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AI Study of Human Genome Finds Unknown Human Ancestor (smithsonianmag.com)

Zorro shares a report from the Smithsonian: A recent study used machine learning technology to analyze eight leading models of human origins and evolution, and the program identified evidence in the human genome of a "ghost population" of human ancestors. The analysis suggests that a previously unknown and long-extinct group of hominins interbred with Homo sapiens in Asia and Oceania somewhere along the long, winding road of human evolutionary history, leaving behind only fragmented traces in modern human DNA. The study, published in Nature Communications, is one of the first examples of how machine learning can help reveal clues to our own origins. By poring through vast amounts of genomic data left behind in fossilized bones and comparing it with DNA in modern humans, scientists can begin to fill in some of the many gaps of our species' evolutionary history. "The new data suggest that the mysterious hominin was likely descended from an admixture of Neanderthals and Denisovans (who were only identified as a unique species on the human family tree in 2010)," the report adds. "Such a species in our evolutionary past would look a lot like the fossil of a 90,000-year-old teenage girl from Siberia's Denisova cave. Her remains were described last summer as the only known example of a first-generation hybrid between the two species, with a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father."

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  1. Species? by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sub-species. The biological definition of species is the ability to form fertile offspring. For example all dogs and wolves are the same species as they can all form fertile offspring. Horses and donkeys are a different species as the result is the mule, which is sterile. Talking about different human "species" interbreeding is wrong.

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    1. Re:Species? by dryeo · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's at least 26 definitions of species. When you get down to it, defining a species is a problem. The observation of the AC about lions and tigers being able to hybridize with only one sex being fertile is an example that may apply to the different hominoids. There's also horses and donkeys where the offspring are almost always infertile but there has been rare cases of mules getting pregnant and producing offspring.
      Ring species where the neigbours can breed but further apart specimens can't.
      Plants get more complex. Dandelions IIRC skip generations so parent and offspring can't breed but grandparent and grandchild can.
      Then there's the organisms that are asexual.

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  2. Re:Homo Sapiens by Scarletdown · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yet the only ones to explore the outer reaches of the solar system, walk on the moon, and when you get right down to it; did a lot to make this planet a genuinely comfortable place to call home, and not the feral hellhole that wants to kill you at every turn that it used to be.

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  3. Species and hotness by Joe+Branya · · Score: 2

    The commentator above is correct; scientists define a group as a separate species only if it can't interbreed with other closely related groups.

    Leave it to the lawyers to muddy the waters. The misnamed Endangered Species Act apparently defined a species as any separate breeding population (the Florida panthers, for example) in order to "extend the reach" of the law well beyond merely protecting endangered species. This is the usual example of lawyers and legislators using the law to try to redefine words for public relations purposes. The result is that the public- and the lawyers- now don't know what a species is. This is the left wing version of the unborn child gambit on the right.

    Personally, I think Neanderthal girls are hot. I keep hoping to meet one at the beach. They're really good at beach volleyball. Do Neanderthals girls qualify for NCAA athletic scholarships?

    1. Re:Species and hotness by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Funny

      They're really good at beach volleyball.

      Ever driven a Saab 900? Notice how, when you pulled up to a stoplight, you couldn't see the fucking thing if it was close because the roof-line extends too far forward? Your Neanderthal girl wouldn't see the ball coming; her giant unibrow would get in the way.

    2. Re:Species and hotness by Empiric · · Score: 2

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_concept

      No, they don't.

      That aside, per basic epistemology (e.g. Aristotle), there is a justification for a separate category for an entity when there's a unique characteristic differentiating that entity from all other entities.

      I'm going with "I have a soul" as my non-optional differentiating characteristic, as the most cursory analysis demonstrates there is no biological differentiator for the arbitrary distinctions between "hominids". Regardless of how many scientists subscribe to an arbitrary DNA division naming, and regardless if they try to non-sequitur philosophical gravitas by mimicking Latin naming conventions.

      The rest of you hominids and general animals who reject "soul", can propose your own.

      Spoiler alert: There isn't one, and if you claim you have, say, "rights" and Koko the gorilla doesn't, your stance is philosophically incoherent and you are deeply irrational on a profoundly fundamental level. At least you have a lot of company--with the rest of the secular Left.

      Evolution will fix you when you inevitably get naturally deselected though. Keep the "faith"!

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