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A Philosopher Argues That an AI Can't Be an Artist (technologyreview.com)

Sean Dorrance Kelly, a philosophy professor at Harvard, writes for MIT Technology Review: Human creative achievement, because of the way it is socially embedded, will not succumb to advances in artificial intelligence. To say otherwise is to misunderstand both what human beings are and what our creativity amounts to. This claim is not absolute: it depends on the norms that we allow to govern our culture and our expectations of technology. Human beings have, in the past, attributed great power and genius even to lifeless totems. It is entirely possible that we will come to treat artificially intelligent machines as so vastly superior to us that we will naturally attribute creativity to them. Should that happen, it will not be because machines have outstripped us. It will be because we will have denigrated ourselves.

[...] My argument is not that the creator's responsiveness to social necessity must be conscious for the work to meet the standards of genius. I am arguing instead that we must be able to interpret the work as responding that way. It would be a mistake to interpret a machine's composition as part of such a vision of the world. The argument for this is simple. Claims like Kurzweil's that machines can reach human-level intelligence assume that to have a human mind is just to have a human brain that follows some set of computational algorithms -- a view called computationalism. But though algorithms can have moral implications, they are not themselves moral agents. We can't count the monkey at a typewriter who accidentally types out Othello as a great creative playwright. If there is greatness in the product, it is only an accident. We may be able to see a machine's product as great, but if we know that the output is merely the result of some arbitrary act or algorithmic formalism, we cannot accept it as the expression of a vision for human good.

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  1. The Turning Museum by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Put works by both humans and AI in a museum, see if anyone can pick out which is which.

    Turns out not only can an AI be an artists, but many humans claiming to be artists are not.

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    1. Re:The Turning Museum by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Put works by both humans and AI in a museum, see if anyone can pick out which is which.

      Or art by Elephants in an Elephant Art Gallery

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    2. Re:The Turning Museum by LordKronos · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Exactly. Normally I would be inclined to agree with this philosopher, but when you take a colored canvas with a stripe, a white canvas with some paint splatters, or even just a solid white canvas, and you can call it art, then I'm willing to give AI the benefit of the doubt on this one

    3. Re:The Turning Museum by ichimunki · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not big fan of some of the art you describe, but it certainly qualifies as "art" in a way that an image generated by an algorithm wouldn't be. None of the artists who produce the kinds of works you describe only produced those works in isolation. Their work is part of a larger discussion in the art world. Those works were not necessarily created with the intent to have wide appeal, but to say something about the role of the artist in making artwork and/or the role of viewer in looking at art. And if that discussion is not always apparent in the works themselves, it certainly would be part of the ancillary materials the artist would produce as well: artist's statements and things like that. At the current state of the art, there is no way an AI could come up with something useful to communicate via its works that would serve the same function. I mean, you could train an "AI" with scans of every artwork ever and what would it do with that? Sure it could take some random seed and generate an image that might even be very pleasant to look at, but the AI wouldn't tell you why it thought this was important to do, that would take a separate and completely different kind of "AI" entirely. It's the difference between a self-driving car being able to get from point A to point B, and the car deciding where it wants to go and why.

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  2. what a wanker by Ionized · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can't count the monkey at a typewriter who accidentally types out Othello as a great creative playwright.

    ok, but what about the monkey that repeatedly cranks out great plays? when does it stop being an accident?

    We may be able to see a machine's product as great, but if we know that the output is merely the result of some arbitrary act or algorithmic formalism, we cannot accept it as the expression of a vision for human good.

    who's to say that we all aren't just performing arbitrary acts of algorithmic formalism, based on our past experiences and chemical reactions in our brains? this fundamentally boils down to free will and thinking we have some magical divine spark inside us, instead of us just being unimaginably complex meat computers. the jury's still out on that one.

  3. Art can be anything by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Insightful
    All that an objects needs in order to be art is for someone to call it "art". There is no deliberation regarding its merit, form, method of production or relationship with anything else. Just look at any of the abstract stuff - especially the trivial, like Rothko or the semi-random like Pollock.

    So if we apply an artistic Turing test and it would be impossible to tell whether something came from a human mind, a random event or a computer's action.

    So on that basis, computers - like nature - are capable of producing art.

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  4. Perhaps this is a stupid translation, but... by John+Guilt · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...to me it all translates into: Atoms in living cells are magic: there is no arrangement of atoms not in living cells can duplicate some things they can do.

  5. It's a low bar to reach by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's sad how low art has fallen. I won't be surprised in the least if crappy computer-generated art can pass for real. After all, the real art that blights our culture is of such a low standard, it would be difficult to do worse. Our artists today are neither deep, original, nor articulate. One hopes they will be the next part of society replaced by automation. Let them learn to code.

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  6. Very true by inicom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    AI can absolutely create decorative items that may be pleasing to the eye, like many an unskilled artisan who has learned to replicate a decorative form (or Romero Britto, FTM) , but it is not art. Art is a response from the artist, often provocative, that channels their consciousness into their creation.

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  7. Re:And now you know... by novakyu · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I disagree.