 Mobile device will be able to keep using it after December 10, 2019..."

    What odd phrasing... Thanks for your permission, Microsoft: That one guy in France must be very happy.

  5. Objoke by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Microsoft Suggests Windows 10 Mobile Users Switch To iOS or Android"

    Both of them?

    1. Re: Objoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahaha
      Sweet dreams windows 10 mobile

    2. Re:Objoke by unity · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well the other guy can do it, I'm holding onto mine until it dies and can't find another one to replace it with. It does everything I need, perfectly.

    3. Re:Objoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well the other guy can do it, I'm holding onto mine until it dies and can't find another one to replace it with. It does everything I need, perfectly.

      I guess I'm the other guy.

      hanging on to mine too

    4. Re:Objoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Microsoft Suggests Windows 10 Mobile Users Switch To iOS or Android"

      Better, saying essentially the same thing:

      Microsoft Suggests Windows 10 Users Switch to Apple or Linux Operating System

    5. Re: Objoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. When I tried Android, I was shocked and disappointed at how many apps constantly pop up notifications simply because you haven't opened them in a while. Looking at you YouTube, for popping up video suggestions a day after I closed the app. And the daily notification buzz for updated weather forecast.

    6. Re: Objoke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha.

      Fuck you.

    7. Re: Objoke by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      Annoying, yes. But the system lets you set up the notifications on a per-app basis.

    8. Re:Objoke by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      Uh oh, the op's joke just went to hell. I am a third guy, also content with his windows phone.

    9. Re:Objoke by sichbo · · Score: 1

      Same here. So you me and the two ACs make 4. Foolishly I've even just released an app which I use on mine. Just one problem though, and it's now evident that it'll never be fixed -- the WinRT broker infrastructure that's responsible for throttling or allowing apps to run beyond their energy usage quota (on the user's request) is busted, so it's impossible to write a truly reliable connected-standby TCP socket app for Win10 mobile build 15063, the final build we'll probably ever see.

  6. Stupid Question - Why not install Android? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why couldn't Microsoft (or someone) just release a version of Android for one or more of these phones?
    I suspect the major reason is money, but still, aren't these phones pretty generic inside at this point?

    1. Re: Stupid Question - Why not install Android? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Informative

      android4lumia.github.io/

  7. Stick it to Google/Apple - Open source the thing by bogaboga · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "With the Windows 10 Mobile OS end of support, we recommend that customers move to a supported Android or iOS device. Microsoft's mission statement to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more, compels us to support our Mobile apps on those platforms and devices."

    (bold mine)

    And the only way to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more is to Open Source Windows 10.

    The result would be to stick it to Google/Apple too, which would be "icing on the cake."

  8. Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux? MacOS?

    1. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All remaining Windows 10 users are encouraged to switch to Linux NOW!

    2. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mac if you have money to burn, Linux otherwise.

    3. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm looking forward to EOL for Windows 7. The largest threat to my Windows 7 box will finally disappear.

    4. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Even if you have enough money, the badly engineered "butterfly keyboard" means you can't buy an Apple laptop with a good keyboard unless you buy the old Mid-2017 MacBook Air which is still available.

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    5. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by dddux · · Score: 1

      I keep misreading things... I read "All 10 remaining Windows users are encouraged to switch to Linux NOW!" lol

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    6. Re:Any suggestions regarding the EOL of Windows 7? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      The only laptops with a truly good keyboard are MSI's Titan series, most of which use Cherry switches.

  9. Re:iOS preferably by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    you do know that assuming something about someone without knowing anything about them just "makes an ass out of you"

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  10. Re:iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As we all know, Android is for poor people and poors likely never bought a windows phone

    Elitist attitudes like yours just really piss me off. May you live an interesting life. (That's an ancient Chinese curse, btw.)

  11. Duopoly sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Win mobile had itâ(TM)s problems but it was a really good interface and highly under rated. Only having 2 platforms, one totally controlled by Google and the other controlled by Apple is terrible. We need a broader marketplace for phone environments.

    1. Re:Duopoly sucks. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Microsoft tried to compete and failed, with Windows 10.

      Firefox tried and failed too, using Firefox OS.

      Amazon also tried and failed, but since Amazon Fire OS was Android-based, it wasn't really a different option.

      Facebook tried a partnership with HTC, but it was only pre-packaged Facebook apps on an Android phone. Who the fuck would want a Facebook phone anyway?

      At this point, there is nobody left to compete with Apple and Google.

      And with Apple shooting themselves in the foot with their ever-more-expensive devices with features that nobody asked for and even the removal of things people actually want, it's only a matter of time before everyone has no choice but to use Windows 10 laptops and Android phones and tablets.

      And since most users are content consumers and not content creators, and with Google's Chrome OS already running on low-cost laptops and also developing Fuchsia as "the one OS to rule them all", the future does not look good if you don't like Google.

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  12. microsoft was right again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    windows 10 will be the last windows you'll ever buy... on a phone.

  13. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, it is âoeMay you live in interesting timesâ and yes, it was a Chinese curse

  14. E-waste by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    All that crap they spout about global warming and caring for the environment and they let thousands of phones go into the garbage like its some sort of consumable item?

  15. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both versions basically mean the same idea that goes back those ancient days. We do live in interesting times, for better or worse. Live the best life you can under current conditions, just my advice. Take care of you and yours the best you can. ;)

  16. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No wonder why windows 10 mobile sunk then. It was both overpriced AND crap.

  17. Microsoft is tired of dealing with mobile users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Go to our competitions. We don't care.

  18. There are updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    My Windows phone is with Verizon. It is 6 years old and has not received an update in 5 years.

    1. Re:There are updates? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 0

      and probably still more reliable than the other two phone OSes.

  19. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    This is why we just tell people to go fuck themselves. Less chance of being misunderstood, and less chance of us fucking up the insult.

  20. Re:iOS preferably by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    and poors likely never bought a windows phone

    I believe it was the opposite. When it became clear that it was a flop, carriers sold their old stocks dirt cheap. Thus, only poor people bought WPs.

  21. Uh oh - I know someone with a Surface by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Will they at least be able to run Linux on it now?

    1. Re:Uh oh - I know someone with a Surface by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Actually in reality, that is what M$ should have done. Well, lose in the market place, hmm, why the fuck not, fuck up my competitors and try to make money on the hardware not the software. The M$ Linux phone with a Windows GUI, selling the hardware is better than nothing and well you might just fuckover your competitors in a big way. How much market share could M$ steal from iOS and Android, with a Linux Mobile Phone system, tied into a free open source app landscape and make money selling the hardware and take it from your competitors. It what at least put some cool shine on the turd that is M$, you might not be able to polish it but you can spray it with a coat of paint to make it look better and hide the odour, bwa hah hah.

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    2. Re:Uh oh - I know someone with a Surface by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using "M$" really doesn't do your arguments any favours.

  22. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is poor. Of course he curses.

  23. Re: iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a millionaire and have an Android phone. How does that fit your theory? One reason I am is that I don't throw money around on over-priced hipster stuff.

  24. Good mobile OS, very bad timing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another Microsoft failure, like Zune and Cortana Windows mobile goes down as yet another example of a slow tech company failing to get its act together on competing with others. At least now Microsoft is starting to wind down its obsession with thinking that it can start from the back and win. Although they still have obsessions with Chrome OS, and making Windows way more then it needs to be.

  25. Re:Stick it to Google/Apple - Open source the thin by nukenerd · · Score: 1

    (bold mine)

    And the only way to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more is to Open Source Windows 10.

    The result would be to stick it to Google/Apple too, which would be "icing on the cake."

    Why TF do you think every person currently using open source stuff would want to switch to an open-sourced Windows? It will remain the platform for malware and adware whatever you do to it - partly because the world of admen and scammers needs such a platform. An open source Windows development environment would merely be a battleground between people like you trying or wanting to mend it and the scammers constantly adding more malware to it. At least with Microsoft it's better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

    You think Linux has a lot of forks, but open source Windows would have thousands of them as each scammer promotes their own version and attempts to take control of the others, and Joe WIndowsuser would would suck it all up ("I see your Windows is Out of Date - Click Here to Resolve this Issue"). Anyone with good intent would be the loser.

  26. Re:Stick it to Google/Apple - Open source the thin by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    And the only way to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more is to Open Source Windows 10.

    What do you imagine the result of this would look like?

  27. EOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The news that Windows Phone has reached end of life status will come as a big disappointment to the remaining Windows Phone fans...both of them.

  28. Windows Phone was the best by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm still using a Windows Phone, and I've bought a few backups for when the batteries wear out. I simply won't use a Google or Apple phone because i don't want all of my personal data harvested and sold to anybody with money. Once all of my Windows Phones are dead, i will probably use a flip phone. I already carry around a laptop most of the time, so i can just that for email. This really sucks. Windows Phone was the best mobile OS by a mile. The UI on Apple and Google phones are dogshit. Also, I doubt that Microsoft was harvesting all of my personal data to sell to the highest bidder.

    I trust Google and Apple as much as I trust Facebook and Amazon: Not at all.

    Posted with a Windows Phone.

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    1. Re:Windows Phone was the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that Microsoft just never got around to harvesting your data. . . yet. Windows on the other hand . . .

    2. Re:Windows Phone was the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I doubt that Microsoft was harvesting all of my personal data to sell to the highest bidder."

      lolwut?!

      Although I guess an unsupported phone would be the best bet for avoiding telemetry

    3. Re:Windows Phone was the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me this FEELS like you're saying you'd rather drive a 60's volkswagen bug in the winter in the north where the heat barely works just to avoid seeing a billboard that has things youre interested in buying; instead STILL seeing billboards, just with random things on them.

  29. Why do I keep seeing... by dddux · · Score: 1

    Why do I keep seeing "Microsoft Suggests Windows 10 Users Switch To Linux or MacOS As Support Winds Down"? :)

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  30. Cosmo by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    No, not Cosmo Kramer.

    https://www.indiegogo.com/proj...

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  31. Re:iOS preferably by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > poors likely never bought a windows phone

    Actually it was Windows Phones that were more likely to be in the bargain bin. Nokia phone division never made a profit from Windows Phones in spite of getting a billion a year from Microsoft because they had to sell phones below cost in order to sell them at all.

  32. Re: iOS preferably by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    https://www.theverge.com/2017/...

    If you had a fucking brain asshole, you could have done a google search to see who uses Android phones.

    You would have found both celebrities and also various billionaires.

    Showing that assuming really does make an ass out of you. You specifically. Fucking idiot

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  33. Re:Stick it to Google/Apple - Open source the thin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linux has been open source for 25 or so years, what makes you think open sourcing is the key to consumer adoption?

    Being mostly open-source has helped Android, but that would have died a long time ago without Google pushing it so hard.