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Sprint Sues AT&T Over 5G Branding (reuters.com)
Sprint Corp sued AT&T late on Thursday, saying it is misleading consumers into believing that they are using fifth generation wireless network, known as 5G, a technology that has not yet been widely deployed. From a report: AT&T customers are seeing "5G E" logo on their mobile devices in over 400 markets. Although users are still using 4G network, AT&T is calling it 5G Evolution, a faster version of its existing network and a first step on the road to 5G. 5G can offer data speeds up to 50 or 100 times faster than 4G networks.
Sprint Corp sued AT&T late on Thursday, saying it is misleading consumers into believing that they are using fifth generation wireless network, known as 5G, a technology that has not yet been widely deployed.
It's kind of annoying that the FTC (or whatever three letter agency with jurisdiction) isn't sitting on them hard about this fraud. Marketing spin is one thing but this is pretty deeply shady.
I wish the U.S. government managed effectively. Government should limit corporate abuse.
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4G e then, just like HD (720p) is not HD at all, but hey, marketing wants to eat all of the cake.
And I'm calling it "5G dumbasses".
They should call it "4G E", for "4G enhanced" and it would probably be okay with everyone involved.
The government is controlled by those very corporations. Never going to happen. The grand experiment has failed.
...for selling " 2020 model year" cars in 2019.
720p is higher definition than standard broadcast definition (480i / 525-lines). It's 2.67x the resolution and twice the frame rate. (same field rate as 480i, but interlaced fields only update half the lines). HD ready logos are usually pretty clear about what you're getting.
If you want to go after someone, then those horrible 1366x768 LCD TVs that accept downscaled 1080p are perhaps the biggest offenses.
The founders of the US conceived a lot of problems and planned for them, but they never included foundations to separate wealth and government, just religion.
Aside from a large political or physical revolution, things will simply continue to go downhill.
5G in this context is a trademark of 3GPP. Only they can object to an unauthorized usage.
If the International Olympic Committee IOC can say who can and can't say "Olympics" then the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) should be able to say what is and isn't "4G" "4G LTE" "4G LTE E" "5G E" or "5G"
Calvin:Do you believe in the devil? Hobbes:I'm not sure man needs the help.
The fact that the ITU endorsed the use of "4G LTE" bolsters AT&T's case a bit, since it was pretty much the same shenanigans.
So that just means that Sprint/FTC goes after them instead of AT&T. Or are you saying that anyone can just fund a trade group and shield themselves from scrutiny?
More importantly, where is the 5G working group? There's a reason these things have labels, to prevent anyone from calling anything "5G"
The ITU is the group that comes up with the specs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... the same way that the IOC covers Olympics and the International Bureau of Weights and Measures says what a "meter" and a "kilogram" are.
Calvin:Do you believe in the devil? Hobbes:I'm not sure man needs the help.
Just run a few adds quickly explaining that other vendors have branded their old networks 5G E, but Sprint is putting up true 5G technology which includes better x and y. Show a few simple graphs of someone browsing websites on the 5G E network vs their true 5G network. Follow up with 5G E is just the old 4LTE network given a new name. Maybe something like an old time miner polishing up a piece of junk and trying to pass it off as the latest thing.
Actually I find it funny the AT&T commercials that paint others as just OK, leaving the viewer to fill in that they are the best. Of course having dealing with them I know better; DirectTv bill messed up for 6 months, services shut off because changing systems, canceling DSL only to be charged for the next 4 months because the bills are prepared by a different department then billing. When ever one of those commercials come up I keep thinking, yeah, but at least OK is better than the worst.
So long as AT&T's network operates within the scope of their FCC licenses, the FCC has no issue here.
The FTC, however, has the authority to bring enforcement action against companies that operate fraudulently:
https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement
Umm Sprint? Remember when I was your customer? Those years where you prated on about having 4G and all I could get was 3G unless I was at your store? Step out into the street you said? Head downtown Dallas you said? Endless reasons why it didn't work for me. Poser..
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
It's not management, its corporate corruption at the top..
Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
Back then companies were chartered and people had personal liability if companies failed. Nowadays it's all disconnected, limited liability, etc.
5G standards show it takes extra repeaters and software changes to implement. Sprint is suing is because AT&T is doing their own thing and not waiting for the "industry standard" to be realized. During the 4G roll-out Verizon and then Sprint did the same. This crated LTE only to differentiate the unique hardware.
Besides, 5G is short range only. 4G and LTE have very limited range. Outside the metropolitan areas you will be lucky to get 4G.
5G will mean you'll hit your cap sooner. Nothing about 5G regards caps.
Sprint did the same thing with a fake version of 4G that was actually using the 3G network. The old Samsung Epic I had would boot up with big 4G swirling text, but it was the same thing AT&T is doing now. Perhaps they are actually upset about them being copied.
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Hopefully the TDS medications start rolling out soon to the people that need it.
... whose stuff really is 5g.
Why not be smart and use 4.5G?
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Hey Ajit? Comments?
480P is 858x480. If Wikipedia states otherwise, then it's wrong.
Any resolution can be interlaced or progressive. Any resolution can be run at any frame rate. In a comparison of resolutions, it's irrelevant.
720P isn't HD in any way. At least 1080P is higher resolution than what I had a quarter of a century ago. And FYI, ancient film is much higher resolution than either.
480P is 858x480. If Wikipedia states otherwise, then it's wrong.
No. You're wrong. I've been working on and off as a hardware engineer for video decoding. The problem here is you're not talking about the same thing. Really what you're mentioning isn't even relevant for broadcast.
It is relevant if you're a broadcaster and have old tapes, but that's pretty obscure and off topic here.
720P isn't HD in any way.
Except it is literally defined as HD by the standard. you lose.
At least 1080P is higher resolution than what I had a quarter of a century ago.
Yours is an arbitrary definition at best.
And FYI, ancient film is much higher resolution than either.
You can't broadcast film as is, unless you want to send it by carrier pigeon. For the purposes of television it might as well be zero definition.
FYI, you're using the word resolution incorrectly.