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LSD Changes Something About the Way People Perceive Time, Even At Microdoses (vice.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Tonic: The perception of time is a fundamental process of the brain, linked tightly to attention, emotions, memory, psychiatric and neurological disorders, and even consciousness -- but while scientists have been anecdotally noting how drugs can change time perception for decades, very few have been able to address the question rigorously with tightly designed studies. Cognitive neuroscientist Devin Terhune says he's been interested in understanding the neurochemical mechanisms involved in the distortions in the perception of time, and these drugs are one way to do that. Psychedelics act on specific pathways and chemicals in the brain, and if they also change the perception of time, we could learn exactly how it happens. At the end of November, Terhune and his co-authors published a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study in Psychopharmacology on the effects of microdoses of LSD on people's perception of time. They found that even at small doses, LSD seems to change the way people interpret time, though the specifics of how and when are still to be determined.

In the new work, 48 healthy people were split up into four groups. One group got a placebo, and the other three received different small doses of LSD: 5, 10, or 20 micrograms. Then, they did what's called a temporal reproduction task. In this task, you see something on a screen for a certain amount of time -- in the study it was a blue circle -- and are asked to remember and recreate how long you saw it. The participants were shown a blue circle for periods of time from 800 milliseconds all the way up to 4,000 milliseconds, in increments of 400 milliseconds. Terhune and his colleagues looked to see how accurate the different groups of people were in reproducing those intervals, and found that the people in the LSD groups tended to hold down the space bar for significantly longer periods of time than the placebo condition. The researchers call this "over-reproduction."
"Terhune says that they saw these changes in time perception without any major conscious effects from the drug," the report adds. "They asked people to report if they felt anything from taking the LSD, like perceptual distortions, unusual thoughts, if they felt high, or if it affected their concentration. There were a couple of weak effects, but statistically, the change in time perception happened independent of any subjective influence of the drug."

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  1. I wonder how the effects compare to... by dpilot · · Score: 2

    I wonder how the effects compare to Heptapod B, for changing time perception.

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  2. LSD effects Time Perception? by skam240 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Way to tell anyone who has ever done LSD what they already know.

    It's a drug, it fucks with your brain. How profound is it that effects your sense of time perception? Not at all.

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    1. Re:LSD effects Time Perception? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Way to tell anyone who has ever done LSD what they already know.

      It's a drug, it fucks with your brain. How profound is it that effects your sense of time perception? Not at all.

      It's profound because they did it with objective, repeatable, measurable criteria. It's profound because not only is it an instance of 'rigorous science', it also happens to be 'elegant rigorous science' insofar as the slashdot summary, usually a domain of crap, clearly described how anyone (who happens to possess measurable 5ug doses of LSD) can recreate and verify the results. It's profound because that kind of a scientific foundation can be rationally estimated as leading to further scientific knowledge advancement to the point that not only will we know precisely what the time-distortion effect is, but how exactly it works. It's profound because it's reasonable to assume that that sort of knowledge has a high probability in being used for extremely good and/or extremely evil purposes by good people with power, and bad people with power (at least the power to manufacture and administer lysergic acid diethelymine. A non-trivial amount of power).

      It's profound because it's such an Elegant example of what the United States legal code relating to 'schedule 1' has been responsible for as far as retarding the advancement of science.

      Dude, it's pretty fucking profound. But for all I know perhaps you need to trip a hundred times over 10 years ago to conceive of such profundity.

  3. Re: Tracers by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

    I was thinking something similar. But Tfs stated that they asked if the participants noticed any effects like this.

    Perhaps they should have had a 3 x3 foot panel with a hundred or so LEDs on it and asked the participants to shake their head back and forth to check for trails.

  4. Are you kidding me? by Petersko · · Score: 2, Funny

    How is this news? In 2000 I took 6 tabs and we somehow stumbled across the South Park movie on TV. It lasted for eight hours and our chests hurt from laughing.

    Acid makes 5 minutes feel like an hour. Did that need studying?

    1. Re:Are you kidding me? by sysrammer · · Score: 5, Informative

      How is this news? ... Did that need studying?

      It's the difference between an anecdote and a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study in Psychopharmacology.

      Science works.

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    2. Re:Are you kidding me? by yarbo · · Score: 2

      The non-placebo group got an imperceptible dose, not a 10-strip. That's in the summary. You tell them they can't drive, to have someone ready to pick them up, you get a medical history and screen for mental illness. The test was conducted by having them reproduce a time period by holding a space bar, not by asking if they knew what time it was or how long had passed. That's in the summary. Psilocybin is the best drug for smoking cessation by a large margin ( https://www.hopkinsmedicine.or... ). LSD may have the same promise. You may find that silly, but that could save tens of thousands of lives in the US every year. 70% of smokers want to quit: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/da... 480,000 people die per year from smoking https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/da... If all 70% that wanted to quit took psilocybin we'd be talking about over 200k lives saved per year. And that's not the only thing psychedelics can be used to treat!

  5. Driving by godel_56 · · Score: 2

    Since various Yuppie types have advocated taking microdosed LSD to increase their creativity at work, I wonder what affect this has on their ability to drive?

  6. Re:How do I get on that study? by sysrammer · · Score: 2

    ...and then...bunnies!...

    ...and if they were to do all these experiments in a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study in Psychopharmacology, we would find out an incredible amount of verifiable data about the brain (and LSD, ofc).

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  7. First Post! by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Funny

    or it could just be the LSD....

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  8. The researchers call this "over-reproduction." by sandbagger · · Score: 2

    In laymen's terms, stoned.

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  9. LDS is even worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Two years of my youth simply vanished, compared to my peers. Then three hours every Sunday.

    Don’t get me started on the temple sessions where time moved so slowly that the only way to escape was by dozing.

  10. So. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No one has made a comment about Bandersnatch

  11. Re: Tracers by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You just broadcasted your cluelessness. Not only is LSD not addictive, it is self limiting. Tolerance increases extrremely rapidly. To get the same effects tomorrow as you experienced when you take 50 uGrams today you will need 500 the next day. While some have access to enough that they can trip repeatedly, nobody actually wants their high to last in permanence. IOW an LSD trip is a great place to visit, but you would *never* want to live there.

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  12. Speeds up your brain's refresh rate by mveloso · · Score: 2

    LDS speeds up the refresh rate of your brain. You might "see" the object every 50ms normally. With LSD you "see" the object every 5ms; you're paying more attention more often, and we measure time by attention. 10x more views = 10x more time, give or take.

    1. Re:Speeds up your brain's refresh rate by Mordaximus · · Score: 2

      LDS speeds up the refresh rate of your brain. You might "see" the object every 50ms normally. With LSD you "see" the object every 5ms; you're paying more attention more often, and we measure time by attention....

      Damned LPBs.

  13. LSD isn't the only thing that has this property by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sit in a bar and you'll see time fly by, sit in a meeting and you can watch seconds turn to hours.

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  14. Re: Tracers by LostMyAccount · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is so true -- one hit today, means two tomorrow and three the day after that to get back to something like one had today.

    My problem was always that the good part of acid didn't last long enough and the last half of the trip was always too long with all the good effects dwindled down. Taking more (even if it wasn't a second day trip) didn't really help, either -- the good part got more intense and maybe lasted longer, but the lingering effects lasted longer yet.

    I mostly switched to mushrooms, which gave me mostly the same experience but with less "tail end" effect.

    I haven't had acid in probably 25 years, but I'd do it again if I had some Xanax or something else to bring the whole thing to an end when I wanted it to end.