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Drug Pollution In Rivers Reaching Damaging Levels For Animals and Ecosystems, Scientists Warn (independent.co.uk)

pgmrdlm shares a report from The Independent: Medicines including antibiotics and epilepsy drugs are increasingly being found in the world's rivers at concentrations that can damage ecosystems, a study has shown. Dutch researchers developed a model for estimating concentrations of drugs in the world's fresh water systems to predict where they could cause the most harm to the food web. The study, published in Environmental Research Letters, focuses on two particular drugs: antibiotic ciprofloxacin and anti-epileptic drug carbamazepine. Between 1995 and 2015 it found that rising concentrations of the drugs and the increasing number of water tables affected meant the risks to aquatic ecosystems are 10 to 20 times higher than two decades earlier.

Carbamazepine has been linked to disrupting the development of fish eggs and shellfish digestive processes, and the study found potential risks were most pronounced in arid areas with a few major streams. The risks were much more widespread for ciprofloxacin, with 223 of 449 ecosystems tested showing a significant risk increase. More worrying still, when [the researchers] compared their predictions to samples from four river systems they found their model was underestimating the risk. Pharmaceutical residues can enter these fresh water systems through waste water from poorly maintained sewer systems, or from run-off over fields for drugs used in livestock.

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  1. i got to ask by FudRucker · · Score: 4, Funny

    is it turning the freakin frogs gay?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    1. Re:i got to ask by Kuruk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would agree the care factor of the average human is zero.

    2. Re: i got to ask by astrofurter · · Score: 2

      Riiiiiight... Blame consumers for consuming. But don't even think about blaming government for failure to govern.

  2. Antibiotic resistance by manu0601 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do not be surprise we see antibiotic resistance. First we gave antibiotic to cattle just in case, and then we pour some into rivers. Many microbes will get exposed to it, and some will adapt.

  3. Personally, I blame ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... the cops. Every time they start pounding on my front door, I've got to flush my stash.

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  4. Widespread Waste Mismanagement by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A while back we went to go look at a work-for-rent cabin outside of Willits, on a supposedly permacultural demonstration farm. Turned out the owner had workshops there, and she had attendees shit in buckets in an outhouse, then literally buried the shit in a hole next to the river that some neighbor dug for her with his backhoe. This person recently gave the keynote speech at a local farm conference. So as it turns out, both municipal waste management systems and hippies in the woods are shitting up our water systems. You might say it's end-to-end.

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    1. Re:Widespread Waste Mismanagement by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

      Would it possibly be better to bury these medications (away from a river)? How about mixing them up with something first to decompose/denature them, or disposing of them in used cooking oil, used paint, or other household products that are discarded in bulk containers? It just seems that anything that makes it more difficult to get rid of these medications is prone to making them victim to absent-minded cleanup down the drain.

    2. Re:Widespread Waste Mismanagement by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative

      They have programs to incinerate (the only actual way to destroy these things) pills for free. People are simply too lazy to use them,

      The situation is actually much more complicated than you're making it out to be. Some of these drugs can actually survive passing through sewage treatment, and treated sewage is generally discharged into waterways. That's why I brought up my particular anecdote — not only is that kind of behavior a hazard because of hazardous biologicals, it's also a problem because of persistent and stable pharmaceuticals.

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    3. Re: Widespread Waste Mismanagement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      More pharmaceuticals are passed via urine and feces than thrown down the drain. FFS

      It might have been different in the past where prescription drugs weren't the biggest problem, but it is now. And it isn't just prescription drugs but many plastics (found in everything from residential plumbing now to furniture finishes to disposable eyewear) as well.

      And biodegradable plastics don't vanish when they get broken down, they just get smaller and more easily enter waterways via everything from leaching out of landfills to rain that has originated on heavily trafficked lakes and rivers.

    4. Re: Widespread Waste Mismanagement by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Distinct problems that both contribute, and you just added a third now.

      I never claimed my prior comment was an exhaustive list of the related issues. That's your [faulty] assumption, which makes an ass out of u, and umption.

      You continue to conflate them, which is unsurprising at this point.

      They are all contributory. This is not as complicated as you want to make it. I understand that you are playing the confused victim of a complicated conversation, but it's not that complicated. Anyone who can comprehend the ins and outs of a modern computer should be able to grasp these concepts adequately to have a conversation about them.

      No, phage therapy does not solve all these problems

      It would significantly reduce the amount of medication required, so while it might or might not solve the problem, it would assist in its mitigation.

      I'm trying to be polite but you're grossly oversimplifying.

      I'm trying to be polite, but you're grossly simple.

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    5. Re: Widespread Waste Mismanagement by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      As you persist in mischaracterizing my statements, I can see that engaging you was a fat waste of time. I should really learn to just ignore ACs. The vast majority of you are not logging in not due to laziness, but due to an unwillingness to be judged.

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    6. Re:Widespread Waste Mismanagement by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      I assume most of the medications in the sewage water are there because they are not completely metabolized, and we pee/poop them out.

  5. You may not be old enough to remember by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    when rivers feeding the Great Lakes used to catch fire?

    I mean drugs in the water are bad, but at least the fish get a nice buzz. /s

    For the interested:

    https://www.environmentalcounc...

  6. Re:Fight pollution, not climate change by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 2

    Sadly, in today's world it is "educate instead of shaming, and you'll be swiftly ignored". With people like Betsy DeVille setting the standards for public education in the developed world (oh, yes, the US does, unfortunately, still have a lot of influence) education means nothing.

    Today advertising rules, and modern society is a fucking popularity contest. The only result that matters is the polls, and these cater to the average.

    And the average is abysmally stupid.

  7. Re:Fight pollution, not climate change by ilguido · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the kind of thing that is much easier to get public support for than the hockey sticks and whatnots.

    I'd like to elaborate about this point. The eventual benefits of a CO2 reduction, for example, are very difficult to acknowledge, because they could take years to materialize, if at all. Instead, the benefits of cleaner water and cleaner air can be easily and quickly evaluated. That's why there wouldn't be as much controversy for pollution as there is for climate change policies.

  8. Re:Fight pollution, not climate change by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

    Also, most people will not be personally affected by measures to reduce drug pollution.

  9. Agriculture by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While other drugs may be an issue, the elephant in the room is agriculture. For vegetable, big ag uses all sort of pesticides and fertilizers that wind up polluting the water. For animals, they use antibiotics.

    The antibiotics are not even meant to preserve animal health, although that's a nice side effect. Weirdly, animals on antibiotics gain weight more quickly, which is (afaik) the real motivation. But these antibiotics wind up in the waste, and from there in the runoff and in the rivers.

    What we need is simple: an absolute prohibition on medicating animals that are not sick. Period.

    p.s. It's a bit off-topic here, but: the prices for the antibiotics have to be cheap, for this to work economically. The exact same antibiotics for people are generally massively higher. An interesting comment on big pharma.

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    1. Re:Agriculture by malkavian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Considering that Antibiotic use for anything other than illness has been illegal for a long time, and it costs money, I think you're woefully misinformed in current day agricultural practice. Pesticides and fertilisers are sparingly used (and agriculture does a lot of research on the minimum spray doses they can use; after all, that costs money too).
      So your 'we need is a prohibition on medicating animals that aren't sick' already exists.

    2. Re:Agriculture by butchersong · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's a nice thought but it isn't the case in practice. There are many feedlots that feed all their animals CTC Crumbles for instance and I can tell you that inject able antibiotics are routinely used as a preventative and not to treat anything... you just need a vet signoff but when your business is feedlot beef, that is just paperwork. This is in the states. God knows what it is like in China.

  10. Deniers by sdinfoserv · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you can't convince the GOP global warming is real, corporations are not people and trickle down economics is a complete failure - this is just back ground babble.

  11. Re:They are not distinct, there are finite resourc by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 2

    It's statistical processes that make something natural. Eg. butter has been consumed by humans for thousands of years, and previously never by any humans ever. Margarine had been consumed for about 50. So food-wise no butter is the most natural, butter is fairly natural, margarine is the least natural. It's those "very little natural" substances and processes that we for simplicity call unnatural.

    How natural something is isn't always correlated to how good it is for you of course, but in the absence of other information and combined with common sense that metric serves as a useful guide.