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Facebook's Plans For Space Lasers Revealed (ieee.org)

Two new observatories are being built on Mount Wilson in California -- home to the 100-inch Hooker telescope, one of the largest aperture telescopes in the world, and CHARA array, the world's largest optical interferometer. As IEEE Spectrum reports, "they could house Facebook's first laser communications systems designed to connect to satellites in orbit." From the report: Construction permits issued by the County of Los Angeles show that a small company called PointView Tech is building two detached observatories on the mountain peak. PointView is the company that IEEE Spectrum revealed last year to be a previously unknown subsidiary of Facebook working on an experimental satellite called Athena. In April, PointView sought permission from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission to test whether E-band radio signals could "be used for the provision of fixed and mobile broadband access in unserved and underserved areas."

That application was still pending at the FCC before the current U.S. federal government shutdown took effect, but it and other public documents and presentations now strongly suggest that PointView is planning to utilize laser technology, possibly both in Athena and future spacecraft. [...] Planning documents show that construction work on PointView's Mount Wilson observatories began in July and passed inspection in the middle of December. If the observatories are part of a laser satellite installation, they might use an optical ground station conceptually similar to [German company Mynaric]. This transmits its own laser beam up into the atmosphere for a drone -- or potentially a satellite -- to lock on to.
Facebook and the Mount Wilson Institute didn't comment, but the report does go on to cite scientific papers authored by Facebook researchers suggesting that the company is committing resources to orbital lasers. "In a series of papers published in 2017 and 2018, engineers Raichelle Aniceto and Slaven Moro subjected multiple components, including an optical modem, to radiation similar to that experienced on orbit," reports IEEE Spectrum.

38 comments

  1. Yahoo plans for atomic lasers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's right, atomic lasers with turbo and microwave.

    1. Re:Yahoo plans for atomic lasers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped reading at 100-inch Hooker telescope, I mean is it that hard to find a hooker in California?

    2. Re:Yahoo plans for atomic lasers by BlackOverflow · · Score: 1

      Not hard to find a hooker in CA, but it is hard to find a 100-inch one.

  2. Have they lost their minds? by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Funny

    We can't even trust Facebook with our baby pictures, and they wanna give them fickin' SPACE LASERS??

    1. Re:Have they lost their minds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But ... shark satellites!

  3. time for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a visit to facebook HQ with torches and pitchforks

  4. Here's a Thought by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 0

    With Facebook being as provably evil as they are, why not just forbid them from ever doing anything other than Facebook? No reason to get their taint on anything else.

  5. Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not worries until they mount them on sharks... or ill-tempered Sea Bass.

    1. Re:Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I came here to say "sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads".
      But you beat me too it.

    2. Re:Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do I feel the urge to put my pinky next to my mouth every time I read the term "Lasers". A movie or something? Boggles the mind (or what is left of it).

    3. Re:Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I came here to say "sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their heads".
      But you beat me too it.

      Shark With Frickin' Laser Pointer ?

      https://thecooleststuffever.com/shark-frickin-laser-pointer

  6. Clouds by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    How will they workaround clouds? I mean, not the data-center born clouds, but the atmospheric ones, which will block laser beams.

    1. Re: Clouds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Observatories benefit from being built at high altitudes where they're above the cloud layer. I would imagine the lasers would be placed as such in order to avoid being blocked.

      There is something sci-fi kind of cool about this concept, regardless of who is building it.

    2. Re: Clouds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By using differing alternating wavelengths. They already use laser light to penetrate heavy fog and smoke.

    3. Re: Clouds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Coming from Wyoming, (average elevation of just over 4,000 ft) a 5,710-foot mountain is not all that high. In my home town, the top of Mt. Wilson would be a 2,000 foot mine. The surrounding mountains were at 9K and 12K feet.

      Big whoop.

    4. Re:Clouds by dcw3 · · Score: 1
      --
      Just another day in Paradise
  7. Yeah, saw that movie ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the report does go on to cite scientific papers authored by Facebook researchers suggesting that the company is committing resources to orbital lasers

    Hmmm .... tech company mostly owned by complete douchebag billionaire launches frickin' space lasers.

    It almost didn't turn out so well for everybody else.

    1. Re: Yeah, saw that movie ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Telling you bright ideas, all wrapped up in a single paper, in a good journal with space for margin notes. Readers will produce follow on work

  8. Finally, FB has something by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    worth lying to Congress about

  9. The Second Option by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    the report does go on to cite scientific papers authored by Facebook researchers suggesting that the company is committing resources to orbital lasers.

    Sweet, users have been wanting a "dislike" button forever...

    Well instead of that, Facebook has done them one better. After you read a post you can either Like.... or STRIKE them via orbital laser.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:The Second Option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not funny, this is pathetic. +4, pathetic.

  10. oh the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook: the number 1 navel-gazing site, is now turning to the stars to expand its reach.

    1. Re: oh the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Facebook video. Right where everyone belongs

  11. 100-inch Hooker telescope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...would be a good name for a rock band.

    1. Re: 100-inch Hooker telescope... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And all their songs

  12. Aim them at India by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And rid the world of a billion useless shit smelling stinkdu chimps.

    The world would be better off without dotheads.

  13. You forgot to mention the sharks by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 0

    No laser system can be seriously considered when it doesn't involve sharks. Even North Korea is working on them : https://www.pinterest.com/pin/... And Bolton whispers in my ear that I also must mention Iran....

  14. Orbital Mind Control Lasers by mike.mondy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Little known fact. A raid by the U.S. Secret Service has revealed that this Facebook project was coordinated by Steve Jackson Games with documents camouflaged as rules for a card game named Illuminati. Pass phrase "Orbital Mind Control Lasers".

  15. 100 inch hooker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahahaha

  16. ... with SHARKS! by Geodesy99 · · Score: 1

    Just wait, it's not about servicing disadvantaged areas. No doubt they are also funding shark research. Put the two together and .. BAMM! Sharks with Laser BEAMS.

  17. aliens by sad_ · · Score: 1

    the aliens want to be on facebook too!

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    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
    1. Re:aliens by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Just goes to prove that there's no intelligent life out in the universe.

  18. Oh Boy by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Grabbing popcorn while I wait for the feedback on "100-inch Hooker telescope".

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    Just another day in Paradise
  19. a new meaning to the sentence. by fluffythedestroyer · · Score: 1

    thank god theres the word telescope beside 100-inch hooker.

  20. Support Mt. Wilson by g01d4 · · Score: 1

    It'd be nice if they could throw some of their money at the non-profit maintaining the observatory.

  21. Clouds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LASER is light. Ranging from 10,000 nanometers (far infrared) to around 200 for far ultraviolet. All these wavelengths would be significantly impacted (much worse than the 12-13GHz frequencies now in use by satellite providers) by clouds.

  22. Least Interesting Usage of Words "100 Inch Hooker" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am disappoint.