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The Volvo Polestar 2 Is the First Google-Powered, All-Electric Car (theverge.com)

The Polestar 2 is the first all-electric car from Volvo, and the first car to feature Google's new native version of Android Auto. Billed as a competitor to Tesla's Model 3, "the Polestar 2 should be able to travel up to 275 miles (about 443 kilometers) on a single charge thanks to a 78kWh battery that makes up the entire floor of the car," reports The Verge. "It will be quick, too; Polestar says there's 300kW (about 408 horsepower) to play with, spread across dual electric motors. That all-wheel drive power should help the car get from 0 to 60 miles per hour in under 5 seconds." From the report: All this will eventually cost about 39,900 euros, or about $45,000, at the cheapest. Polestar will sell versions of the car that cost as much as 59,900 euros, or about $68,000. But none of that will happen until the second year of production. The version available when the car launches later this year will cost $63,000, and Polestar will make only that "launch edition" car for the first 12 months. Pre-orders are open now, and production begins next year in China (where Volvo's Chinese parent company Geely is headquartered). Polestar's launching the car with in an ambitious slate of markets, too: China, the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, and Belgium.
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[T]he Polestar 2's interior looks more fully developed and coherent than the one in the Polestar 1, to my eyes at least. The centerpiece is an 11-inch portrait oriented touchscreen where the company's Android-based infotainment system lives. Car companies have built infotainment systems on Android in the past, but they essentially had to fork the open source operating system and build their own solution on top. What's more, Google wasn't involved in those efforts. This meant the cars would wind up with outdated versions of Google's operating system, which complicated upgrades and security. [...] A big benefit to this embedded approach is customers will have instant access to Android Auto-approved apps like Google Maps, or Play Music, or Google Assistant without needing to use their smartphones. Another is that it will have access to the car's functions, meaning it can control climate settings, or send you maintenance alerts. This native version of Android will also be updatable, meaning Polestar and Google can push over-the-air software updates to improve the car's functions long after it's sold.

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  1. This must be some other Android Auto... by magarity · · Score: 2

    ... than the one in my car, which just displays the map from my phone and plays some music.

  2. Tesla Model 3 competitor? by Local+ID10T · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Slower.

    More expensive.

    Made in China.

    pass....

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    1. Re:Tesla Model 3 competitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Tesla Model 3 is way more expensive than 39,900 euros and it is made in the only country with a lower reputation in car build quality than China. I would pick the Polestar, if I had to choose between the too.

    2. Re:Tesla Model 3 competitor? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most car makers choose to NOT solve this issue like Tesla does: building a proprietary charging network. Instead they choose to rely on standard CCS charging stations that are already spreading all over Europe. So far there aren't many CCS fast charging stations (at 175 - 350 kW) comparable to Tesla's chargers in Europe, but the number is growing: over here there's already almost as many of them as there are Tesla chargers.

      The future is clearly a fast charging network relying on 1 or 2 standards, supporting - and open to - all auto brands. The Tesla stations over here are already fitted with CCS leads but are not available to non-Tesla drivers. This is an issue that will solve itself; Tesla is considering opening up those stations to other brands, and in some countries they may be forced to by law when operating in public areas, especially on highways. BWM would never get the permits to build gas stations exclusively for BWM drivers, and while Tesla was considered to be a special case being a pioneer with proprietary charging tech, that privilege will end at some point.

      Tesla clearly led the charge and built the new infrastructure needed for their cars from scratch, an admirable effort. But it is beyond silly at this stage to expect other auto makers to do the same.

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    3. Re:Tesla Model 3 competitor? by mattcasters · · Score: 2

      Why is it "beyond silly"? Are governments expected to pay for the infrastructure? Should we expect oil companies to pay for it? Perhaps classic car makers who have a vested interest in slow EV adoption so they can take their time and try to save their crumbling empires?

      No, the fact of the matter is that indeed other car manufacturers ARE investing in Ionity and other charging networks albeit at an extremely slow pace. Despite the fact that Tesla already has a large network across Europe, they're still expanding faster than any competitor. It's all marketing fluff and Tesla is pretty much the only game in town for high speed charging while traveling across the continent.

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    4. Re:Tesla Model 3 competitor? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uh, did you miss the part about where it'll be made in China, by the new owner of Volvo? That instantly nullifies pretty much everything you are so hot about there. Maybe you've already forgotten what happened to Saab when they got a new owner?

      Uh... Volvo hasn't been an independent company in decades and Geely aren't new; they've owned Volvo since 2010.

      And Saab were bought by GM who mismanaged the entire lineup. Instead of allowing Saab to continue to engineer and innovate their platforms they strongarmed Saab into using GM's own platforms. Then when that didn't work they tried OEMing a Subaru. Truth is Saab was dead before GM ever entered the picture; the GM purchase was ostensibly to save the already ailing manufacturer. And I write all this as an ex Saab owner and lover... they had good cars but shit marketing and after the GM buy the cars just took a nosedive in quality.

  3. This needs over ten years of Android updates by ITRambo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without ten years or more of Android updates this is a complete waste of time. Unless it can be flashed to a different, newer system, the resale value will be low. I can see buying a car that I'll send to e-waste in three years.

  4. Re:Geely by rtb61 · · Score: 2

    Volvo cars is a Chinese company (you are who you are owned by when it comes to corporations), so it is hardly surprising it is made in China. What that Chinese company is of course doing is trading on the European Brand of Volvo to pump up the profit margins, so likely to be well overly brand monetised and under performing. Nothing to do with China, just the way modern corporations and their marketing agencies work, bullshit and profits first and everything else optional even adhering to the law if the penalties are less than the profits because the executives who do it suffer NO penalties.

    I personally think, they will come a cropper, playing European car when it is actually a Chinese car, the internet is becoming very unforgiving of corporate bullshit. Better to have gone with Volvo China but then why buy a dying brand.

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  5. Re:Geely by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Renault Zoe is around €26,000 ex VAT, with a range of 300+ km. The Hyundai Ioniq is around the same price with slightly less range. There are plenty of EV's for a lot less money, but with considerably less range.

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  6. So we're powering cars with search engines now? by istartedi · · Score: 3, Funny

    I liked it better when my horse was powered by Apache.

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  7. Re:A tracking device that has wheels by Jeremi · · Score: 2

    Google know where you go anyway, your cell phone tell it.

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  8. I want less Google by Kagetsuki · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've gotten Google as much out of my life as I possibly can. No way I'm going to buy a car that's literally integrated with Google as a "feature".

  9. Re:Geely by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    It was designed and developed by Volvo in Europe. It's like an iPhone - it may be made in China but most people would say it's a western product, with Volvo quality and support networks.

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  10. Re:Eventually by dcw3 · · Score: 2
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