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Google Considering Pulling News Service From Europe (bloomberg.com)

Google is considering pulling its Google News service from Europe as regulators work toward a controversial copyright law. From a report: The European Union's Copyright Directive will give publishers the right to demand money from Alphabet, Facebook and other web platforms when fragments of their articles show up in news search results, or are shared by users. The law was supposed to be finalized this week but was delayed by disagreement among member states.

Google News might quit the continent in response to the directive, said Jennifer Bernal, Google's public policy manager for Europe, the Middle East and Africa. The internet company has various options, and a decision to pull out would be based on a close reading of the rules and taken reluctantly, she said. "The council needs more time to reflect in order to reach a solid position" on the directive, said a representative of Romania, current head of the European Council, which represents the 28 member nations.

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  1. Oh no by 110010001000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where will Europeans get their news from? Maybe Slashdot?

  2. Link Tax? by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I presume the fuss is over the supposed "hyper-link tax" which has to be one the most idiotic ideas I've come across in my adult life. This is not how the web is supposed to work. There is no way that paying one site to provide a link to site makes any sense in any rational being's mind.

    If there's going to be *ANY* exchange of cash for hyperlinks, it totally should be the opposite direction. Site A pays Site B to entice Site B to link to Site A's pages. Paid promotion of your content. This sort of makes sense, I can tolerate it at least. But Site A paying Site B for the "privilege" of linking to pages on Site B. STUPID BEYOND BELIEF.

    If anything shackles the internet in the EU, this is it right here. Proceed with caution, you're going to basically crack the internet's entire foundation of sharing information.

    1. Re:Link Tax? by ljw1004 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I presume the fuss is over the supposed "hyper-link tax" which has to be one the most idiotic ideas I've come across in my adult life.

      Why presume when you can actually find out? The article says:

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news...
      Google is considering pulling its Google News service from Europe as regulators work toward a controversial copyright law. The European Union’s Copyright Directive will give publishers the right to demand money from the Alphabet Inc. unit, Facebook Inc. and other web platforms when fragments of their articles show up in news search results, or are shared by users.

      The wikipedia page for the EU Copyright Directive explains:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      The proposal [includes...] exemptions for either copying an "insubstantial" part of a work ... The version of the directive voted on by European Parliament Committee on Legal Affairs contained explicit exemptions for the act of hyperlinking and "legitimate private and non-commercial use of press publications by individual users"

      So it looks like this is specifically *not* about a "hyperlink tax", and either Google specifically wants to be copying substantial parts of a copyright work without paying the owners, or something more subtle is going on (and hence we can expect to see simplifications, distortions, and clickbait designed to inflame responses).

    2. Re:Link Tax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is not a hyper-link tax. You can link all you want. What you cannot do anymore is scrape some of the content from the site, call it a quote, and present it on your own site without consent from the copyright owner.

  3. One way or another... by forkfail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the Powers That Be (tm) are intent on returning to single source fount of information.

    This whole internet thing threw a spanner in the works for a few years, but looks like it's being reigned in.

    Back to business as usual.

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  4. Analogy Added by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 2

    This "link tax" is about the same as saying: I have to pay an author of a book royalties if I suggest to others that they read it, perhaps quoting a passage or paragraph from that book in my effort to get you to read it.

    Does this make sense to anyone? Of course it doesn't. The world doesn't work like that.

    But in the magical fairy land of the EU, this is precise what they want to do. You pay the author if you even want to suggest others read the author's content. STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's not enough exclamation points in the universe to properly emphasize this!

    1. Re:Analogy Added by Mandrel · · Score: 2

      A book is not a good analogy for news. A snippet of news can give away the whole story. Not true for a book, unless the snippet is from the climax, twist, or last page.

  5. Re:What a shame (not) by colonslash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The relationship is much more symbiotic than parasitical; Google News pulled out of Spain at the end of 2014 for a similar link tax, and the publishers floundered:
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/...

            [the] 'substitution effect' is very small in comparison to the 'market expansion effect' that aggregators cause.

  6. duh by spongman · · Score: 3, Funny

    they should just shut it down for a few days and see how quickly all those news outlets complain to their MEPs about lost ad revenue.

  7. yep, fsck 'em by swschrad · · Score: 2

    I can see blocking service from pinhead weasels like the EU. they don't want any accidental usage, shut 'em down. Google News is not free... it's ad-driven. and even use of a US trademark legally in an ad that might be otherwise registered in the EU, like, say, Budweiser, is cause for big-ass unrelated fines. fsck 'em.

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  8. robots.txt by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If news companies don't want Google indexing their content, they should just say so in their robots.txt file. There's no reason for Google to completely abandon the EU, and there's no reason for content owners to complain that others are indexing their content when they have a perfectly functionality way of controlling whether or not the content is indexed.

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    1. Re:robots.txt by EvilSS · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh but that's just it: They don't want to get delisted from google news, that would cost them tons of traffic that they need. They just want to force Google to pay them for indexing and linking to them.

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  9. Re:What a shame (not) by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This. As a European I say: good on Google for pulling out if this dumb law gets passed.

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  10. Re: What a shame (not) by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    It's funny because in french, "EU" ~ "É.U." = the acronym for "États-Unis" (United States).

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  11. you are so stupid as usual by cheekyboy · · Score: 2

    The last time google pulled news from Germany, the news paper websites lost 70% traffic redirects....

    So suck on that looser.

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  12. Maybe robots.txt should be inverted by Solandri · · Score: 2

    i.e. Search engine crawlers should not index the site, unless the site owner explicitly allows it in the robots.txt file.

    I mean I completely understand why it's set up the way it is. Setting the robots.txt to disallow crawling doesn't actually disallow crawling. It's just that the services which respect the file won't crawl your site if you have it set to disallow them. Inverting it gives the false sense that unless you explicitly allow crawlers, it is somehow impossible for them to index your site.

    But that seems to be what the EU legal system wants. So maybe that's the way it should work, despite the false sense of security it may give the more clueless people.