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US Accuses Huawei of Stealing Trade Secrets, Defrauding Banks (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: U.S. prosecutors filed criminal charges against Huawei, China's largest smartphone maker, alleging it stole trade secrets from an American rival and committed bank fraud by violating sanctions against doing business with Iran. Huawei has been the target of a broad U.S. crackdown, including allegations it sold telecommunications equipment that could be used by the China's Communist Party for spying. The charges filed Monday also mark an escalation of tensions between the world's two largest economies, which are mired in a trade war that has roiled markets. In a 13-count indictment in Brooklyn, New York, the government alleged Huawei, two affiliated companies and its chief financial officer of fraud and conspiracy in connection with deals in Iran. A 10-count indictment in Washington state accused the company of stealing trade secrets from T-Mobile and offering bonuses to employees who succeeded in getting technology from rivals.

T-Mobile sued Huawei and its U.S.-based unit, Huawei Device USA Inc., in 2014, and three years later, a federal jury in Seattle found Huawei liable for both breach of contract and misappropriation of trade secrets. A person familiar with the case, who sought anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak, said T-Mobile's claims regarding the theft of its technology caught the attention of federal authorities in the Western District of Washington. T-Mobile said Huawei sent its engineers to T-Mobile's Bellevue, Washington, facility to see a robot, called "Tappy," which simulates smartphone use. T-Mobile said in its lawsuit that Huawei was able to use stolen parts from the robot to "develop, improve and troubleshoot its own robot."
Separately, Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada on allegations that she committed fraud to sidestep sanctions against Iran. "The U.S., which had requested Canadian authorities arrest Meng, must submit a formal extradition request for her by Jan. 30," Bloomberg reports. "Canada's justice minister then has up to 30 days to assess it. If she issues an 'authority to proceed,' that means Canada is officially moving to extradition hearings. If so, they would likely be scheduled months later."

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  1. FAILURE TO COMPETE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Huawei won the race to 5G. Sure they might have had state backing.
    But US companies had all the funds the Fed was shovelling for the last 10 years and they did nothing but sack their R&D, pay C-suite billions in bonuses, and fuck over customers with monopoly rates and shitty service.
    US Capitalism elected to stand still for 10 years and shit themselves after Huawei pulled off a Sputnik-style vertical launch platform with 5G.

    Yeah, NSA is mad, but deep down at the bottom of this is the simple truth that post-crisis US companies are unable to complete AT ALL and now need heavy handed Government proscription of competition to survive. This will extend to Japanese and EU companies as the US lead in technology falls as far behind as the US production base.

    Not that you will ever hear about it in the media.

    1. Re:FAILURE TO COMPETE by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Stolen, what a crock of shite. It was given away by US corporations who wanted to break the backs of US Unions by purposefully shifting out all jobs, impoverishing US workers and leaving them desperate and willing to accept crumbs. China stole it, fuck off, the US gave it away because they were short term thinking psychopathic cunts and they were warned of this outcome years ago, I should now, I participated in the warnings but short term insane psychopathic thinking, could not see beyond destroying American unions, with corporate executives having all the power to dominate the globe, insane shite from the insane. The outcome well you killed the unions but killed your industry at the same time, big fucking win, you idiotic morons.

      All that is happening now, it that it is making the US, look like insanely corrupt psychopaths for whom the rule of law means nothing and bullshit is everything, they just lie, all of the fucking time, lie, lie, lie, it never stops and the world is just responding back with lip service now, nobody trust the US government at all and especially not Americans. Look at the fucking spectacle you are making of yourselves, only overweening absurd arrogance is hiding the reality from Americans. Still think they are winning, whilst actually losing all over the place.

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    2. Re:FAILURE TO COMPETE by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The charges don't make any sense. The claim that they tried to steal a robot from T-Mobile called "Tappy". T-Mobile didn't build it though, it's an off-the-shelf Epson robot with some basic programming.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      http://web.archive.org/web/201...

      It seems extremely unlikely that Huawei would bother steal something that they could just buy and get an undergrad to program for them. All i does is press some buttons in sequence over and over to see how long they take to fail. Some simple calibration for pressure to simulate a heavy handed user is all you need.

      Huawei didn't steal 5G tech, it invented it. Its patents cover the modulation schemes, the bandwidth allocation and spectrum sharing, the power management that minimizes interference and maximizes battery life. If those things were stolen then they would have been patented elsewhere, or the patents challenged. It's original technology that China developed.

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    3. Re:FAILURE TO COMPETE by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank goodness we have posters from China

      Yeah I prefer the Slashdot standard discussion of ad hominem attacks greatly to someone actually addressing the content of posts.

      But I disagree with you that the AC is from China, so you're clearly a shill for the CCEC (Consortium for Claiming Everyone is Chinese.)

    4. Re:FAILURE TO COMPETE by sgt_doom · · Score: 2

      I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that does not excuse all the billions of hacks undertaken by China's Ministry of State Security cyber warfare section through their various corporations, etc. Go back and check how many g-workers whose personnel data was swiped in the OPM hack had their bank accounts drained.

  2. Chicom company by WCMI92 · · Score: 2

    Selling stuff to Iran. Bypassing the embargos that Obama lifted that Trump reinstated. Among other crimes.

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    1. Re:Chicom company by Jzanu · · Score: 4, Informative

      You mean this ?

      "As part of an international agreement on the Iranian nuclear programme, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) of 14 July 2015, the UNSC adopted unanimously resolution 2231 on 20 July 2015. It stipulates it will change the UN sanctions on Iran as soon as the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) provides a report to the UNSC which conforms that Iran has taken the actions related to its nuclear programme specified in the JCPOA. From the JCPOA Adoption Day, which occurred on 18 october 2015, the provisions related to restrictions on the export from and transfer to Iran of conventional weapons or related goods and services are no longer blanket embargoes.

      Instead the Security Council decides on a case-by-case basis whether to permit the transfer of goods and technology that could contribute to the development of nuclear weapon delivery systems based on the inclusion of appropriate end-user guarantees and Iran committing not to use such items for nuclear weapon delivery systems. This provision will be lifted 8 years after the JCPOA Adoption Day, i.e. on 18 october 2023."

    2. Re: Chicom company by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 2

      Also, you know Japan attacked the US, right?

      Actually, it is the other way around. The Japanese had this nice, closed, peaceful country, which wanted only one thing, to be left in peace. And then the Americans shot at them and threatened them.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  3. Cisco equipment with NSA addons by thesjaakspoiler · · Score: 5, Informative

    I do recall that the NSA was intercepting Cisco hardware to install backdoors on those systems. https://arstechnica.com/tech-p... Obama was all about change so that is maybe why he didn't make a big deal out of those NSA changes.

  4. How one can "steal" IP when under an NDA? by hackingbear · · Score: 3, Informative

    And how can one file criminal charge when the claim cannot pass a civil suit?

    "According to the jury’s verdict, T-Mobile was not awarded any damages relating to the trade secrets claim and there was no award of punitive damages. Although the jury awarded damages under the breach of contract allegation, the amount was a small fraction of what T-Mobile requested. Huawei is a global leader in innovation, and respect for intellectual property is a cornerstone value in our business,” Huawei said in a statement after the verdict in 2017.

  5. hypocrites by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Huawei has been the target of a broad U.S. crackdown, including allegations it sold telecommunications equipment that could be used by the China's Communist Party for spying."

    China stealing IP from the NSA? sounds about right...

    America has completely lost the 'ethical spying' moral high ground a long long time ago. This "scandal" is more likely about some billionaires pissing contest with another billionaire. States seem to only exist these days as a drama modifier in the battle between corporations. Which is really just the battle between rich individual actors and cabals, if you look at who is really in control of those nested corporations.

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  6. Huawei stole trade secrets from American rival? by najajomo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    U.S. prosecutors filed criminal charges against Huawei, China's largest smartphone maker, alleging it stole trade secrets from an American rival and committed bank fraud by violating sanctions against doing business with Iran.”

    The alleged trade secrets being a robot arm called tappy. They could have saved themselves the bother and bought one direct from Epson. The real story being this prosecution being used as a pretext to hinder Chinese firms doing business in the US. This prosecution being pushed by the corporate owners of America. Another sign that there is no one in the driving seat in Washington.

  7. Re: Canada loses by green1 · · Score: 2

    But the US asked us to. And for many decades that's all that's been required to get our government to fall all over itself to comply.

    The Canadian people repeatedly tell the government they don't want us to roll over every time the US comes calling, however regardless of which party is in power, they always place US interests above those of our own country. Every single time.