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Tobacco Use is Soaring Among US Kids, Driven By E-cigarettes (axios.com)
Public health officials Monday said there's a growing epidemic of tobacco products currently used by children -- 4.9 million high school and middle school kids used tobacco products in 2018 up from 3.6 million in 2017 -- mainly due to a growth in e-cigarette usage. From a report: For the fifth year in a row, e-cigs were the most popular product amongst high school students, but in 2018 it reached unprecedented epidemic levels, with the addition of another 1.5 million kids, said Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Current users" are defined as people who've used a tobacco product in past 30 days. "Frequent users" are defined as people who've used the product for more than 20 out of the past 30 days.
Yeah kids shouldn't be using vapes but should it be considered a tobacco product when it doesn't have tobacco in it? The biggest issues I see with them are that they often contain nicotine which is addictive, and the Fed's refusal to regulate them properly means they could have god knows what in the vape juice. Instead of having the pearl clutching knee jerk of they are evil maybe the FDA should actually regulate the things properly so we can ensure that they don't have unsafe chemicals in them.
Absolutely better for you. Nicotine is no worse for you than caffeine. It's the other nasties in tobacco that are bad for you.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...
As does caffeine!
-- these are only opinions and they might not be mine.
As far as I can tell, the people with a vested interest in opposing cigarettes are also vehemently opposed to e-cigarettes, despite their much lower risk profile.
Time and again I find myself reading "news" stories where e-cigarettes are lumped with tobacco use, and many anti-tobacco activists swear up and down that if you vape candy-flavored vape juice FOR SURE you will switch to Marlboro Reds at the first opportunity.
I just don't see how this could be the case -- I smoked for a decade and *liked it*. In the years since I quit I have tried a few cigarettes out of nostalgia and been absolutely repulsed by them. When I smoked I rolled my own, and occasionally a "light" cigarette smoker would want to try one out of curiosity or because they were out, and almost universally they hated them. If an actual cigarette smoker is turned off by a slightly harsher actual cigarette, then the idea anyone who has only or mostly vaped switching to tobacco seems absurd.
From your link:
Conclusions: The use of NRT is not associated with any increase in the risk of myocardial infarction, stroke, or death.
So no, nicotine minus the tar, particulates, and carbon monoxide is NOT associated with an increased of cardiovascular risk.
Looks like you read what you (for some reason) wanted to read rather than what was written.
It is the modern purist's version of reefer madness. The puritans don't need actual facts.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Well, it is believed that the ritual of smoking is a significant contributor to the addiction.
In moderation though
Nearly all caffeine users have little difficulty keeping their use in the "good" range. But for nicotine, there is no "good" range, and it is far more addictive.
As well, the puritans who are shitting their pants because the tobacco users have found a loophole in vaping
Nonsense. We are only shitting our pants over kids getting ahold of vaping devices. Adults can do what they want.
Do you really think that putting a highly addictive and harmful product into the hands of kids is acceptable? They are too stupid and naive to understand the consequences.
Unilateral permanent confiscation of the vaping device when they are caught, a criminal record that stays on file for the next 7 years even though they are a minor, and the threat of losing access to public education if they are caught again might do the trick, at the very least, it will put the parent(s) or guardians in the loop who might be better equipped to deal with whatever further disciplinary actions are required.
Holy fuck, you left out summary and immediate execution.
I suspect you are Poeing, but if not, I think it was W.F. Buckley, ont of my two favorite conservatives, who suffered fro glaucoma and went offshore to treat it with devil's lettuce that said:
" Marijuana laws have unquestionably destroyed more lives than marijuana ever did." reminds me of your suggestion.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
> for nicotine, there is no "good" range, and it is far more addictive.
Are you sure about that? From what I've read, there's a potentiating effect of the nicotine caused by MAOIs in tobacco. Further, I have a very hard time finding studies about the health effects of nicotine that isn't from tobacco (smoked, chewed, or otherwise ingested). The health effects of nicotine sans tobacco seem akin to those of caffeine.