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Can AI-Controlled Cameras Replace An Air Traffic Control Tower? (bloomberg.com)

London's Heathrow airport is testing a surprising new system involving high-definition cameras, monitoring 50,000 arrivals in the month of March. Bloomberg reports: Views from the cameras will be fed into an artificial intelligence platform from Canada's Searidge Technologies Inc. that will interpret the images and reveal to controllers when a particular aircraft has cleared the runway, allowing them to clear the next flight to come in to land... If successful, the system will initially be deployed when Heathrow's 285-foot control tower is shrouded in cloud -- a situation that currently compels the airport to rely on radar readings to determine the position of jets. That in turn requires a bigger gap between flights, costing the hub nine landings an hour or 20 percent of the usual total...

The same technology could also control the airport's $22 billion third runway due to open for flights by 2025, removing the need to construct a new control tower to oversee the strip north and west of the existing one. The smaller London City airport is removing its tower altogether and deploying a mast with zoom cameras, allowing flights to be managed from the Swanwick control center more than 80 miles away.

67 comments

  1. Can Al Qaeda Controlled Slashdot Defeat Trump? by Charbroiled++PENIS · · Score: 0

    Lol

    1. Re:Can Al Qaeda Controlled Slashdot Defeat Trump? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DUBAI (lookup BizX whipslash's controller). Globalist control.

  2. Answer: no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aitraffic controllers do a lot more than just look out the window to see when an airplane has taken off.

    1. Re: Answer: no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is not up to you terrorist, you can tell immigrants lies but they do not have to believe them

    2. Re:Answer: no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since there aren't any good software developers anymore, no.

    3. Re:Answer: no by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Almost sounds to me like you're responding an entirely different question, since the original was about a tower.

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    4. Re:Answer: no by stooo · · Score: 1

      Youre right.
      The answer is no, and the full article is bullshit.
      Anyone who knows a thing on ATC knows cameras are not involved and are not a good idea to locate planes.

      Furthermore, current A.I. has absolutely no accountability and traceability on the decisions and guesses it makes, making it totally unsuitable for safety critical applications.

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    5. Re:Answer: no by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, current A.I. has absolutely no accountability and traceability on the decisions and guesses it makes

      A curious claim. Does your definition of "current AI" exclude the automatic reasoning systems with tracing that we've had for decades by now?

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  3. To replace it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It will be your peril and you will pay the fatal failures.

  4. Billionaires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds likes the billionaires want to find a way to shut the government down permanently and get all the unpaid serfs to get loans they can't pay off just to eat. They want at least 25% unemployment. Identified servitude is great for business. Can't call it slavery when you're not making them do any work. Fuck with the little man. MAGA!

    1. Re: Billionaires by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No its terrorists posing as immigrants who want to destroy billionaires and the government at the same time so their terror will be complete (see what I did there?)

  5. The Real ATC are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    holed up in a windowless, thankless, glamorless building. You are thinking of people in the tower who control the airport grounds.

  6. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next!

  7. To a degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For the day to day and organization of flights I can see AI being able to handle that brilliantly. For more unusual issues I'd imagine controllers will still be needed though; a lot of the issues that are face are oddball ones. A mayday call for instance can involve anything from having an ambulance waiting in the terminal to having a paramilitary response team on the tarmac with fire and EMT's closeby. More mundane but unusual issues such coordinating reports of hazards to other aircraft (think birds, wildlife, debris on the taxi / runways).

    You've also got times with radar and other sensor equipment going down at once; loss of radar was a factor in the 2002 Überlingen mid-air collision (though the fault lay in the traffic controllers breaking company policy and managers tolerating it).

    That said, if a computer is able to handle even 20% to 30% of the workload, and can integrate well into the controllers workflow, then it's worth looking at. This leaves more mental focus for controllers to deal with situations that the computer isn't good at.

    1. Re:To a degree by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You sound like you have an actual clue about sort of, well, stuff and things like that. Would you care to drop it in the bin as you depart? It will be redistributed to the users of this site who are in desperate need of one.

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    2. Re:To a degree by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      You madam/sir make fare to much sence for /. :) Thank you for taking the time to post even if it was ac
      Have a nice day

    3. Re:To a degree by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      A lot of misreading going on. Replacing the tower with remote sensing is not replacing the controller. Instead, the controller moves to an area control centre and deals with screens instead of glass windows.

      Really two stories here: automated queue event notification, and remote tower operations.

      The AI system is an improvement on existing queue software that is already in use. The system may indicate that a clearance enabling event has occurred but ATC still has to provide the clearance to the aircraft in question. The AI part is analysis of sensor inputs to provide queue info to ATC. The expected performance improvement should allow inbound aircraft to bunch up more, and increase the rate of takeoffs.

      Not revolutionary by any means.

    4. Re: To a degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The *headline* is misleading. We really need to stop using the term 'AI', which is in itself misleading. We're just talking about better software, here, there is no 'AI'.

    5. Re: To a degree by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Yeah, "AI" is now a meaningless marketing term instead of a meaningless computing term.

    6. Re:To a degree by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "For the day to day and organization of flights I can see AI being able to handle that brilliantly. For more unusual issues I'd imagine controllers will still be needed though"

      Because leaving human intervention *only* for emergencies while automatic systems take care of the 99% of mundane issues, have offered such brilliant results in the past.

    7. Re:To a degree by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "A lot of misreading going on. Replacing the tower with remote sensing is not replacing the controller. Instead, the controller moves to an area control centre and deals with screens instead of glass windows."

      Are you sure about that? The article states that operations will be moved, but it doesn't say a word about the controllers themselves. And even if that's true today, are you sure that once the system is in place it won't be used to increase the ratio of flights-per-controller in the future?

      That's never been the case, right?

    8. Re:To a degree by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Pretty much sure. Yeah. Read the article.

      "won't be used to increase the ratio of flights-per-controller"
      The article directly states that this will increase the amount of traffic that can be handled, so yes, I am almost certain individual controller traffic will increase. This is totally in line with providing ATC with all kinds of tools over the past century from analog radar and vhf radios to computerized traffic tracking systems.

      The article still is not about replacing controllers with AI software.

    9. Re: To a degree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The system is already at capacity,at least in at major facilities in the US. We can land at 2.5 miles between arrivals and that is the minimum to let preceeding aircraft exit runway. We can go less if tower provides visual and separation

  8. No. Fuck No. Next Question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. Fuck No. Next Question.

  9. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eliminate all union jobs so they cannot hold your country hostage.

    1. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      Profits.make()
      Except (commonsenseexception)
      SeekEasierTarget(getRandomTerrorStrategy())

    2. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  11. You really need AI ? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    To tell when a plane has left the runway ?
    If the purpose of the tower is to actually see the plane, you can't just put a camera at the end of the runway looking down it and route it to a display ?

    1. Re:You really need AI ? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Its for all the unusual things a computer might not have the ability to consider.
      The wrong rate of climb in the wrong way.
      Smoke and fire.
      A plane might report its abandoning take off due to a mechanical problem.
      The crew is unaware of a large fire and a lot of smoke.
      Thats extra seconds to call for equipment.

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    2. Re:You really need AI ? by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      My favorite game for the Osbourne I back in the 1980s was "Air Traffic Controller"- done entirely in text mode.

      Anything that was a game in the early 1980s, is easily done with AI now.

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    3. Re:You really need AI ? by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Yeah I can see that but this is what they are talking about

      Views from the cameras will be fed into an artificial intelligence platform from Canada's Searidge Technologies Inc. that will interpret the images and reveal to controllers when a particular aircraft has cleared the runway, allowing them to clear the next flight to come in to land.

      So like I said just give the tower cameras hell you want to get fancy put a radar on the runway and ping the plane

  12. robot AI developers by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    AI and computers/robots are being used to replace higher income jobs to increase profits for companies.
    When some idiot programmer develops AI applications to develop AI applications, the AI programmers will be on the scrap heap.
    The cut even cost for robots replacing telephone sanitisers means their jobs are safe.

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  13. Can Markov chain generators replace journalists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In principle yes, in practice you're probably better off with a person doing the job. Air traffic controlling, I mean.

  14. Could work with self taxiing / flying planes by joe_frisch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Self flying / taxxing aircraft aren't that difficult a problem and they would interact well with automated air traffic control. As long as there are humans though, I think fully automated traffic control would be difficult. Instructions are still given by voice and they can be misunderstood and / or garbled etc.

    Automation is also very poor at dealing with unusual situations - say a major earthquake at SFO that might have damaged runways, or a piece of debris falling off of a plane and creating a hazard, or a confused inexperienced (or sometimes experienced) pilot blundering into the wrong airspace. I think some humans will be needed to deal with these sorts of situations.

  15. Re:Answer: Yes by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Answer: Yes.

    If you still have humans in the loop, decisions will be delayed when seconds count, and the biggest mistakes will happen when the controllers are exhausted and confused.

    The worst aircraft accident in history was the 1977 Tenerife airport disaster in the Canary Islands. 583 people died in a cascade of errors, miscommunication, and poor judgement calls, as exhausted controllers dealt with heavy fog, delayed flights, and frustrated pilots.

    One pilot thought he had clearance to takeoff on a runway that another plane was given clearance to cross. Automated cameras would have detected this problem, and could have automatically ordered the planes to stop. This wouldn't even need AI. Just a dumb algorithm would have saved hundreds of lives.

  16. Absolutely 100% by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    Can AI-Controlled Cameras Replace An Air Traffic Control Tower?

    Absolutely. Sure flying might become Russian roulette but hey, you did replace the ATCs didn't you? ;)

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    1. Re:Absolutely 100% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, if they put that thing over the davos airport these days of the year for betatesting nothing of value could ever be lost unless you think you need the ruling class overlords

    2. Re:Absolutely 100% by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      Uh, not about replacing ATC's. It is about providing better information tools and replacing local towers with remote sensing. It still all feeds to controllers who sit in a quiet control centre environment instead of in a tower. They have screens with camera displays and sensor information instead of windows and binoculars. Hopefully this eliminates blind spots that all local towers suffer from.

      Remote ATC and automated air traffic queue systems have been around for decades. I would view this as an incremental improvement of existing systems and processes.

    3. Re:Absolutely 100% by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Uh, not about replacing ATC's.

      Are you implying that the title is a lie?

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    4. Re:Absolutely 100% by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

      No, the title asks if AI software and cameras replace a tower. It does not say replace controllers or create AI ATC. The article itself refers to enhancing controller information with AI analysis of remote sensing and replacing a local tower with cameras which feed to a remote ACC.

      I think people just assume that removing a physical structure means replacing the people with computers. Nothing actually says that; not stated and not implied.

    5. Re:Absolutely 100% by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      Reading instead of blindly commenting? Where's the fun in that? ;)

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  17. Re:Answer: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't need cameras for this. Software can use ASDE data to monitor ground traffic and warn of potential runway incursions, of aircraft and other vehicles.

  18. When the pattern is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they're using an AI to predict when the plane is clear of the runway, rather than analyzing the image to determine that it is *actually* clear, then I have a problem with this. The problem comes about when through some unusual circumstance a plane *doesn't* clear the runway even though it has, up to that point, matched the pattern the AI is looking for -- and the AI essentially presumes that all is well and suggests that ATC clear the next plane in.

  19. LHR Third Runway 2025 by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

    No chance in hell Heathrow will open a third runway in 2025. It is unlikely they will even have a ground-breaking by then.

  20. Much like self driving cars by doginthewoods · · Score: 1

    Not only cameras, but monitoring the distance between planes, when they are in position to take off, the engine spool - up and launch, and rate of climb until the plane is out of the area. Likewise in reverse for landings - watch landing speeds, position, etc. Much like self driving cars that need human monitoring, automation at least at this point, can't account for unseen variables and therefor, a human must be monitoring at all times. both flight controller and pilot. It would be possible for AI to make sure the flights are properly spaced and staying within parameters. Yes this would be very valuable for inclement weather takeoffs and landings. Imagine an AI being able to check tarmac conditions to account for water or ice, which affects landing distance, and being able to let the tower and pilot know so they can compensate. I see it as a safety measure more than as traffic management matter

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    1. Re:Much like self driving cars by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "Much like self driving cars that need human monitoring, automation at least at this point, can't account for unseen variables and therefor, a human must be monitoring at all times."

      Humans can't account for unseen variables either. Maybe you meant unforeseeable? Because a computer can "see" a lot more than a human, and faster too. Multiple cameras, radar, altimeter, engine speeds, fuel pressures, much much faster sense of motion than any human...

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    2. Re: Much like self driving cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing is unforeseeable. Claims of "accidents" are a result of negligence in not properly assessing risks.

      Whether you want to blame the blind pedestrian crossing at a cross walk with the light, the driver who is not paying attention to their driver assistance computer, or the maker of the not a "self driving" car, someone either didn't bother to plan for it, or decided the risk was not worth mitigating (aka meteor proof roof).

  21. Re: Answer: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In other news, AI can replace ShanghaiBill's overly optimistic about technology posting habits. /sarcasm

    The same algorithm that protects a life can also be compromised to end another. Make it a big enough target and it will be hacked. Blindlying declaring that an algorithm should be in control over human intervention, is short sighted at best, and begging for innocent people to die at worst.

  22. Clouds by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    If successful, the system will initially be deployed when Heathrow's 285-foot control tower is shrouded in cloud

    How can camera work around clouds?

    1. Re:Clouds by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      When they're on the ground, below the clouds.

    2. Re:Clouds by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      I now wonder why control is installed in towers, if that is enough to prevent seeing what is relevant.

    3. Re:Clouds by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Towers are usually built to oversee the whole airport, or at least as much of it as possible, from one place. The only way to do that is to be up high. If you're willing to use cameras, and you've got some way to coordinate them (that's why the AI), then you can stick them on the ground, wherever you need. At each end of each runway, probably everywhere a taxiway exits a runway, all around the ramp, etc.

  23. Not about replacing humans .... by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

    Remote ATC has been in operation for at least 50 years. This is just a natural extension of existing operations. For example: the Edmonton FIR (maybe world's largest) uses remote VHF transceivers to provide direct control of Northern locations. The controller is in Edmonton but talks directly to traffic in the Yukon, NW, and Nunavet Territories.

    High definition cameras may provide better operational coverage than a local tower. There is a real opportunity to integrate infrared sensing and ground radar systems to provide useful information even in bad weather. Control of ground operations in a busy airport can be a nightmare with unexpected and asynchronous events causing all sorts of problems. Replacing the glass window and binoculars with screens may reduce environmental distractions and lower controller anxiety. Good information and no blind spots goes a long way to improving safety.

    Once the tower controller's view is changed from a window to a screen, it really doesn't matter where the controller sits as long as the communication link is reliable and has low latency. As always, better networks create opportunities for new services.

    Remote presence tech is well established. This is no surprise.

  24. Re:Answer: Yes by dogsbreath · · Score: 2

    I did not get that they are replacing controllers. They are providing additional tools and remote sensing. The system does not provide automated clearances to pilots as far as I understand it.

    "Views from the cameras will be fed into an artificial intelligence platform from Canada’s Searidge Technologies Inc. that will interpret the images and reveal to controllers when a particular aircraft has cleared the runway, allowing them to clear the next flight to come in to land."

  25. What else can you "AI"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sheer number of "AI" articles on Slashdot make it clear that AI is a solution desperately in search of a problem. This would be great if we actually had functioning AI, but none of what's being reported as AI is actually AI.

    For this problem of detecting when planes had left the runway we used to use the decidely Old Tech solution of building strain gauges into the concrete sections. Much cheaper. And bulletproof.

  26. Re: Answer: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's beauhd's butt buddy. Good to know.

  27. Ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put Donald Trump on the first test take off and landing.

  28. *** NO! *** by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    'nuff said.

  29. Well, SURE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The artificially intelligent controllers of the SKY can even form a sort of NETwork which WILL CONTROL ALL OF HUMANITY'S air traffic and will be a more efficient and safe way to ensure the FUTURE of air travel !!!

  30. IDIOTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a lot more to say. Just like trying to put self driving cars on existing roads, except the stakes are higher.

  31. Re:Answer: Yes by turbidostato · · Score: 1

    "One pilot thought he had clearance to takeoff on a runway that another plane was given clearance to cross. Automated cameras would have detected this problem"

    On heavy fog? Doubtful.

    As you say, main problem was miscommunication and the after-fact was an update on protocol communications (more strict vocabulary an syntax, mainly).

    The problem here is not that technology can't help -it certainly can, but that it's not going to be implemented to increase security but to lower costs: you see, cameras will be deployed so they can save money on another control tower and, you can bet, on tower controllers since now the same people will take responsibility of more runaways. Nice for security, yeah.

  32. Re:Answer: Yes by turbidostato · · Score: 1

    "I did not get that they are replacing controllers"

    Well, I do so: "The smaller London City airport is removing its tower altogether and deploying a mast with zoom cameras, allowing flights to be managed from the Swanwick control center more than 80 miles away."

    They surely will move each and every controller to Swanwick, yeah, sure. And for new deployments, they'll hire just as many controllers as they would do if they were deploying new control towers along new strips, yeah, sure.

  33. Technically yes but No because responsibility by fygment · · Score: 1

    Technically possible but ...
    People will always want a person/organization to be held accountable when things go wrong.
    Any person who will be held accountable will want to ensure some control over that for which they are accountable.
    So there will always be a human in the loop as long as people expect there to be a human to blame when things go wrong.

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  34. Re:Answer: Yes by dogsbreath · · Score: 1

    So some consolidation may occur, what of it. The workload is what it is whether at a local tower location or at a remote ACC.

    The point is that this is not AI software replacing humans. Good grief, get a grip.

  35. Re: Answer: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was the pilots fault.