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Thirty-Million-Page Backup of Humanity Headed To Moon Aboard Israeli Lander (cnet.com)
Last week, a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carried an Israeli-made spacecraft named Beresheet beyond the grasp of Earth's gravity and sent it on its way to the surface of the moon. On board Beresheet is a specially designed disc encoded with a 30-million-page archive of human civilization built to last billions of years into the future. From a report: The backup for humanity has been dubbed "The Lunar Library" by its creator, the Arch Mission Foundation (AMF). "The idea is to place enough backups in enough places around the solar system, on an ongoing basis, that our precious knowledge and biological heritage can never be lost," the nonprofit's co-founder Nova Spivack told CNET via email.
The disc aboard Beresheet is about the size and thickness of a DVD, but consists of 25 stacked thin nickel films that AMF insists can resist radiation, extreme temperatures and other harsh conditions found in space for billions of years. There is, of course, no way to test how long it will last, but if it survives as long as hoped, the disc may even be around longer than the moon itself. The top four layers are actually filled with 60,000 pages of tiny analog images that can be viewed with optical microscope technology that's been around for centuries. The images include a sort of users' guide explaining human language, the contents of the disc and how to access the deeper layers containing compressed digital data.
The disc aboard Beresheet is about the size and thickness of a DVD, but consists of 25 stacked thin nickel films that AMF insists can resist radiation, extreme temperatures and other harsh conditions found in space for billions of years. There is, of course, no way to test how long it will last, but if it survives as long as hoped, the disc may even be around longer than the moon itself. The top four layers are actually filled with 60,000 pages of tiny analog images that can be viewed with optical microscope technology that's been around for centuries. The images include a sort of users' guide explaining human language, the contents of the disc and how to access the deeper layers containing compressed digital data.
I wonder if any of those pages will contain information about the crimes the state of Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It could be like finding cave paintings I suppose... more of a cultural artifact than a practical one.
And one page of goatse
For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
Sun researchers find strange eclipse reading
Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse
It has blood on it!
ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander
Have zero references to Israel's despicable treatment of the Palestinians whose land they have occupied and whose citizenship and human dignity they have denied in their "holy" quest to control land and commerce.
"There is, of course, no way to test how long it will last, but if it survives as long as hoped, the disc may even be around longer than the moon itself."
Idiocracy is here. No one even questions that statement.
There IS nobody to find it. Nobody EXISTS to find it and it makes no sense. This is a vanity shot. As if the Earth were somehow destroyed and somehow the moon would survive significantly longer? It's retarded, mazeltov.
I bet it gets creamed by a meteorite within 1000 years anyway, the lunar surface is no place for "safekeeping" lol. Maybe if they drilled a half mile in or something like that, but no. This is just an excuse to plant a flag.
Changes are that anyone capable of locating, retrieving and accessing that data, does not need a backup of that data.
So off-planetary backups will be a thing now?
It's beyond hypothetical, so why would you need to "question" it as if a testable statement? We don't know the moon will survive past next week. The disc will last a long time, that was the point of the exaggerated nothing-statement.
IF it survives as long AS HOPED, the disc MAY even be around longer than the moon itself. Logically it's valid. It could happen. Is it stupid to say out loud? Yes.
"a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carried an Israeli-made spacecraft named Beresheet beyond the grasp of Earth's gravity...
If the moon were beyond the grasp of earth's gravity, it wouldn't be the moon.
Never let a lack of data get in the way of a good rant.
There's a blank page at the end.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
That's going to make a great story plot for the movie made by the alien archeologists who will find the disc.
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Nothing like an anti-Semite implicitly supporting genocide.
Or do you really think the logical result of the "Israel has no right to exist" assertion these twits support is anything other than genocide?
Let's go right to the Palestinians themselves:
Mother Of Palestinian Knife Attacker In Praise Of Son: He Was A Butcher, Knew How To Slaughter
That's an actual Palestinian TV interview from Hamas with the mother of what civilized people call a terrorist.
Yep, that's what you brain-dead fools support.
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Where truth and facts can't correct their record... that's the shelter they seek. Their lies are preserved from the corrections of the factual record.
'And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'
This might be taking the need to air gap your backup disks a bit too far. On the other hand, I wonder how long it will be before the disks are hacked and 30 million pages of data found lying around on the moon are exposed?
enough backups in enough places around the solar system, on an ongoing basis, that our precious knowledge and biological heritage can never be lost
So if civilisation does crash, the sum total of human knowledge won't be lost. We will know where it is: on the Moon. But until we regain that knowledge we will not be able to get back to the Moon to read it.
And by that time, it will be rather irrelevant as we will have already rediscovered it!
politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
"B’resheet" means "In the beginning". It is the Hebrew name for what many know as the book of Genesis, being the first few words from it.
Constitutionally Correct
Israel's government is actually factually guilty of crimes against humanity. There's no debate, it's a fact. To say and know that has nothing to do with "the jews" though. Sorry, goosestepping GOP nazi faggots. You lose.
Americans and Europeans know Israel's government is not our ally, whatever we collectively think about the civilians there - on both sides - who are made to suffer for that lawless cabal. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Divesting and Boycotting in protest IS A RIGHT, and to use those to pressure Israel's LIKUD/IRGUN terrorist right-wing government to improve IS A DUTY.
What about the 30-billion page porn archive?
Well, one may assume the aliens know how to view that disc, and that they have a microscope. But what if that's not the case? Don't they want something to play it, make sounds, be self-powered etc. on contact?
...we just fly to the moon to learn how to reboot?
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Of course Divesting and Boycotting in protest IS A RIGHT.
And so to is buying from a company (or country) because you agree with them.
Your BDS is failing miserably. In a couple years China will be a bigger trading partner with Israel than Europe. Not too long after that the rest of Asia (especially India, Sourth Korea and Japan) will also be a larger than the European market.
Whatever you think of Israel the Palestinians keep shooting themselves in the foot. And BDS isn't going to help them.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
If the world plunged into a Zombie apocalypse and 80% had their brain eaten, what flipping good is a library on the moon gonna do????
Trump is a nazi, the "left" can't stand the disgusting terrorist IRGUN/LIKUD Israeli government under also-criminal Bilbo Nyuttyahoo. Most jews vote Democratic because they see the Republicans for what they are - Nazi cowards.
We're going to hang you, of course, GOP nazi cowards. Amen.
Israel's government is actually factually guilty of crimes against humanity. There's no debate, it's a fact. To say and know that has nothing to do with "the jews" though. Sorry, goosestepping GOP nazi faggots. You lose.
Americans and Europeans know Israel's government is not our ally, whatever we collectively think about the civilians there - on both sides - who are made to suffer for that lawless cabal. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Divesting and Boycotting in protest IS A RIGHT, and to use those to pressure Israel's LIKUD/IRGUN terrorist right-wing government to improve IS A DUTY.
Damn, you're a brain-dead fool.
When will the entire Arab world start printing maps with Israel on them?
You don't even want to understand why they don't do that, do you?
Learn something: dar al-Harb: "non-Islamic lands whose rulers are called upon to accept Islam".
The goal is to wipe Israel off the map. Literally.
That goes by another name: genocide.
Poke around memri.org and see the actual TV shows Palestinians are subjected to. See the cuddly little bee teaching Palestinian children to kill Jews.
Got the BALLS to actually watch that murderous Palestinian propaganda?
And can you find any equivalent mass-market Israeli shows teaching Israeli children to murder Arabs?
Crawl outside your little echo chamber and learn the actual facts of what's going on in the Middle East.
Assuming that we're no longer around, it's a fairly safe bet that any civilization capable of recovering the discs will be able to extract the information. It's hard to imagine aliens capable of traveling across the galaxy that are confounded by primitive data. Fully comprehending the information may be another matter, but I imagine they'll be able to puzzle out accessing it. We do live in the same physical universe, so it's not a stretch to imagine that they would have developed and used (or still use) similar technology themselves.
"Of course Divesting and Boycotting in protest IS A RIGHT." OF COURSE? Then why is Israel's govt through AIPAC pressuring countries around the world to pass laws against it?
Why spend millions and go out of their way to stifle that "right" if they have nothing to fear from it, as you claim? And why would you defend that?
middleeastmonitor.com/20180802-uk-controversial-anti-bds-motion-sent-for-legal-review/
This post was drafted in 2016; last updated 2/20/2019.
1. 26 states have already enacted legislation that targets boycotts for Palestinian rights.
Anti-boycott laws have been enacted in the following states: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky* Louisiana*, Maryland*, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York*, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin*.
*The governors of Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, New York and Wisconsin signed anti-boycott executive orders.
Visit www.righttoboycott.org for an overview of anti-boycott legislation.
2. Activists have successfully defeated anti-boycott legislation in several states.
For example, in 2018, activists in Missouri defeated an anti-boycott bill. Anti-boycott bills in Washington State and Montana failed to advance in 2017.
In 2016, activists defeated anti-boycott bills in Maryland, Virginia, and Massachusetts. A Maryland coalition defeated the same bill again in 2017, after which the Maryland governor issued an anti-boycott executive order. In New York, activists successfully stopped two anti-boycott bills from passing the legislature before Governor Cuomo signed an anti-boycott executive order.
At the federal level, pressure from civil liberties groups and concerned citizens succeeded in preventing Congress from passing the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (IABA) in 2018.
3. Other states and the federal government are still considering anti-boycott bills.
Anti-boycott bills are pending in some states, including Missouri and Mississippi, along with amendments to existing anti-boycott laws in Arizona and Texas, in response to litigation challenging those laws.
Go to https://palestinelegal.org/federal for information about anti-boycott legislation pending in Congress.
4. Even some county legislatures have waded into the debate.
Some counties have also considered anti-boycott measures. For example, Rockland and Nassau Counties in New York passed anti-boycott ordinances or resolutions. A proposal in New Castle County, DE, failed to pass.
5. Keep in mind, none of the anti-boycott bills and laws take away your right to boycott for Palestinian rights or to advocate for such boycotts.
Instead, these initiatives rely on one, two, or three of the following components:
Blacklists. Some of the anti-boycott bills/laws require the creation of blacklists of activists, non-profit organizations, and/or companies that are engaged in boycotts of Israel (including, in some cases, “territories controlled by Israel”). It's 21st century McCarthyism.
Interestingly, putting together a list of boycott supporters isn’t as straight-forward as some lawmakers expect, as Illinois discovered. The lack of procedural clarity on who is subject to such singling out and punishment for their political views is one of the big legal issues with these laws. But even addressing the procedural flaws would not overcome the underlying First Amendment concerns raised by these blacklists.
Prohibition on government contracts. Some of the anti-boycott bills/laws aim to punish individuals, non-profit organizations, and/or companies that support boycotts for Palestinian rights by prohibiting the state or local government from entering into contracts with them. So, for example, under some anti-boycott laws, the United Church of Christ or the Presbyterian Church (USA) could be prohibited from contracting with the state to run social services like soup kitche
Nothing you wrote there absolves or lessens Israel's govt culpability in crimes against humanity, sorry whattaboutist moron.
The disc is a format type including material, not just a single object. The discs, plural, as a readable data format may outlast the moon. Dither as you need to be upset about this, but it changes nothing about the hypothetical.
Someone's gotta be there to tell them to turn it off and turn it back on again.
someday millions of years from now some ETs will discover a disk with a bunch of old testament style begats of a bunch of dumb humans that went extinct because they could not keep their environment clean and stable
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
Oh wait, that's the Palestinians who are deliberately targeting civilians. But that's good, because Israel is bad, because anti-Semitism is good when you realize that jews are white and therefore privileged and evil.
I kicked in $20 to the project when I first heard about it. It was competing for the Google Lunar X Prize. The project doesn't have state backing, but several state owned enterprises have made in-kind and other sorts of donations, especially expertise, particularly Israel Aerospace Industries. The original cost of the project ballooned to $100 million, which shows that even a bare-boned project like this is exorbitantly expensive. To my knowledge *none* of the other X-Prize teams made it this far.
I hope they make it. I was reading that the other times have told the SpaceIL team they are rooting for it. If they pull off a successful landing it creates the private lunar transport industry. If it fails, the industry may die in the womb.
Defending your country against Islam isn't a crime.
It's survival, and humankind's necessity.
It's not ideal, but ironically, it's less likely to be turned into a smoking crater than the place it came from.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
OMG -- it'll last for BILLIONS and BILLIONS of years! That's wonderful! But will the guys supporting RAR / WinZIP / ARC / ?Q? also be around that long? It'd be awful to have an ARC file but on a Mac with no way to decode it. (They could at least handle a LBR file.) Easy Alien Computer Hacking.
Then again, they'd better watch out after decompression -- the RIAA and MPAA will be after them as well, since the copyright duration extensions will still be active.
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
One needs to be on Mars, with another sunk deep into the seas of Triton. And if we ever locate Planet Nine, a third copy could go there.
Of course it'd be best if each came with some mechanism to protect the archives...
#DeleteChrome
... for 5.25" floppy disks in December 1985, conveying the slogan: "Professionals avoid all risks. Scotch 3M disks are safe."
In the background of the slogan, the full page was filled with an image of the starting Challenger space shuttle.
Thirty million pages doesn't seem like much, really. The linux kernel source code is now over 25 million lines, which would be roughly 500,000 pages. So 20% of the entire knowledge of humanity is encompassed by the Linux kernel?
I don't think so. Thirty million pages is at best an exemplar of current knowledge, but nowhere near anything worthy of being called a "backup".
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.
Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.
This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):
Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):
1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."
2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."
3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."
4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."
6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."
7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."
8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."
9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."
10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."
11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."
12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."
13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."
14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."
16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."
17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."
18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."
19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."
20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."
21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H
No one else read Isaac Asimov? I'm ashamed of y'all. First foundation!
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
Who's actuarially counting the costs...lololol
It's like an Ogre?
It has layers...?
Defending your country against Israeli occupation isn't a crime. It's survival, and the region's necessity. captcha : struggle
If we loose all that, we are likely to perish all together. So probably that's a record for another species to discover.
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We accidentally sent a blank master to the factory, do you think we're too late?
The disk is simply nano-patterned nickel inside a quartz layer. Analog recording. Viewable by any optical microscope or loupe.
There's no Israeli occupation.
It's the Palestinians who don't belong there.
I'm sure if they feel so put upon, there are plenty of Islam-infected countries that would take them.
Palestinians, stop whining. Just leave.
A black rectangular monolith with sides having dimensions with the ratios 1:4:9.
At least it will be easier to retrieve than the backups on my ZIP drive.
Recycle PCs and build a wireless community network www.hillsborough.org.nz
Pop some EMP's, kill off most of the population that will freak out if the grid goes down, their phones/computers stop working, they can't drive to Starbucks. Then once things die down, someone goes and gets the backup and we hit the reboot button LOL.
Does it include the truth about WW2? Or just the Jewish version?
“Last week, a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carried an Israeli-made spacecraft named Beresheet beyond the grasp of Earth's gravity”
That's a novel way of describing orbital mechanics. Neither the spacecraft or the moon is “beyond the grasp of earth's gravity”, what they are is in orbit.
This is not true. "Thirty-Million-Page Backup ..." There are no 'pages'. With radiation and temperatures that will destroy the media long before any life will be able to FIND it let alone understand it, this is nothing but propaganda as those who can't do anything of value find new ways to scream, "look at me, I'm smart!".
I'm surprised that the Democrats didn't propose this first. Oh wait, they might have sent the idea.
"I don't hate Jews, just the state of Israel" is the way nearly all Jew haters have tried to camoflage their virulent racism.
Israel is the only place on Earth where Jews are truly safe. Even in the USA, where the Democrats are now embracing Islamic immigrants, the party has decided that demographics mean more Muslim voters in the future than Jewish voters, so the Jews are gtradually being tossed under the [political] bus.
If you want to HONESTLY criticise the GOVERNMENT of Israel, have at it. But the idea of destroying the only Jewish nation on Earth by Boycotting and Divesting and Sancioning is NOT honest criticism of the government there. BDS is just the newest attempt to help the Palestinians (a "race" that did not exist before Yassir Arafat and his pals made it up, as he admitten in a "60 Minutes" interview in the 1970s) take ownership of the land of Israel (which existed as a Jewish state long before any nation existed in Europe or the Americas) and drive the Jews into the sea.
If ANY "occupation" needs to end, it's the Arab, Egyptian, Lebanese, and Jordanian squatters occupying parts of Israel under the made-up name "palestinian". Palestine was just a made-up term derived from the Philistines and used by the Romans as an insult for the region while they occupied it. There are at least 45 Muslim nations, but there is only ONE Jewish nation and that one Jewish nation is TINY. There's only ONE truly "holy place" to the Jewish people, the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, whereas Islam has Mecha, Medina, and more. The land were Jerusalem is located is not even mentioned in the Koran, and Islam is about 700 years younger than Christianity which itself is far younger than Judaism. I have yet to hear a single logical explanation for why Islam needs the land Isael is located upon or how any Islamic claim to that land could possibly pre-date the Jewish claim.
I'm not Jewish, incidentally, I just detest stupid and/or dishonest people playing with history in order to justify their racism and bigotry and desire for genocide. I'm particularly disgusted by American leftists who routinely call Trump and his supporters "racists" and "antisemites" and then themselves support the BDS movement while claiming it's not about Jew hatred.
I really don't care about the Israeli-v-Palestinian conflict. It's a grand battle of Dicks v Assholes to me. I have noticed, though, that supporters of Israel - and sometimes even people representing the Israeli government - are very quick to shout "Antisemite! Nazi!" the moment anyone dares to criticize their beloved country, or even shows insufficient enthusiasm in supporting it.
Financially - of course it affects Israel and Israeli companies. But the issue is less the money than the debate over the legitimacy of the state. If Israel has done wrong (and you can list a series of events) then so has Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran ... and the list goes on. Hey, how about China.
I don't think Israel's list of crimes surpasses these other countries. And Israel has the same right to exist as all the rest of the countries in the world.
Going back to talking strictly on the economic end - BDS isn't going to accomplish anything of note. The hit on GDP is in the west is minor at best since exports and trade between the EU and Israel has been rising steadily over the past 20 years. Same with the US.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
This is a horrible idea and risks our species as well as each nation's national security.
...instructions on how to build a quartz silica glass disc reader.
Nobody gives a shut if you boycott Egyptian goods, and there certainly isn't an Egyptian lobby getting legislation passed to make boycotts against them illegal. AIPAC needs to be registered as a foreign agent.