Slashdot Mirror


Are We Ready For 5G Phones?

Next-generation 5G networks are very much in their infancy right now, but that's not stopping smartphone manufacturers from teasing new 5G phones. At Samsung's Galaxy S10 launch event today, Samsung teased the Galaxy S10 5G, a top-tier model of the Galaxy S10 that offers 5G mobile data connectivity. "The device, which has a larger screen and battery than the S10 Plus, will temporarily be a Verizon Wireless exclusive before expanding to other carriers in the weeks after launch," reports The Verge. "It will go on sale sometime 'in the first half of 2019."

Late last year, LG confirmed that its first U.S. 5G phone would debut on Sprint "in the first half of 2019," just as Sprint launches its 5G network. At around the same time, Lenovo unveiled the Moto Z3, a phone that only connects to 5G with a MotoMod modular accessory. It too is expected to arrive early this year -- but there's no mention of how much it'll cost. OnePlus, Nokia, and Huawei are also working on 5G phones expected to arrive sometime this year. The question is: are we ready for 5G phones? Three of the four largest carriers in the U.S. have only just started offering 5G service in select cities. Sprint, the fourth largest U.S. telecommunications company, hasn't even reached this step. Just like the first 4G phones to hit the market, these first-of-their-kind 5G devices look to merely symbolize what the next decade of mobile computing has in store.

12 of 85 comments (clear)

  1. AT&T is ready! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

    I hear their 5Ge phones work great -- just as well as their 4G / LTE phones!

    [ Personally, I don't think AT&T can get dumped on enough for this crap... ]

    --
    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  2. Ready or not, here they come.. by bobbied · · Score: 2

    The chip sets are shipping, phones are being engineered and built, carriers are buying spectrum space, vendors are starting to ship the equipment and the marketing blitz is already on.

    It doesn't matter if you are ready or not, it's going to happen unless there is some huge unforeseen world/national event that makes it financially impossible. It's happening, like it or not.

    --
    "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    1. Re:Ready or not, here they come.. by Drethon · · Score: 2

      The chip sets are shipping, phones are being engineered and built, carriers are buying spectrum space, vendors are starting to ship the equipment and the marketing blitz is already on.

      It doesn't matter if you are ready or not, it's going to happen unless there is some huge unforeseen world/national event that makes it financially impossible. It's happening, like it or not.

      Where is it happening? 4g networks only partially qualify for the 4g defintion right now. 4g networks are supposed to be 10Mb minimum (OK we hit that), 100Mb typical with speeds up to 1Gb. The best downloads per tomshardware are 85Mb which is not enough to meet the average 4g defintion. Verizon's average is 53.3, which is half the 4g definition.

      https://pdfs.semanticscholar.o...
      https://www.tomsguide.com/us/b...

    2. Re:Ready or not, here they come.. by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      The best downloads per tomshardware are 85Mb which is not enough to meet the average 4g defintion. Verizon's average is 53.3, which is half the 4g definition.

      And despite that, I can't think the last time I thought "this is taking too long to download" or "I wish I had faster download speeds" - on my phone at least. Faster is obviously better- and IF 5G is faster that will be great... but I'm not willing to fork out a lot of extra money for it. If costs are comparable I'm on board, if not... I'm not concerned.

      I AM concerned though, if as some reports state, that 5G stops working when it rains. I'll stick with 4G if 5G is unreliable. I won't be a first adopter.

      --
      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    3. Re:Ready or not, here they come.. by mjwx · · Score: 2

      The chip sets are shipping, phones are being engineered and built, carriers are buying spectrum space, vendors are starting to ship the equipment and the marketing blitz is already on.

      It doesn't matter if you are ready or not, it's going to happen unless there is some huge unforeseen world/national event that makes it financially impossible. It's happening, like it or not.

      That isn't the question.

      Sure it's being shipped, but will it be bought. The problem you've got is that 5G offers no advantages over 4G LTE and that hasn't even finished rolling out yet. 4G is already fast enough that data caps can't keep up with it. Besides all the speed in the world will not help you in the middle of London or New York where towers are horribly congested (even in Basingstoke town centre it's terrible).

      --
      Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
  3. 5G will expose carriers as the liars they are by nwaack · · Score: 2

    So at the current mobile data rates and caps, mobile carriers will either have to charge 100's of dollars for a single 5G plan (maybe 1000+), or admit that they've been price gouging for mobile data for many years.

  4. 3G to 4G didn't bring significant news by ffkom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given the scarce data volumes sold at outrageous prices, 3G was already fast enough to exploit one's "included volume" quickly. When 4G became active, I hardly noticed any difference - the phone was usable for the same kinds of use cases as before, and unusable because of price per volume for everything else. I do not see how 5G is going to change that. Does it matter if it takes a few minutes or a few seconds to burn through your traffic-per-month?

    1. Re:3G to 4G didn't bring significant news by ffkom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You mean like GPRS really bringing the success for WAP, like Edge satisfying all our bandwidth needs, like UMTS bringing blazingly fast data plus ultra high quality voice connections to everyone, and like 4G "LTE" bringing a "Long Term Evolution"?

      Sorry, but there is no reason to believe in the next of those hypes. There is no obstacle to connect LTE towers with "extra big tubes", if that is what carriers wanted. What they really want is people spending more money on data transfers, while limiting their investments as much as possible.

  5. Re:So should we or should we not? by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    first gen 5g phones are gonna suck through battery like crazy. I wouldn't get one until the 5g modem can be integrated and doesn't need to be separate. Probably best to hold off for a year or so to technology mature.

  6. Re:5g is pointless by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    But how it will go. So fast with the cat video clips and many different Linux iso downloads.
    Find all the non systemd iso and try them all. Upload a video about each install.
    Think of the games.
    That 100 gig game download.
    Then the 60 gig patch next day.
    5G will make content download and upload so much more fun for a few days of the cap each month.

    --
    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  7. LTE stood what what again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    My "4G" enabled Moto G6 has a big "LTE" logo next to the signal bars. Didn't that stand for Long Term Evolution? Wasn't it supposed to mean that they would eventually give us real 4G speeds if we all bought modems and handsets first?

    WTF ever happened to FINISHING the 4G rollout?

  8. Something to consider... by acoustix · · Score: 2

    ...is that even on 4G in the U.S. we aren't getting close to the speeds that were originally promised for 3G. With 3G we were promised speeds as fast a 100mbps and in reality is was maybe 3-5mbps. Now with 4G most markets won't deliver speeds close to half of that. And now we're told that 5G will be able to replace dedicated circuits with the same speed and reliability? I call BS. I am VERY skeptical.

    --
    "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson