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US Investigators Probing Years of WikiLeaks Activities, Report Says (reuters.com)

WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange are the subject of a long-running criminal investigation in the U.S., Reuters reported on Friday, citing sources familiar with the matter. Investigators have dug into the website's activities going back years, people who have been in contact with witnesses in the case say. From the report: American investigators are gathering information and pursuing witnesses involved in both recent WikiLeaks disclosures and the website's large-scale postings of U.S. military and diplomatic messages over several years from 2010. Officially, U.S. authorities have issued no public comments about the status of Wikileaks-related investigations. But a document which U.S. authorities said was mistakenly filed in open court in an unrelated case last November alluded to a sealed U.S. criminal complaint against Assange, though the document does not provide specifics regarding which laws U.S. prosecutors believe Assange violated.

64 comments

  1. Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Isn't it the job of the US Government to protect information it deems classified?

    What crime did Julian Assange commit by publishing this information that cleared persons passed onto his organization?

    Does Julian Assange, an Australian Citizen, have some obligation to protect US classified information?

    I don't think he does, but I'd welcome an explanation or rebuttal.

    1. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      NYT and Washington Post are the only official leaking channels recognized and used by the FBI.

    2. Re:Classified Information by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You will be punished for embarrassing powerful people. The crime will be discovered to fit the punishment.

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    3. Re:Classified Information by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Informative

      Only government officials, and those they contract with, are bound to keep it secret, and that's akin to a company requiring you to keep trade secrets.

      A news organization is free to publish classified material if they are given it, so long as they are not complicit in getting it, say, by paying for it to be taken, or helping to take it.

      Ergo either they suspect he paid for it, or are harrassing him, knowing he cannot be found guilty of anything. This part makes no difference where he is or his citizenship. If he paid for it, he's acting as a spy or foreign agent, and can be gone after. If not, he's as protected as any American journalist.

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    4. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does Julian Assange, an Australian Citizen, have some obligation to protect US classified information?

      Does Julian Assange wish to do business in America or interact with Americans?

      It seems so.

      As an agent for the oligarchs of Russia who wish to undermine the United States of America through surreptitious manipulation and propaganda. Not to mention assassination.

      Well, three can play that game. Until two of them are dead.

    5. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assange could be charged with Grand Embezzlement, punished by Electric Totemization at 96KV.

    6. Re:Classified Information by hackingbear · · Score: 1, Interesting

      or you will be punished for leaking the biggest secret of the U.S.: that the U.S. is the biggest hypocrite.

    7. Re: Classified Information by ASCIIxTended · · Score: 1

      You forgot CNN

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    8. Re:Classified Information by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Ergo either they suspect he paid for it, or are harrassing him, knowing he cannot be found guilty of anything.

      I think they are aiming to make him guilty.

      Like, "Un-American Activities", back in the McCarthy days.

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    9. Re:Classified Information by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He violated the "The Country With the Biggest Military Gets To Make the Laws For Everyone Else" Act of Forever.

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    10. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mr. Assange has no obligation to protect U.S. classified information, and there is no prohibition against him publishing it. However, any effort on his part to get particular information is likely to be a violation of espionage laws. Obama stretched the constitution hard by going after journalists, but each indictment was for a specific act that was digging for information, not for the publishing of it. If Assange only published the information, then he's clear. However, if he bought the information, traded for it, or conspired to get it, then he's violated the law. Further, if he did any act to conceal the identity or means of the person with a security clearance, then he's committed the crime of destruction of evidence.

    11. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Assange doesn't have any obligations to the US, but many governments still expect everyone (the world over) to obey their laws, obligation or not! That might be an unrealistic expectation, but you shouldn't misunderestimate a government's power/reach.

      Russian "hackers" stole trade secrets, over the internet, from the DNC. (Some of them have been indicted, but AFAIK there's been no commando raid to actually capture them to bring them to trial, yet.) Then they gave the trade secrets to Assange, and he published them. By trafficking in and publishing ill-gotten trade secrets, Assange violated US law. And they might be able to get him.

      The consequences, of course, are that now anyone can be a Democrat, since their proprietary trade secrets have been disclosed. And some say that Trump used those trade secrets, to be more Democrat-like in the 2016 election, thereby winning.

      Do you want to live in a world where these trade secrets are not protected, or where the DNC has to patent or copyright them instead? Because it's either that, or every party is going to be Democrat-like, from now on. If you want to protect political party trade secrets, then this theft should be prosecuted to deter future thieves.

    12. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jesus, imagine the stench. surely that would be bad for the environment.

    13. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But many here talk so loud about how 'western democracy' is so much superior to dark china. Someone please help, im confused now.

    14. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's very simple. It is better to have values and fail to live up to them than to embrace evil whole heartedly.

      China has chosen the latter.

    15. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Devil's advocate time

      Assange accepted classified materials that were blatantly not meant for dissemination. In the same way it's a crime to accept knowingly stolen goods, accepting and publishing known classified materials is, i'm sure, criminal, especially when they belong to an ally nation.
      If somebody steals a car from one country and gives it to me in another it's still a criminal offence regardless of where the original crime took place.

      That being said assanges biggest mistake was not disappearing at the first opportunity. The US will hunt him down and when they fucking kidnap him they'll make an example of him with execution being the MOST pleasant possible outcome; I can easily see them throwing him into closet sized pitch black room in some black site for the rest of his life.

    16. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      any effort on his part to get particular information is likely to be a violation of espionage laws. (...) if he bought the information, traded for it, or conspired to get it, then he's violated the law. Further, if he did any act to conceal the identity or means of the person with a security clearance, then he's committed the crime of destruction of evidence.

      That seems very disingenuous if it is the law. Of course a journalist is going to "dig" for particular information. That's their fucking job! Paying for information also seems like hardly a crime when you consider that Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) requests demand a processing fee to be paid. What good is FOIA if by making use of it, you immediately turn yourself into a defacto criminal in the eyes of the law?

    17. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to the US Constitution Congress may pass no law restricting freedom of the press. So there is no circumstances under which publishing classified information is illegal, regardless of what anyone in office thinks on the matter, as Congress is expressly forbidden from passing such a law by an amendment which supersedes the clauses which grant them to power to pass laws at all.

      However, there is not a similar protection for paying or soliciting informants, Nor for violating the contract you signed saying you wouldn't divulge certain information, and Congress has passed espionage laws forbidding just that. So in practice it is difficult to legally come into the possession of anything of interest as you can't ask for it, or compensate whoever put their carrear/liberty/life on the line getting you the information.

    18. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, if only this were true.

    19. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They are not classified for non US citizens

    20. Re:Classified Information by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      The stench before or after the totemization ?

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    21. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Embarrassing powerful people and being an asset of illiberal criminal-syndicate states like Russia are not mutually exclusive things you know.

      In fact, embarrassing powerful people would be a key talent for such an organization.

    22. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't make any sense. Julian wasn't operating under the jurisdiction of the US and therefore is not obedient to any US laws. Period. The problem is the US violates the sovereignty and many countries violate the sovereignty of there own citizens. We should really eliminate the political class.

    23. Re:Classified Information by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The rebuttal is that you obviously don't know if that is what they're investigating, or if they're investigating something else, like involvement in the act of leaking itself, rather than just the act of publishing.

      The publishing is obviously legal. When he first hid in the embassy, all that was publicly known about was publishing, which is obviously legal under US law. And yet, he was worried about something more. And now he's being investigated for something more. We don't know what yet, because the process hasn't moved that far. It is unlikely we'll know at all until sometime after he is in custody; generally the public will get the details during the trail, and not before then. Sometimes only after the trial.

    24. Re:Classified Information by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      wait, wait, wait, you've got to tell us what backwater you're from where you didn't know that the US has been accused of hypocrisy.

      Oh, nevermind, it's in your username.

    25. Re:Classified Information by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You leave out possibilities like, maybe he did more than pay for it, maybe he actively coached people through the exfiltration process.

      That seems to be the direction indicated by what has leaked so far.

    26. Re:Classified Information by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Yes. I want to live in a world where political parties can not hide behind Trade Secret protections. When Debbie had to resign, it was a victory for truth.

    27. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The only criminal charge the US could possibly levy against Wikileaks or foreign individuals is receiving stolen goods. And that charge is iffy at best. This most recent announcement of US government investigations comes up every time Assange thinks about leaving the embassy in London. That moron is still trying to put himself up a martyr to cover up his over the top narcissistic behavior.

      And has Wikileaks ever provided the one thing it was founded on? Wikileaks was supposed to be a mechanism where individuals could release information anonymously. Instead Wikileaks took ownership of the information and placed their own controls over what gets released. This has lead to information being cherry picked to support a political viewpoint. The people with Snowden's stolen documents have masterfully managed the selective release of only pieces of the information. From the millions of documents stolen by Snowden the only ones that have been released are the ones supporting the political stance of those holding the data. The public is suppose to believe that the ones releasing the information are honest and fair minded but in reality they are no different than the people the information was stolen from in the first place. The public is suppose to believe that every piece of information released is true and unaltered when in reality there is no way to verify the veracity of the information.

    28. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Got it, pretending to have values is better than not pretending.

    29. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have it wrong. There are no values. There is only 'values on gunpoint' - i have a gun therefore i have values.

      Also known as 'might makes right' or 'primitive jungle mentality'.

    30. Re:Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is true as long you believe it - once you stop believing it stop being true. Kind of like 'i believe in god' thing.

    31. Re: Classified Information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There should be no secret courts. Not in the USA. Period.

  2. This is why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should keep your head down and not publicly embarrass public officials.
    It may take longer than you'd like for them to forget....

    I think there is something much deeper than the stick they have been beating him with.
    Whatever that is, the govt really does not want it to come to light.
    So they keep coming at him from other angles.
    Until they wear him out or finally make something stick.

  3. Mike Russia Today? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trying to figure out if you are a Russian advocating for your country (fair enough...) or an American advocating for the most infamous traitor in recent US military history.

    Military academies will spend the next 50 years training cadets how not to betray their country like Mike Flynn.

    1. Re:Mike Russia Today? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      When they have RT in their username, I just figure they're Russian.

  4. No worries by elrous0 · · Score: 2

    It's all about a vague sexual assault charge or jumping bail, or some shit. The UK and Sweden would NEVER engage in legal system theater just as cover for extraditing him to the U.S. Nope, this is all about some charge in Sweden that got dropped and Britian's endless noble quest for justice. No extradition worries for that bloke.

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  5. Pentagon Papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In general, the media has protections for this as can be seen from the Pentagon Papers case.

    That said, if they want to be dicks they can be. Sadly, not much stops them from making a federal case out of almost nothing.

    Meanwhile, where are all the people who said that Assange was paranoid?

    You guys have words to eat, get munching. Now.

  6. Laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Haven't you heard? US law is applicable to everyone else in the entire world, regardless of where they were born. However, the US reserves the right to ignore any laws it finds inconvenient.

    Move along, citizen!

    1. Re:Laws by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Golly, but it almost seems like if something was leaked from a place, part of the activity happened in that place. So laws of that place might actually apply.

    2. Re:Laws by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Right. So if some dude leaked information from the People's Liberation Army, you want him railroaded back to China.

      You're quite the little fucking martinet, dude.

    3. Re:Laws by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Derp derp derp.

      Shorter you: "I can't read! Everybody must be a moronic stereotype!"

      Learn how to read, then you'll be capable of being in discussions about policy.

  7. Whistleblower hall of fame by nanospook · · Score: 2
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  8. Discovered who the real tool is here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Before Flynn made his infamous December 2015 trip to Moscow — as a retired general and then-adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign — he alerted his former employer, the DIA.
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    He then attended a “defensive” or “protective” briefing before he ever sat alongside Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Russia Today (RT) dinner, or before he talked with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
    //

    The briefing educated and sensitized Flynn to possible efforts by his Russian host to compromise the former high-ranking defense official and prepared him for conversations in which he could potentially extract intelligence for U.S. agencies such as the DIA. When Flynn returned from Moscow, he spent time briefing intelligence officials on what he learned during the Moscow contacts.
    //

    Between two and nine intelligence officials attended the various meetings with Flynn about the RT event, and the information was moderately useful, about what one would expect from a public event, according to my sources.

  9. Re: Nobody would care if not for Trump's TREASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with that is the democrat party was actively using the release of hacked republican to as a political football as well.

    The only difference between democrats and republicans is the type of lies they tell. The volume and lengths they go to defend them are the same for both sides. How many women's rights backers were rapists or defenders of misogynists who were "on their side"? How many conservative family values proponents were closetted?

    It is absolutely disgusting that anyone in either party actually thinks people won't find out they are power hungry scumbags who's sole purposes in life are gaining more power and attacking the same problems they have in their opponent's political party.

  10. John Kerry is the traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought John Kerry was the actual traitor.
    Kerry went to Iran to tell them not to worry about Trump because he would make sure whatever Trump did would be undone.

    That is giving aid and comfort to an enemy, pretty much the definition of traitor.

  11. Re: Nobody would care if not for Trump's TREASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indeed. They are liers. Sometimes I'll give some people on either side a bit of credit but neither has been good stewards. I don't care if you lean one way or the other (and I am far from a fickle centerist myself) but too many people take political players and pundits at face value, both the ones they like and the ones they hate.

  12. Re: Nobody would care if not for Trump's TREASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The US is being run by people that demonstrate a staggering level of incompetence from both the Democrats and Republicans. The only thing worse than the far Left is the far Right and the Progressives are worse than both the left and right combined. Of course a portion of the blame for this clusterfuck are the gullible proles who are easily manipulated thanks to the Internet. People today seem to be defining themselves by what they hate. The only thing people are "for" is anything that harms those they hate. And politicians are leveraging this hate to win elections. Our politicians are spending more time running investigations of their components than they are doing the job they were elected to. Sticking it to Trump has become more important than spending time passing timely budget legislation. After the last 35 day government shutdown the headlines were all a flutter claiming victory for the Democrats. What exactly did they win? Running a country is not a sporting event pitting one side against another until someone is beating. The Democrats and Republicans both decided to stand their ground no matter how much harm they were doing to the country and it's citizens. If there needs to be another government shutdown then send all the Senators and Representatives home until their term is up or they decide to fulfill the duties of their jobs.

  13. Re:Yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You need to get your news from somewhere other than /pol/ or infowars or Qtard videos.

    Mostly for your own sake.

  14. But didn't offer the Russia Leaks, hummmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And still haven't. Someone else has, but why didn't WikiLeaks? Doing so would have made it appear WL didn't have a specific agenda.

  15. Re: Nobody would care if not for Trump's TREASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >"The only thing people are "for" is anything that harms those they hate. And politicians are leveraging this hate to win elections. "
    So true. Only thing I'd add to it is hate, motivated by fear. The fear of what they will do to you. Even the most legitimate grievances are blow out of portion and surrounded with embellishments.

    The sad thing about the progressive is they are puttiing progress on interests ahead of the old spirit of civil liberties that they used to argue for (not excusing there blind eye they turned to there certain flaws in labor and certain far left activism in the mid 20 century) but it was that spirit things like even this very website I suppose. The open internet was protected by the progressive against hostil forces both within the government and the market. They now have turned into a ton of various fragmentory factions all running on various pocket grievances (some legitimate some overblown and some not even real) and have suffered a full dive into a blind mob maintality.

    As for the far left, I'm not entirely sure who you are referring to. If it is the standard Democrats party establishment types (you consider Chuck and Nacy far left), than I would see them as more of a center left standard slogan over action type of people (like much of the establishment GOP) if you are referring to the far left forces that haven't fully been subverted and sometimes clash with the progressive Democratic partisans (old-school Social Democratic and far left organizations that are starting to mingle with the current Democratic party) than I fully understand the distinction and classification.

    As for the far right. It would be much harder for me to say. Pure Trump loyalist have a lot of the same flaws as the progressives but it's less articulated and more of just bending over backwards to whatever Trump says at the moment. The tea party whom they share some overlap is a mix bag of libertarian, small government conservative, and crackhead conservative types that are varing levels of genuine intentions, new hate politics, and old scummy politics. I honestly still call neo Nazis worse... Yet you have a point if one takes a look at the direction some on the left are taking and the passive influence they are gaining compared to the tiny inroads Nazis have made under various brand names at the expense of much of their ability to organize and the fact they are still quite tiny and are even a worse state of organization than before. Paleoconservative and monarchism also bring interesting things to the mix of what we could call far right as well.

  16. Re:Yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You are stupid because your politics aren't Libtarded like mine!"
    --Standard Libtard 101

  17. Looking at ISP recs of visits to WL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cannot help but to wonder if they are also going to look at ISP records of what devices IP and MAC addresses accessed Wikileaks... some here have asserted Americans not in government, (or without appropriate clearance, ID, and need to know,) are not in any way obliged to guard or protect or prohibited from deliberately accessing sensitive or classified information. HOWEVER, the Espionage Act might have something different to say about that... despite the name, it covers a helluva lot more than just espionage. If you have ever looked at the Wikileaks website, you could be liable under that act, for example. Also, ISPs keep records of EEEEVVVEEEERRRRYYYTHING. FOREVER.

  18. There are NO VIABLE Charges against Assange. by 3seas · · Score: 1

    Its all been nothing more than a series of bluffs to cause constraint and spying on him. The indications of bluffing is all over the place, never a yeah or nay on anything. The UK police had him in custody and did not extradite him. Julian offered to turn himself over for Mannings release but Obam nullified that offer right before granting Manning release. Sweden never had charges against Assange but refused to talk to him remotely or directly in the UK. Australia stays neutral. Even the incident of the UK Police going into the Embassy was not to take Julian out but only to verify he was still in there. How I know is on the only chat channel with video of the event that night I posted "Julian left the building two weeks ago" and this was followed by someone asking for verification. I stayed silent, they went in. all this in less than ten minutes. And who really think the UK Police are ignorant of Embassy law? Not I! I've also personally dealt with a different long-running elaborate bluff so I do understand Julian's concern given he has seen how nasty and manipulative some in the position of influence and power can and have been. But it all is a bluff against him as that is the only way those in power can constrain him while also sending a message to the people gov is supposed to be working FOR, that they don't but the people should fear them.

    CALL THE BLUFF!

    1. Re:There are NO VIABLE Charges against Assange. by 3seas · · Score: 1

      Given all the years this matter has been going on are we to believe they are still probing the leaks? Or maybe they are trying to figure out how to correctly redact information for public release? The real Life MAD Mag Spy vs Spy blunders .....They don't need wikileaks to blunder themselves i.e. https://list25.com/25-cia-blun...

  19. Re: Yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad for you:

    "This is MAGA country!" - two upstanding Nigerian extras from Empire.

  20. Re:Yeah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but you are stupid...

  21. Exactly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assange needs to leave the embassy and face this farce directly.

    If you are reading this Julian, know that we have your back! If they try to imprison you, we will fight them and WIN!

    1. Re:Exactly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok I'm totes coming out guys.

  22. Trump should just declare it a national emergency. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO COLLUSION! Pardons for everyone. Done and done.

  23. Roger Brian Abbott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://law.justia.com/cases/c... Isn't there a Roger Brian Abbott, CEO of BIZX?

  24. Re: Nobody would care if not for Trump's TREASON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When something is probed..like an ass for example, it Will likely leak... Usually it Will leak semen