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Microsoft Workers' Letter Demands Company Drop $479 Million HoloLens Military Contract (theverge.com)

A group of Microsoft workers have addressed top executives in a letter demanding the company drop a controversial contract with the U.S. army. The Verge reports: The workers object to the company taking a $479 million contract last year to supply tech for the military's Integrated Visual Augmentation System, or IVAS. Under the project, Microsoft, the maker of the HoloLens augmented reality headset, could eventually provide more than 100,000 headsets designed for combat and training in the military. The Army has described the project as a way to "increase lethality by enhancing the ability to detect, decide and engage before the enemy." "We are alarmed that Microsoft is working to provide weapons technology to the US Military, helping one country's government 'increase lethality' using tools we built," the workers write in the letter, addressed to CEO Satya Nadella and president Brad Smith. "We did not sign up to develop weapons, and we demand a say in how our work is used."

The letter, which organizers say included dozens of employee signatures at publication time, argues Microsoft has "crossed the line into weapons development" with the contract. "Intent to harm is not an acceptable use of our technology," it reads. The workers are demanding the company cancel the contract, stop developing any weapons technology, create a public policy committing to not build weapons technology, and appoint an external ethics review board to enforce the policy. While the letter notes the company has an AI ethics review process called Aether, the workers say it is "not robust enough to prevent weapons development, as the IVAS contract demonstrates." "As employees and shareholders we do not want to become war profiteers," the letter sent today concludes. "To that end, we believe that Microsoft must stop in its activities to empower the U.S. Army's ability to cause harm and violence."

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  1. Dozens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really? They employ how many thousands but only dozens signed it? They should fire every employee on that signed it.

  2. Lots of common MS software is used for war already by Pirulo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's hypocritical to take a half stance. Certainly many computers used in every US war are running Microsoft basic products like OSs and data bases. It's evident software is becoming a weapon. What do they suggest? leave the development to Russia and China? Humanity is far from leaving in peace, in the meantime you better keep up.

  3. Pathetic by enigma32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This kind of thing is getting a little ridiculous.
    The pencils that sit on the desk at some military office somewhere are also involved with the end result. Should people object to making pencils that are bought by the military?

    If these people have a problem with what the military does (and I'm not necessarily saying they shouldn't), perhaps they should get involved with politics instead. That's the right way to solve the problem, rather than hiding behind a letter and thinking that absolves them of something.

    1. Re:Pathetic by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why not do both?

    2. Re:Pathetic by terrycarlino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Killing people is almost never a military objective. It is a consequence of enemy forces trying to prevent you from achieving you military objective.

      No military in the history of the world has done as much to prevent collateral damage (i.e. the killing of innocent bystanders) as the U.S. military. That is just a fact.

      Do innocent bystanders sometimes die? Yes, but it's not for want of trying to ensure they are not.

      It's also true that war is a political decision. If you don't like the political decisions being made become more involved in politics. Conversely you don't always control when an adversary pushes you into war.

      You can disagree about U.S. involvement in Iraq, but you shouldn't pretend Iraq wasn't killing U.S. citizens and supporting terrorism. (And no not being involved in 9/11 doesn't mean Iraq wasn't supporting terrorism. Certainly the Kurds are not unhappy that the U.S. became involved in Iraq.)

      I want U.S. soldiers to have the very best equipment available. Because they are real people who I don't want to die because someone who lives under the protective umbrella they provide is living in a fantasy which maintains that disarming the U.S. will make things safer.

  4. Good on them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Most highly intelligent people will be anti war.
    And now we get to read all the comments from the sociopaths who can't comprehend how anyone could be anti war.

    1. Re:Good on them! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most highly intelligent people will be anti war.

      I believe that most highly intelligent people understand that conflict is an inescapable human trait, and no amount of feel-good rhetoric is going to change the fact that there are people in power out there who simply don't give a damn about human life if it stands in the way of their goals, or if taking it will further those goals. If you've got a means of dealing with such people that doesn't involve force, you've got a Nobel Peace Prize waiting for you. "We can use sanctions!" Sure, but how do you go about enforcing those? I mean, it's worked so well for North Korea, right?

      It's admirable to be against war and killing, and it'd be great not to need that, but as long as there are those that will kill with impunity, there will be a need to play on their level.

    2. Re:Good on them! by I75BJC · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like Albert Einstein? He was really, really smart and he personally petitioned POTUS FDRoosevelt to build the Atomic Bomb in order to match Nazi research and development of their own Atomic Bomb. The USA did develop the Atomic Bomb and very intelligent people did the work. What an inaccurate statement.

    3. Re:Good on them! by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Virtually everyone is "anti-war". That doesn't mean you have to be a pacifist, in fact, the more lethal and effective your weapons, the easier it is to avoid it. As evidenced by the fact that almost no one here has ever had to fight in a war, get drafted, or killed, and why there have been no major world conflicts since 1945.

          The US military exists to *prevent you from getting killed*, "provide you with the freedom to succeed in life*, and is generally responsible for your extremely safe, wealthy, and comfortable life.

          These people were plenty happy to take the money for every sort of creepy spying behavior, putting out crap software and selling it largely through strongarm tactics and bribery. But serve the legitimate aims of government, there they draw the line.
            This is hallmark virtue signalling, because they know that this will go ahead anyway, and they can all say they are going to quit, but almost none of them will.

    4. Re:Good on them! by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Almost nobody (except fascist dictators wishing to increase their power) is pro-war. The reason otherwise peaceful nations have and maintain a military is pretty simple. Economically, often it's cheaper to simply take resources away from someone else than it is to grow/collect/build them yourself. e.g. The Viking lifestyle of pillaging and raiding. It completely screws over the person you're taking stuff away from, but if you care only about yourself then it is the economically more cost-effective to take stuff away from others.

      The goal of everyone not wanting to be screwed over this way then, is to make it more expensive for someone to take your resources away by force, than it would be for them to grow/collect/build the resources themselves. This means maintaining a military which can inflict sufficient damage upon an attacker so that even if they win, the stuff they manage to pillage from you is worth less than the damage they'll sustain from your counterattack. Nobody actually plans to use those military weapons - the threat alone is enough to cause the desired behavior.

      Fail to maintain that level of military capability, and you relegate yourself to repeatedly and endlessly being screwed over by others. Your only protection then becomes the pity of others who happen to have sufficient military power to intimidate or force your attacker into stopping.

      The pacifist notion that the military is full of bullies and guys with a macho complex who want to beat up and kill others, is rather disconnected from reality. The vast majority of people serving in the military believe their country has a good thing going, and wish to help defend and maintain it. If you don't believe in protecting what we have, then that is your right. But realize that you can enjoy your livelihood and pacifist lifestyle solely because of those willing to fight in your stead. Pacifism is not self-perpetuating; it can only perpetuate when someone else is willing to fight to defend it.

      Of course having a military available means it can be mis-used. And a society needs to implement measures to prevent the military from being mis-used that way. But advocating the complete elimination of the military is socio-economic suicide. Nations without a military or a friendly ally with a military tend not to last too long. They get invaded and taken over, and their pacifist government is replaced by their conqueror.

  5. Re:Fire them by mschuyler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It could happen, but it's not a good idea. It just gets Microsoft into a pissing match with righteous SJWs. They really should not be fired, just ignored. Employees don't set policy. If they are bothered by this, they can quit. Microsoft management should know that anything they say will be used against them, so just don't say anything beyond "Thank you for your input."

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  6. Must be nice to live in a bubble... by ToTheStars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Quoth George Orwell: "Those who “abjure” violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf."

  7. Do you hate people? by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Insightful

    One thing the military is involved in a lot of places around the world is humanitarian relief, since they can bring in basically a small city with modern medical supplies, doctors, food and water purification plants on demand to any coast.

    So don't forget you are demanding not to help THAT either. Seems fairly short-sighted and ill considered to me.

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  8. Re:Lots of common MS software is used for war alre by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good point, anyone who ever changes their opinion on anything is a hypocrite and should be condemned. Never learn or evolve your ethics, figure them out when you are a kid and stick to them no matter what.

    Oh, and whatever you do don't think anything is less than black and white. There is literally no difference between typing up orders in Word and using a Hololens in the field to direct drone strikes.

    Good point about China and Russia too. The ICBMs and the hypersonic cruise missiles won't deter them, but Hololens is sure to make them think twice. And that's definitely what it will be used for.

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  9. We have nukes and two oceans by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Insightful

    that time is long, long gone. And that's before you take into account Globalism's effect. The rich and powerful have stopped allowing wars except for the occasional one to steal resources (oil mostly). For example, Pakistan has been glibly ignoring terrorists attacking India for decades and still no war there. Why? Bad for business.

    At this point the only thing keeping wars going is the Military Industrial Complex. Folks standing up to stop feeding that beast is a good thing.

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  10. Re: And even animals know what ends a fight by jwhyche · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Anyone who clings to the historically untrue -- and thoroughly immoral -- doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms." - Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

    Isaac Asimov was a great writer. His Foundation series remains, and will remain, one of the great classics of SciFi. But on this manner he is completely wrong. Violence is not the last refuge of the incompetent. Violence is the first choice of the incompetent. It is usually the only choice or the last choice of the desperate.

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