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A Hole Opens Up Under Antarctic Glacier -- Big Enough To Fit Two-Thirds of Manhattan (nbcnews.com)

Scientists have discovered an enormous void under an Antarctic glacier, sparking concern that the ice sheet is melting faster than anyone had realized -- and spotlighting the dire threat posed by rising seas to coastal cities around the world, including New York City and Miami. From a report: The cavity under Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica is about six miles long and 1,000 feet deep -- representing the loss of 14 billion tons of ice. It was discovered after an analysis of data collected by Italian and German satellites, as well as NASA's Operation IceBridge, a program in which aircraft equipped with ice-penetrating radar fly over polar regions to study the terrain. The discovery is described in a paper published Jan. 30 in the journal Science Advances. The researchers expected to see significant loss of ice, but the scale of the void came as a shock.

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  1. Morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Do these morons think that if humans had never graced the face of the Earth that these glaciers would never ever melt for all of time?

    The glaciers are going to melt, because their existence is cyclical, as the very same climate "scientists" will tell you. There are well-established periods of glaciation followed by well-established periods of pole-to-pole tropics.

    THE GLACIERS ARE GOING TO MELT WITH OR WITHOUT HUMAN ACTIVITY.

    This means that human contributions to climate are COMPLETELY FUCKING IMMATERIAL.

    We should be focusing our energy on adaptation rather than obstinate refusal to go along with mother nature. We could spend the sum total of human wealth on trying to stop it, only to buy ourselves maybe a couple hundred years, or we can just adapt.

    1. Re:Morons by omnichad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As an ice age species, we have a vested interest in not accelerating the rate of change. Absolutely the glaciers are going to melt. We need to adapt, but we need to buy time too. The changes at play are much bigger than you're imagining.

    2. Re:Morons by kilfarsnar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Do these morons think that if humans had never graced the face of the Earth that these glaciers would never ever melt for all of time?

      The glaciers are going to melt, because their existence is cyclical, as the very same climate "scientists" will tell you. There are well-established periods of glaciation followed by well-established periods of pole-to-pole tropics.

      THE GLACIERS ARE GOING TO MELT WITH OR WITHOUT HUMAN ACTIVITY.

      This means that human contributions to climate are COMPLETELY FUCKING IMMATERIAL.

      We should be focusing our energy on adaptation rather than obstinate refusal to go along with mother nature. We could spend the sum total of human wealth on trying to stop it, only to buy ourselves maybe a couple hundred years, or we can just adapt.

      Say what? Human contribution is, of course, completely material.

      If you put an ice cube on the kitchen counter, it will melt. If you take a flame to it, it will melt much faster. But according to you, the flame is immaterial. Besides, the glaciers formed naturally many years ago. So assuming they will melt regardless does not really make sense. I'd advise you to work on your own reasoning skills before calling people morons.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
  2. All Full, No More Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nope, Colorado is full. you idiots from SoCal came and parked in the fucking left lane of the interstate. That and you went to escape the cost of living down there, and brought your retarded politics to run up the cost of living here.

  3. Re:I have a question.... by asylumx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    To be clear, neither the summary nor the article made any claims about global warming or global climate change (whichever you like to call it). Simply observation that a large portion of ice internal to this glacier is gone (assumed to have melted) and this raises a risk that the glacier will collapse into the ocean which, based on calculations, could raise sea levels very quickly by up to 2 ft. If that is the case, *why* it is gone is probably not the most important question, rather how do we protect in the event that the glacier collapses is where we should focus our attention.

  4. Re:I have a question.... by sbrown123 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why didn't it melt across the expanse instead of just the center? This seems more like geothermal heat, as it is more directed. Climate change heating would have produced channels instead as it would follow currents which would expand across the entire glacier, not just the center.

  5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    In other words - destroy the Health Insurance company's and all the retirement investment funds that are built around them.
    When the Insurance company's are gone There will be no-one to turn to when Govt health systems fails and no money to get a private doctor.
    Too big to fail - remember that one ? So no matter how much it costs - and it will cost Big Time as price rises because it can because there is no alternative. Too big to fail and failing means people die so increase taxes again and pay whatever the suppliers want. Total domination of peoples lives and centralized planning all in one. Democrat win.

  6. Re:Speculative PROPAGANDA! by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you'll find answers in the paper. Did you try reading it ?