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Finland Basic Income Trial Left People 'Happier But Jobless' (bbc.com)
Giving jobless people in Finland a basic income for two years did not lead them to find work, researchers said. From a report: From January 2017 until December 2018, 2,000 unemployed Finns got a monthly flat payment of $685. The aim was to see if a guaranteed safety net would help people find jobs, and support them if they had to take insecure gig economy work. While employment levels did not improve, participants said they felt happier and less stressed. When it launched the pilot scheme back in 2017, Finland became the first European country to test out the idea of an unconditional basic income. It was run by the Social Insurance Institution (Kela), a Finnish government agency, and involved 2,000 randomly-selected people on unemployment benefits. It immediately attracted international interest - but these results have now raised questions about the effectiveness of such schemes.
If you read the article, you'd see that the people enrolled in the pilot had similar rates of employment to a control group. It isn't that they don't bother -- they bother just as often regardless of whether they have a basic income.
If it were reported accurately, this would alleviate the fear that you just parroted, that people would stop working.
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Read the article: "while some individuals found work, they were no more likely to do so than a control group of people who weren't given the money."
IOW, the UBI did not reduce their willingness to find work. It had no apparent effect at all.
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Not really in Donald Trump's case it isn't. He's a professional tax cheat and inheritor, nothing more. He did an absolutely objectively SHITTY job as a businessman, and anyone else in his position without a rich father would be a complete failure in those multiple-bankruptcy fiascoes! HE LITERALLY IS A PROFESSIONAL CRIMINAL WHO DOES NOT PAY HIS WORKERS WHEREVER HE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.
If you think tax cheats who cheat their workers are doing "real work" despite getting bailed out dozens of times and inheriting all their wealth and losing most of that in stupid boondoggles, you're a fucking moron and this debate is over.
You're doing more work here foisting that bullshit than Donald did in his entire whiny service-avoiding Vietnam dodging fraudulent life. Donald spends less time at his actual "work" than any executive in US history. Fact.
Did you see the Gov. of VA in a KKK hood (or was he the guy next to the KKK member? lol)? I did.
Did you notice the DNC, or you calling for him to resign? I didn't.
Whoops, looks like you are the ACTUALL KKK supporter. Congratulations you bigot.
I am loving this new DNC. They support the KKK, support rapists, and tell you that eating steak or flying airplanes will be illegal in 10 years and you are evil if you even think of doing either. Yep, the DNC thinks bigots/racists are perfectly fine, but you eat a steak and you are evil.
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The main theory behind a UBI is reducing the diminishing returns from going from unemployed to employed. The loss of benefits (unemployment, food stamps, disability, etc) often is as much or close to the income from an entry level job. So instead of getting paid ~$12 / hour for work (after taxes, etc.), you're only seeing a ~$1-2 /hour increase. For many people it's not cost effect to get work when they already on some programs.
The UBI is basically supposed to say "Go get a job, look at all the extra money!"
[Not that I agree/disagree. It has has some interesting ideas, and I think experiments like this is a good idea. But, people are selfish bastards, so I'm not optimistic.]
Anyone who knows anything about US history is well aware that the Democrats were the pro slavery party and the Republicans were the abolitionist party. They stayed in those roles until around the middle of the last century when the democrats embraced the civil rights movement (with the âoeDixiecratsâ being the notable holdouts). The Republicans of the time recognized an opportunity and swept in with the âoesouthern strategyâ to pull all those disenfranchised racists into their ranks. So, yeah, old Ku Klux Klan members would tend to be Democrats, absolutely. Modern ones? Not a chance.
Finn here BTW.
The Finnish Social Insurance Institution (KELA), i.e the people who manage social security and other benefits payments, has been a massive hassle to deal with that constantly screws things up for as long as I can remember. Anyone who's dealt with them to any significant extent will have personal horror stories to share so and they're more or less universally reviled. Thus it's pretty clear that these people are happier most probably because they don't have to deal with KELA, not because of the unconditional benefits payment.
"Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
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Well, actually there is enough money. Or, rather, resources. If the goal is just to fulfill the foundation of the pyramid of needs, we're more than capable to do this. We can actually give people food&shelter.
What we can't give everyone is a job.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.