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Former Hacking Team Members Are Now Spying on the Blockchain for Coinbase (vice.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Last week, cryptocurrency industry giant Coinbase sparked outrage when it announced that it had purchased a small startup called Neutrino. Normally, such an acquisition wouldn't make many waves, but Neutrino isn't your average startup. The company was founded by three former employees of Hacking Team, a controversial Italian surveillance vendor that was caught several times selling spyware to governments with dubious human rights records, such as Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan. Neutrino develops technology for law enforcement and financial institutions to investigate and track transactions on the blockchain, the shared public ledger that tracks the movement of tokens in the ecosystem. Coinbase is one of the largest platforms for buying and selling cryptocurrencies in the world, so it sees a lot of transactions on its exchange.

The company claims to be able to monitor and track not just Bitcoin -- a relatively straightforward endeavor -- but also supposedly privacy-oriented (and harder to track) coins such as Monero. In 2017, the company was able to conclude that the North Korean hackers behind the destructive ransomware WannaCry cashed out their Bitcoin and turned it into Monero. [...] In a statement to Motherboard, a Coinbase spokesperson said that the company "does not condone nor will it defend the actions of Hacking Team." "We are aware that Neutrino's co-founders previously worked at Hacking Team, which we reviewed as part of our security, technical, and hiring diligence," the spokesperson said. But Neutrino's technology was just too important for Coinbase to pass on, the spokesperson explained.

23 comments

  1. Hacking, but with buttcoins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When is the ICO

    1. Re: Hacking, but with buttcoins by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crypto currencies have always drawn the scumbags of the world in. They promise quick and easy wealth with hardly any effort put forth. And that is a huge siren call for sociopaths.

      When they realise things might be more difficult than that, they abandon ship. sometimes taking the crypto currency with them. One of the dudes working for Private Internet Access did exactly that, and got away with it. PIA said they believe in giving the dude a second chance....but my money is on him probably diverting some crypto their way.

      Scumbags will be scumbags.

  2. Not sure about Monero... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The ability to see them cashing in Bitcoin for Monero is not the same thing as being able to track Monero...

    1. Re:Not sure about Monero... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In similar news, a former FBI contractor in Palo Alto is now spying on youtube and Slashdot and many other forums with the help of sock puppet accounts.

      He is said to be from San Jose.

    2. Re:Not sure about Monero... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      That was my thoughts exactly. Show me how they can see the new wallet addresses created. And where that leads to. Chances are slim.

    3. Re:Not sure about Monero... by sleepghost · · Score: 0

      When you have something, like Monero, that nobody uses; You can do some tracking.

    4. Re:Not sure about Monero... by infolation · · Score: 1

      Undoubtedly Neutrino are only able to denonymise sloppy XMR users. If the XMR is converted using correct opsec (use Tor, crypto -> XMR at non-KYC exchange, run monerod, download entire XMR blockchain, run full node, split many transactions between many wallets offline), then output is mathematically unrelated to input. Only timing attacks remain, which can be mitigated against.

  3. It makes sense that NK is on Monero now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what all the malware coinage produces...

  4. There is nothing wrong with tracking Monero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Monero can be tracked, then the tracker is not evil. It means Monero's so called privacy orientation sucks and that the coin is crap.

    You may have moral objections to this point of view, but face it: This is the world we live in. Privacy is not something that is given, privacy is something that you have to take. Just like freedom.

    1. Re:There is nothing wrong with tracking Monero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They didn't track Monero, they just noticed the conversion.

    2. Re:There is nothing wrong with tracking Monero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Privacy is not something that is given, privacy is something that you have to take. Just like freedom.

      This is exactly right! You cannot just put information out there in places that you don't control and whine when everybody else out there doesn't respect your privacy. If you want to keep information private then don't put it in places you do not control.

    3. Re:There is nothing wrong with tracking Monero by infolation · · Score: 1

      Coinbase is known to conduct taint analysis. If they're going to consider BTC that can be traced back to an XMR-BTC conversion to be tainted, then (1) BTC isn't truly fungible and (2) avoid Coinbase.

  5. Assholes gonna asshole ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, shady assholes keep being shady assholes then?

    Sorry, if you sell shady software to governments with highly questionable ethics, don't go around acting like you were just doing your job ... you're a sack of shit, and I hope you find yourself on the wrong side of your own bullshit.

    Spyware writing douchebags don't get sympathy, and should have zero expectation of anything like privacy or the benefit of the doubt.

    That shit should follow you for the rest of your life.

    1. Re:Assholes gonna asshole ... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yea Oracle, Google and Microsoft!

    2. Re:Assholes gonna asshole ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea Oracle, Google and Microsoft!

      I would say if you worked in a spyware, surveillance, or analytics department of any of those places, the GP's post still stands.

      If your "job" is to spy on people for corporations, or allow corporations to sell that capacity to governments ... you really have decided that your paycheck is worth someone else's privacy (or even their life).

      So, yeah, none of this "I was just following orders" bullshit. You are just as complicit as the evil regimes you sell this shit to.

      I've walked away from gigs which would have had me compromise my morals. Your failure to do so isn't my problem, nor should it be a free pass.

      Some of these regimes that spyware can literally lead to imprisonment or death. If you wrote that software, you are culpable.

  6. catty toengue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't worry.
    not even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... gets it right.
    go use a hammer ... tech.

  7. Blockchain Bubble by Excelcia · · Score: 0, Troll

    YABBA DABBA DO

    Ya Another Bloody Blockchain Article
    Didn't Ask But Blockchain Aficionado Drafted One

    Please God, make them stop.

  8. So all cryptocurrencies are trackable!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since they can even track "privacy-oriented" cryptocurrencies!!!

    1. Re:So all cryptocurrencies are trackable!!! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Except they didn't track anything. They tracked them turning bitcoin into monero. There was no more tracking after that. Clickbait buillshit. Isn't that why we come to Slashdot?

    2. Re:So all cryptocurrencies are trackable!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you didn't prove that's the case, it's unclear in the above.

    3. Re:So all cryptocurrencies are trackable!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually you didn't prove that's the case, it's unclear in the above.

      Prove there is no teapot orbiting Mars.

  9. Dubious human rights records by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey let's not mention that they're also selling to the United States, a country that has engaged in kidnappings (which they call "renditions"), rape, torture, and murder in their own CIA prisons around the world.