'Prism, Prism on the Wall, Who is the Most Trustworthy of Them All?' Huawei Hits Back at US Over 5G Security Claims (zdnet.com)

The tension between Huawei and the U.S. government took a new turn Tuesday after the Chinese networking giant's rotating chairman Guo Ping poked fun at the massive surveillance programs maintained by the United States. "Prism, prism on the wall, who's the most trustworthy of them all?" Ping said onstage at Mobile World Congress tradeshow. From a report: Ping first appeared to attempt to make light of the ongoing row -- "There has never been more interest in Huawei, we must be doing something right," he said -- but later took a more direct aim at the US and some of its own issues with cybersecurity and surveillance. "Prism, Prism on the wall, who is the most trustworthy of them all?" he said, referencing the previously secret National Security Agency surveillance project, telling the audience to ask Edward Snowden -- the whistleblower who revealed the activity -- if they didn't understand what he meant. Ping also took aim at the US Cloud Act, arguing that the legislation allows the US government to demand access data held by US companies, even if it is stored in different countries. "The Cloud Act allows them to access data cross-borders. So for best technology and for greater security, please choose Huawei," he said.

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PSA for Americans and others

[nimbius]

PRISM has several techniques you can use to escape. most are FLOSS. https://prism-break.org/

Re: PSA for Americans and others

[Anonymous Coward]

Yet more people are incarcerated in the US than in China. Maybe you guys are just more criminally inclined.

Re:PSA for Americans and others

[Anonymous Coward]

Exactly, these points are overlooked. As much as we are shocked by the scope or scale of the collection, WHAT IT IS USED FOR is the key. In China such data is used to disappear dissidents, undesirable ethnicities, journalists, etc.

ONE MILLION UIGHURS IN CHINESE PRISONS. The Chief of INTERPOL for chrissake was arrested and secretly detained for MONTHS without being charged. These are common daily occurrences in China.

Now of course there can be a "whattabout the baby cages" argument related to US (Trump admin) policies against non-citizens at the US border, and the US D.O.C. is by no means an example of a well-oiled bureaucracy.

But the distinction is clear - there are protections in our laws and in our systems that respect and evaluate the rights of individuals, even those accused of crimes, in our system they are sacrosanct until evidence proves otherwise.

There is no comparison between our system and the lawless ethno-state criminal cabal Kangaroo courts that comprise the Chinese "legal" system, or government generally. None.

China is a criminal cabal without even the ATTEMPT AT PRETENSE of being a good faith legally obligated nation that protects ANYONE'S rights, except maybe Han-bloodline Uber-drones exclusively by birthright.

China has no laws, it's autocracy. The sooner apologist morons realize this fact in plain sight staring them in the face, the fewer morons need to see the inside of a Chinese "court" or prison to understand the difference.

Re: PSA for Americans and others

[ShanghaiBill]

There are well over 1 million ethnic Uighurs being detained for no actual crime in China.

Most estimates are that there are less than a million detained in the Xinjiang camps.

America incarcerates over 2 million people, roughly four times as many as China per capita. Many are in pre-trial confinement, having been convicted of nothing. Many others are in prison based on plea bargains rather than evidence. America has one of the world's highest false conviction rates.

There is plenty to criticize about China's prison system. There is much more to criticize about America's.

The UN says 1 million is credible. You are not.

[Anonymous Coward]

Given that you lied about such things as blood plasma, I'll go with the UN. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-un/u-n-says-it-has-credible-reports-that-china-holds-million-uighurs-in-secret-camps-idUSKBN1KV1SU

U.N. has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs in secret camps

Re:Putting words in my mouth? Classy.

[ShanghaiBill]

Believe it or not you have guaranteed rights in China too.

True, but the rights are different. China's judiciary is not independent. A judge can be ordered by party leaders to find someone guilty. A prosecution like that of Bo Xilai would not happen in America.

It's just that like the US, in practice they are abused anyway.

Indeed.

America's system is better for rich people, powerful people, and guilty people.

China's system is better for innocent people.

In America, expensive lawyers can get you off, and you can exclude evidence on technicalities.

For innocent people, America is one of the worst countries. We have one of the world's highest false conviction rates, largely because of the plea bargain system and the high cost of an effective defense. The Innocence Project estimates that 20% of American prison inmates didn't commit the crimes.

Since America has 4 times China's per capital prison population, China would need an 80% false conviction rate for a Chinese citizen to be as likely as an American to be wrongly imprisoned.

The whole point of rights is to protect the innocent from oppression. By that measure, America's system is worse than China's.

Re:Putting words in my mouth? Classy.

[AmiMoJo]

The judiciary in the US isn't independent either. At the top you have the politically appointed Supreme Court, and further down judges and prosecutors are elected and thus subject to the influence of both voters and money.