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Tech Critics Create Powerful Video Responding To IBM's 'Dear Tech' Ad (slate.com)

"Technology hasn't fallen short of its promise. Tech companies have," argues Evan Selinger, a philosophy professor at Rochester Institute of Technology, reporting on a new "collaborative video response to IBM's Dear Tech Ad" (which was aired during last week's telecast of the Oscar's). Earlier Selinger wrote: [IBM's] infantilizing ad depicts technology as if it were an autonomous person, a benevolent Santa Claus figure that can give great products to all the good little girls and boys if they ask politely.... It all sounds nice. But the message obscures the fact that technology hasn't fallen short of its promise. It's recalcitrant tech companies that need to change. That includes IBM....

IBM isn't alone in this sunny disingenuousness. Its competitors also give lip service to listening to our hopes and dreams while shutting down criticism that's voiced to make things better... A commercial like this one can't avoid being an empty marketing pitch when it represents a contested concept as a clear and unambiguous wish that technology can magically grant just as easily as Santa can satisfy a request for a new smartphone.

So a team of tech critics including Joy Buolamwini of the MIT Media Lab "created an alternative to IBM's ad. It's a provocative, line-by-line, video counterstatement" -- not "Dear Tech," but "Dear Tech Company."

Here are some of its more provocative quotes:

"We have a pretty complicated relationship."

"Your track record is mixed."

"Really mixed."

"And you have the potential to do immense harm."

"Are you only benefiting a few?"

"While many more suffer?"

The new counter-ad urges its viewers to demand more accountability from tech companies. (Sasha Costanza-Chock, an associate professor of civic media at MIT, even argues for companies "that treat people as more than data subjects for surveillance capitalism.") In a follow-up article, Selinger writes:

The most dangerous message promoted by the Dear Tech commercial is that socially responsible technology will be on its way simply because people are asking for it. This way of characterizing change suggests tech companies aren't incentivized to promote outcomes that are more self-serving than giving the public what it deserves.

The new video says, "Let's make time to understand the impact of technology on people's lives." It's a powerful message. Too bad this ad doesn't have an Oscars-sized budget behind it.

141 comments

  1. Neither ad makes any sense to me by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

    So an ad that doesn't make sense is countered by an ad that makes even less sense.

    1. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's to be expected. It has to do with your reduced cognitive abilities. But don't worry, we still love you.

    2. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The video style is strongly a leftist SJW drama piece with no sustenance. What cognition do you lack to realize this? the OP is right, and you're a faggot

    3. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The first link I followed from the rebuttal was to a book titled "Race After Technology: Abolitionist Tools for the New Jim Code".

      I'm not even sure I understand what that means, but I detect a distinct hint of woo-woo.

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    4. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "Jim Code" - Betcha that it's a crappy takeoff on the term Jim Crow. Probably another one of those lefty rants about technology destroying our souls, this time by bringing back racism somehow.

    5. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MIT ... mighty-infested-Trotsky-slut spew. Anti-white cause nibbers just can't cut-IT ... whiny ... bitchy ... emotocentric a fem-nazi scream of teen-queen frustration. Girls play with dolls, boys play with computers. Slap them down fans & fannies ... the lefty-prog gaffotized progesterone-laced parasites now spank-their azzwholes & slap them down hard.

    6. Re: Neither ad makes any sense to me by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 1

      This is what can happen when a friend's cry for help goes unanswered. Every year, thousands of developmentally challenged anonymous cowards post comments such as this one on our message boards. Each one of these a tiny plea for someone to drag them out of their vanishingly small world of Faux News and The Daily Stormer and into a world full of possibilities.
      Please, when you see one of these, try and get them connected with someone who can help.
      Together, we can help these people live full, happy, productive lives free of the need to dehumanize and mock others simply to defend their warped world view.

      Please, won't you think of the cowards? They're counting on you because obviously they can't count on themselves.

      This message brought to you by the StopTheShithead Foundation and your local freethinker. Remember, a waste is a terrible thing to mind.
      Thank you.

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    7. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by loonycyborg · · Score: 1

      Garbage in, garbage out.

    8. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by nukenerd · · Score: 1

      I understood perfectly what both the videos were trying to say - bullshit in two slightly different flavours.

      Makes me laugh to see a white man in a comfortable position complaining about white men in comfortable positions.

    9. Re:Neither ad makes any sense to me by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      it made sense to me. i question the system that gives a 5 minute solution. and fear A.I. by the very folks that profit from it to be very revealing.

    10. Re: Neither ad makes any sense to me by DethLok · · Score: 1

      I prefer to just mod them DOWN.

      There is more than enough help for them out there in the real world, or on the internet if that's their preference, for them to develop, mature and grow.

      If they choose not to grow, that's their choice.

    11. Re: Neither ad makes any sense to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems like a bot post to me.

  2. Oscars sized budget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your final statement is the most poignant. Audience size is also what makes social media giants a great propaganda tool. The wisdom of the herd is still vulnerable to someone starting a stampede.

  3. Continuation of Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The previous century was about Thinking. This century is about Doing. Are we done yet? Have we been done yet? All I know that I haven't been done enough.

    1. Re:Continuation of Thinking by gweihir · · Score: 2

      You almost got that right. The previous century was about pretending to think, were you camouflage dangerous emotions like racism, sexism, greed, etc. as the result rational thought. The same is now applied to "doing".

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    2. Re:Continuation of Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was referring to the IBM Think slogans from days gone.

    3. Re:Continuation of Thinking by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Ah, of course.

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    4. Re: Continuation of Thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh huh, just like Galileo signed when he made his observations?

  4. Won't somebody think of the salespeople's needs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The greater good is never in the calculus when tech companies and their sales teams go on a push for new product sales. The simple fact that almost everything can become weaponized for instance, is completely foriegn to them, even as they themselves have participated in doing it.

    As long as it helps the good guys and harms the bad guys, they think it justifiable to do. They don't get that they can be the bad guys to begin with. And it is shocking to see them willingly deny it could even be a remote possibility. Shocking because, for most of the real world, it's a degree of sheltered naivety most grow out of by age six. People can be bad and do bad things. Does your product/idea help them just as much as everyone else? ffs

  5. Re: Corporations are People Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Bernie Sandera 2020

  6. they should sell more databases to nazis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    IBM shouldn't lecture anyone

  7. Provocative quotes by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

    "that treat people as more than data subjects for surveillance capitalism."

    Considering the source of the original advertisement, *that* quote didn't make the list?

  8. What this is about what you believe by mrwireless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A. Technology is the dominant force that 'impacts' society, and society has to respond to it. The printing press created a new type of society. In philosophy this is called the "technological determinist" perspective.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    B. Social forces are the dominant force in society, and the technologies we invent and embrace (or reject) are an expression of these. For example, even though video calling was the more advanced technology, people preferred SMS instead. This is called the Social Constructivist perspective.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    These are extremes on an axis.

    In Silicon Valley technological determinism is rampant. It's the simpler of the two stories, the more attractive one. If technology is the dominant influencer, then there's no need to understand the complexities and ethics of the situations you're 'disrupting'. Narratives around blockchain/VR/singularity/etc also happily align with the "new tech is inevitable" part, because it implies any attempt to regulate it is wasted effort.

    1. Re:What this is about what you believe by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      I'm going with number [sic] C:

      C: Society influences technology influences society ...

      You know, sort of an active ecosystem, a circle of life kind of thing.

    2. Re: What this is about what you believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the Silicon of strife,
      And it moves us all

    3. Re: What this is about what you believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are confusing people. Stop it. :))

    4. Re:What this is about what you believe by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

      Society influences technology influences society ...

      Exactly. Just take transportation as an example. As our society moved from the horse to the railroad and then to the automobile, our whole style of living, and at the same time numerous other technologies that these enabled, changed in the most basic ways.

    5. Re:What this is about what you believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The demand creates the market. The problem is that it's too easy to create the demand, where none is needed, or wanted. The buyers are the foot soldiers. It is they that must learn to turn their backs. Technology is only a chapter, it's not the story. It is a socket wrench (new and improved! computerized!), not the engine.

    6. Re:What this is about what you believe by denzacar · · Score: 1

      I'd add that D: Fishing in the middle of Sahara is almost as hard as building sand castles on the North Pole... regardless of the society one may be coming from.

      Also, E: Time has to be right.

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    7. Re:What this is about what you believe by jenningsthecat · · Score: 2

      In Silicon Valley technological determinism is rampant. It's the simpler of the two stories, the more attractive one.

      Calling it the 'more simplistic of the two stories' might be more accurate. But I think its attractiveness has more to do with its implied confirmation of the power and rightness that people in Big Tech tend to feel - there's an air of Manifest Destiny about their whole attitude.

      If technology is the dominant influencer, then there's no need to understand the complexities and ethics of the situations you're 'disrupting'.

      If technology is the dominant influencer, then you think you already understand the complexities and ethics of the situations you're 'disrupting'. There is a HUGE amount of know-it-all hubris in Big Tech, especially in the higher echelons.

      Narratives around blockchain/VR/singularity/etc also happily align with the "new tech is inevitable" part, because it implies any attempt to regulate it is wasted effort.

      I totally agree. For me it's yet another example of the Manifest Destiny attitude.

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    8. Re:What this is about what you believe by eddeye · · Score: 1

      Wow. What an incredibly insightful and well constructed post. You added tremendous value to the discussion with that explanation. Thank you so much for sharing that with us.

      I just have to ask... what website did you think you were on? Slashdot hasn't seen this level of discussion in years.

      I'm sorry you wandered into this dump. I'll show you the way out if you promise to take me with you. Please.

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    9. Re:What this is about what you believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? I can't understand you with his dick shoved so far down your throat

    10. Re:What this is about what you believe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ladies and gentleman, the prosecution rests!

  9. Savvy vs immersed by Dracos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Millennials are often labelled "tech-savvy", which they aren't: they don't know how it works any more than the gen-Xers who were called the same just because we could set a VCR clock.

    They're tech immersed, and their ignorance of how the tech companies exploit them means they're drowning in it, and no more than any previous generation know how to swim. They're dragging their elders down in it because they have no ability to warn against social media, home assistants, or smart TVs.

    1. Re:Savvy vs immersed by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      There was a time when you could not drive a car without knowing how a car works. You needed to understand how to adjust fuel mix ratio with the choke, and keep an eye on engine RPM to avoid stalling, and carry out the routine maintenance of inspecting the spark plugs, topping up the battery and changing the oil.

      Then cars got better. The mechanics became self-governing. The maintenance was still needed, but with less frequency. Now few drivers have any idea how their cars actually work - and for the most part, this is a good thing. The car becomes a tool by which the driver may achieve their desired goal. The cost is that, if anything does break down, the driver is quite helpless to do anything about it.

      That's what happened to computers. The users no longer need to know anything at all about how the computer actually works - they can go about their work ignorant of even the most basic ideas. When something goes wrong though, they need to call upon someone skilled enough to help.

    2. Re:Savvy vs immersed by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. They do not fear tech and many of them are under the illusion that because they can use tech, they understand it. In actual reality, they are just as clueless to the inner workings of tech and, in particular, how it can be abused, as previous generations.

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    3. Re:Savvy vs immersed by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Regarding the "know how the cars work" part... some of that is in fact due to technology.

      With $300 in tools from walmart and $50 worth of books, you can completely take care of a VW bug or bus (or Porsche 356, 912, or 914), including rebuilding the engine and transmission. With computerized timing, fuel injection, etc. you simply can't do that anymore.

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    4. Re:Savvy vs immersed by ArchieBunker · · Score: 0

      Regarding the "know how the cars work" part... some of that is in fact due to technology.

      With $300 in tools from walmart and $50 worth of books, you can completely take care of a VW bug or bus (or Porsche 356, 912, or 914), including rebuilding the engine and transmission. With computerized timing, fuel injection, etc. you simply can't do that anymore.

      100% bullshit. Those same tools work on a brand new Porsche. Cars are still mechanical devices with bolt on replaceable parts. What are you even smoking? Other than being able to read codes and do further troubleshooting the transmission still does the same job as the one in your bug. Brakes, timing belts, sensors, all replaceable on modern cars.

      Modern cars are much easier to work on. I don't have to worry about vacuum pressures, carburetor jets, finding timing marks with a strobe light or dirty points.

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    5. Re: Savvy vs immersed by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 2

      Yep.
      You just have to worry about that $400 custom made socket to get that "simple bolt on part" off in one piece. Someone hasn't been paying attention in the last few years it looks like.

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      Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
    6. Re: Savvy vs immersed by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      One point of comparison is that with an old Beetle you will be out there doing that stuff with the tools regularly, since it requires constant maintenance and adjustment to keep it going.

    7. Re:Savvy vs immersed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can still do that, and it's even cheaper. All the programming skills needed to understand the underlying code can be found freely online (as well as how to dump and disassemble the code). What has changed is the time it takes to learn such skills, which is to be expected since things are more complex.

    8. Re:Savvy vs immersed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you think either

      1) Car repairability has gone up
      2) Repairability is a binary term, "still theoretically repairable" is all that matters

      The second will get you laughed at. It's a spectrum.

      The first will get a lot of Disagree, from people who watched the industry compromise that factor in pursuit of cost, space, and in the scummiest cases, end-user lockout.

      I used the word "car" once, but it swaps easily with phones, computers, etc.

    9. Re: Savvy vs immersed by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Link for this $400 socket?

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    10. Re:Savvy vs immersed by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      I admit some cars need special sockets or tools now but they aren't expensive. I bought a special socket for the oil filter on my 2007 Mercedes, it was $20. The most expensive special tool I should have bought was a cam lock device for Volvos with variable valve timing. It was around $100. In the end I fabricated my own and learned some welding and other skills.

      People here wouldn't think twice about jailbreaking a phone but taking apart their car to see how it can be repaired is unheard of?

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    11. Re: Savvy vs immersed by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Yep. You just have to worry about that $400 custom made socket to get that "simple bolt on part" off in one piece.

      Bullshit. I regularly turn on my angle-grinder and welder to make these "custom tools", such as the clamps to keep the camshafts aligned while changing timing belts. It never costs more than a few dollars.

      Just last weekend I ground down a $2 short socket extension to make an 8mm square key for the sump nut of a Renault (No, I don't know why they decided to use square keys and not hex keys).

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    12. Re:Savvy vs immersed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I admit some cars need special sockets or tools now but they aren't expensive.

      Are you serious?

      Want to make a new key for your 1970's BMW? A dollar for a blank and a file.

      Want to make a new key for your 2019 BMW? $2,000 transcoder, $200 key fob, and a $1,500 a year license for codes.

    13. Re:Savvy vs immersed by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      What does this have to do with repairs? The terrible argument you're trying to make sounds like a great business opportunity. Make BMW keys cheaper than the dealers.

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      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  10. Get your adct together by Krishnoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    With all the surveillance you're capable of, can you work on either getting this stuff right, or staying away from it entirely?

  11. They telecasted what? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    According to the summary they telecasted something that belongs to Oscar, but they didn't say what it was.

    Note that the actual article - probably because it was written by an actual journalist - got it right. MsManisH1B did the needful and "corrected" it.

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  12. How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I saw it, and I don't think it says anything at all. Corporations should not be begged to behave, they should be forced to behave by law.

    This is what a "free market" is - a market regulated so that all players have equal power. Economics 101, Adam Smith, etc.

    1. Re:How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corporations should not be begged to behave, they should be forced to behave by law.

      Well, that will all depend on reducing present day reelection rates of their servants in congress and the white house, unless we're all expecting some mystical force to descend upon them.

    2. Re: How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 1

      Free. Markets. Are. A. Myth.

      Why oh why is this so terribly difficult to understand? A corporation exists for a singular purpose: make money. That's it. There's no thought to ramifications (unless it directly interferes with me making money) or social costs (again, unless it prevents me from making money).

      Or have you missed the century plus history of children in coal mines, slave labor, Union busting, and shit like Union Carbide?
      To me, corporations are like fire. Great when they're performing something useful like cooking your food or keeping you warm...but fucking terrifying when it burns a city to the ground with zero consequence.

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    3. Re: How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 1

      WOOSH

    4. Re: How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free markets are like a frictionless plane. Useful for explaining theory, no real world application.

    5. Re: How powerful is the video, and in what units? by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 1

      These would be the perfectly competitive markets. There is no "free market" in economic theory, the phrase is just a political gimmick.

  13. EditorDavid falling short of the promise. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fails to actually edit. Again.

  14. OK, I guess I'll go by WolfgangVL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear pretentious internet children.......

    Let's try to remember how much smaller the world felt 30 years ago.
    Let's consider the always listening surveillance devices we put in our homes.
    Let's point out the hundreds of options we have for things that did not even exists a decade ago.
    Let's look real close at the way we behave behind the anonymity tech provides.
    Let's try to count the hours lost to on-screen entertainment.
    Let's consider the way we've all unthinkingly fell in line with social media's personal data appetite.
    Let's remember that the reason our personal information is constantly lost is because we gave it away to begin with.
    Let's try and remember..... anything without consulting the supercomputer in our pocket.

    Dear pretentious internet children.... enjoy your free long distance, your standard in-car navigation, and your ultra efficient smart cars. Keep on buying anything you can imagine with standard two day shipping- without leaving your bedroom. Join an inviting community covering any subject that strikes your fancy, and keep using the ad-supported step-by-step video instructions on how to do anything you can think of. Go ahead and apply for hundreds of jobs in your area, even while sitting in your underwear at 2AM, after a rousing deathmatch with all of your closest *friends*

    You're welcome to all of it (as long as your parents keep paying the power bill)

    Your pal,

    Tech.

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    1. Re: OK, I guess I'll go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. Excellent reply. Thank you.

    2. Re:OK, I guess I'll go by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Now I am hearing Iggy Pop's "Lust For Life". Thank you very much.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:OK, I guess I'll go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear @WolfgangVL

      a) I work a decent gig in "tech" .
      b) All those benefits you describe go the very few and all of the people who make them. Of course they like it, it's by them for them.

    4. Re:OK, I guess I'll go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or they can choose something else. Trains, where are thou?

    5. Re: OK, I guess I'll go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? I know poor people who own an iPhone and watch Netflix? What r u on about?

    6. Re:OK, I guess I'll go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! You tell em! I've been standing in line for this phonebooth all day, trying to get a job. All of those rich guys at the library are just dicking off on the internet.

  15. Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by demon+driver · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What IBM is trying to do is bullshitting people into thinking that tech is inherently good, and tech companies are good, too, and people just have to buy stuff from them and do good work for them and everything will be good in the end.

    What the responding video suggests instead is that tech companies are a problem, that they're not always good, that it's not enough to trust them, that we need to ensure that tech companies really become good so that tech will turn out good for all of us.

    What even the people behind the responding video don't see, perhaps don't even want to see, is that it's not some individual badness, some individual evil, that sometimes creeps into some of the tech companies, making them act against people's and mankind's interest some of the time. The makers of the responding video neither see nor acknowledge that it's not just a few bad people and a few bad companies, but profit as the core principle of the world's operating system, that necessarily drives companies and decision makers in companies to do what they do. The video makers completely fail to understand that humankind's progress or people's wellbeing are not the business objective of any tech company or of any company whatsoever.

    Within the parameters of the world's operating system, for a company, the only business objective there is and ever was is profit, and that, by tendency, works against the interests of humankind and this planet. The intention behind IBM's video is to make them as a company look good, while they're actually complicit in destroying the planet and producing and conserving disparity in wellbeing both geographically and between classes. The responding video, on the other hand, tries to address tech companies instead of the way the world is geared, the way we as humankind allow economy to be run and organized, and by what control variables we allow it to be driven.

    1. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Are you nuts or something?

      Companies produce goods and services that people want. So they serve a human need, on some level. It was the ingenuity of individual entrepreneurs and companies of this world that brought us from the middle ages to today's modern living standards, right across the globe. There are fewer people living in poverty than ever before (at least as a percentage of the population), and never in human history have so many enjoyed relative wealth, hygene and safe foods. The key driver of course is the availability of instant energy almost anywhere on the planet.

    2. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Companies exist to make profit. Serving a human need is often a means to that end. This indirect noble goal has brought us quite far since the dark ages.

      It has also placed a premium on folks willing to learn and make it happen. The fruits of their labor is the incentive that drives them to compete with focused skill and initiative.

      An interesting thing in IBM's cognitive world vision is that it may be the next step in eliminating this premium. The current societal model did a great job of lifting us from the dark ages. If this technology removes the main incentive underpinning the model, how must society evolve?

      One of the promises of this technology is individualized education, where the 'teacher' interacts with the student to provide an optimized result. I would ask how scalable this technology is? Will it make economic sense to provide this optimized experience to all?

    3. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      It's really glaring when people write these things and totally fail to acknowledge the stunning success story that is the profit motive. The world is better today then ever in history and it's all due to the profit motive. I do however see a clear desire to control, an authoritarian impulse that wants to deny. They tried the economy your way and it was a gargantuan failure.

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    4. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      And yet, the un-abridged capital-driven world is also the most corrupt, so much so it makes Soviet Russia look like toddlers play.
      Check and mate.
      The immense about of corruption, cronyism and general scummery that goes on in the west is embarrassing.
      Funnier yet are the ones so viciously against anything else because the capital-driven companies have invested so much in making these people HATE any other way with a passion.
      Just look at the reactions you get when you mention communism in America, holy shit it's funny.
      American Dad's Stan is a classic example of that stereotype that still persists today, the hyper-Capitalist types are some of the funniest people around.

      Don't confuse me for someone that thinks Communism is good btw, I don't think Capitalism, Socialism OR Communism are good. The only good economies on this planet are mixes of these models, and specifically some of the systems used in Nordic countries mainly, and previously the UK before it got ruined by American influence from the 80-90s on.
      These countries barely sneezed during the global recession in '08.
      They're also usually the happiest countries in general.
      This confuses the American, "but their taxes are insane!!!!!". Makes me laugh. They literally cannot comprehend models that aren't theirs because they've had it driven in to them to hate anything else for decades.
      There's many millions of people who have everything to lose if anyone questions it.
      They are pushing this influence more and more in to other countries with much greater force now than ever because of it's undying thirst to grow to infinity.
      They are taking advantage of Brexit just now, having anonymously donated considerable sums to trick people in to voting Leave, and still pushing piece after piece on sites and newspapers about how "evil" Europe have been taking advantage of Britain for years.
      Don't suck the dick of a model that hasn't got your interests in mind. It will happily throw you under the bus for profit.
      Unless you yourself are on the top, all 3 models are scummy and against your interests.

    5. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's really glaring when people write these things and totally fail to acknowledge the stunning success story that is the profit motive.

      The service contract for the Third Reich's concentration camp management computers was paid directly to Armonk, NY. What was that about profit motive again?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world is better today then ever in history and it's all due to the profit motive.

      You could not be more wrong.

      The world is better today not because the profit motive was let to reign, but because the profit motive was tamed , so that it became a constructive force or, rather, less of a destructive one. The history of the dominance of the profit motive is a history of misery, suffering and violence, from the colonization, the slave trade and the opium wars, through the misery of the robber baron capitalism, and to the misery that modern day financial crises, caused by lack of regulation, bring about.

      The world began to transform to the better place we know today since the mid-19th century because societies slowly democratized, became more egalitarian and absorbed the good ideas of Marxism and socialism. It is beyond obvious today that a modern society will not function well without the policies of democratic socialism. Healthcare, social security, education and public investment in science are the cornerstones of modern success.

      Denying the role of social development in the improvement of "the world" means you're ignorant of your own history.

    7. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neat. I like that comment.
      If, by "concentration camp management", you meant artillery firing tables and bomb drop compensation tables used by the US Army and Navy to crush the Third Reich and liberate the concentration camps, you'd be 100% correct.

    8. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world may be better for you but to claim that the "world is better today than ever in history" is pure arrogance. You can pick some figure, like income, and say that a higher income equals a better life but that doesn't tell the whole story. Save the "Greed is good" bullshit for other people in your bubble that work hard to rationalize away their guilt.

    9. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Nah, seeking profit is cool. Seeking advantage is not.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    10. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Seriously? Argumentum ad hitlerum? You're really going with that logical fallacy instead of an argument?

      Things are better today than they've ever been in this history of the human race. The people who have benefited most are the desperately poor. This is a fact; see Stephen Pinker.

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    11. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you and the magic tale you repeated are so cute but please grow up

    12. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, serving a need is the first and foremost purpose of a company, profits come as a result of that.

    13. Re:Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DNS-and-BIND:

      Mustaches don't exist.

      Drinkypoo:

      Lots of people have mustaches. Hitler had one.

      DNS-and-BIND:

      [Labels all counterexamples logical fallacies, blows a gasket, and doubles down with another absurd assertion.]

      Lay off the vodka Bindski.

    14. Re: Fighting Bullshit With Ignorance by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If, by "concentration camp management", you meant artillery firing tables and bomb drop compensation tables used by the US Army and Navy to crush the Third Reich and liberate the concentration camps, you'd be 100% correct.

      They played both sides, just like the USA in general. We knew about fuel sales to the Third Reich and didn't stop it until late in the war, then seized the assets. But the Bush family fortune was founded upon Prescott Bush operating a company whose purpose was to funnel funding to Hitler too, and they even seized a bunch of the profits... but left him a cool million, which at the time was a lot of money.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  16. IBM runs ad about tech. Libtards go nuts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The libtards responded with a rant about how bad tech companies behave, alledgedly. Who btw keep making it possible for anyone to create and publish such a video at virtually zero cost. Did they thank them? Did they use a paid service that does not rely on ads? No, they act like little children wanting the cake and eating it too.

    Correlation to IBM's ad, good use of my time? Nope. Zero. Nilch. Nada.

    Besides the libtard's video is highly biased and full of anger -- against all tech companies and their employees. So it is the opposite of it's face value (tolerance and equality). No surprise there of course, typical fashist tactics.

    At least the IBM ad is an honest piece of PR - it aspires to people to use tech to improve human lives and it alludes to the company's vast reservoir of talent, brand reach & tech to do so. It's a for -profit corp, FCOL, so good for them.

    1. Re:IBM runs ad about tech. Libtards go nuts. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well said.

  17. Re: Corporations are People Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yeah i used to listen to sandera in high school
    pretty good band
    i was sad when dimebag died

  18. "Pale male boys club" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is just more leftist anti-white, anti-male rhetoric. They explicitly ask for jobs based on their skin color when they ask for solutions "led by people with lived experience of inequality" (because in modern leftism, it isn't the idea that matters, it is the skin color of the person hired to champion it).

    Boring and racebait, 1/10.

    1. Re:"Pale male boys club" by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This form of "anti racism" is just as racist as what they pretend to fight. The only way to not be racist is to ignore race. Note to IBM: Racism does not get any less despicable when you change who you target.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    2. Re:"Pale male boys club" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This form of "anti racism" is just as racist as what they pretend to fight. The only way to not be racist is to ignore race. Note to IBM: Racism does not get any less despicable when you change who you target.

      A good note to everyone regarding the present practice of racism. The white supremacists are an easy and obvious target. Yup, racist as all hell.

      But the far left actor/actress spouting off about how much they hate "white dudes" is no different. Evergreen University students demanding a "No Whites day" and demanding a professor who refused to participate in it be fired.

      These students should certainly be able to protest. They make a fundamental mistake however. By engaging in activities that are themselves clearly race based, they show their similarity to the white people they hate. They give the egregious white supremacists an excellent tool of rebuttal. No difference - White supremacists hate "people of color", and these far left "anti white" people are just two sides of the same coin.

      And people in the middle like me who believe that if a person makes judgments about others based on the amount of melanin in their skin and it's supposed relationship to the artificial concept known as race , they are racist. Any other interpretation is simply exposing one's racist tendencies.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    3. Re:"Pale male boys club" by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Formalize it, put the skin color in as variable and it becomes immediately obvious. It is the approach that is wrong, regardless of who applies it to whom.

      This is, of course, far from obvious to the "us vs. them" crowd, where "us" is always the virtuous ones (and often the victims) and "them" is always the bad guys. I can seem the attraction of that stance though: No need to reflect, no need to change anything on your side, no need to actually understand anything and you are always on the righteous side. That this works exactly the same for the other side is something these people just are not equipped to understand.

      This is the one place where I actually discriminate: I think stupid people like these should not be allowed to direct where a society is going.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    4. Re:"Pale male boys club" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Formalize it, put the skin color in as variable and it becomes immediately obvious. It is the approach that is wrong, regardless of who applies it to whom.

      This is, of course, far from obvious to the "us vs. them" crowd, where "us" is always the virtuous ones (and often the victims) and "them" is always the bad guys.

      In fact, I find the far left and far right to be almost identical. The Far right went crazy when the US had the audacity to elect the Kenyan Terror baby as president, and blew their collective gasket when horror of horrors, he was re-elected.

      Now the far left has simply repeated the insanity. Let us hope that cooler heads will prevail.

      I can seem the attraction of that stance though: No need to reflect, no need to change anything on your side, no need to actually understand anything and you are always on the righteous side.

      Exactly. I am always confounded over people who are so unable to form their own thought parroting one party line or another.

      This is the one place where I actually discriminate: I think stupid people like these should not be allowed to direct where a society is going.

      I have zero problem with that idea. I think that critical thinking should be taught (as far as that is possible) and civics must be re-introduced into school curriculums. At least then we can get a good idea of which people are capable of thinking.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    5. Re: "Pale male boys club" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are not fooling anyone, you are not in the "middle" between anti-black and anti-white mobs, you're just an asshole trying to spread division through manufactured narratives.

    6. Re: "Pale male boys club" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not going to say that people offended by "anti racism" are racist, but god damn are you insecure if it bothers you.

    7. Re: "Pale male boys club" by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      You are not fooling anyone, you are not in the "middle" between anti-black and anti-white mobs, you're just an asshole trying to spread division through manufactured narratives.

      Finally, we found out who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp? Who put the ram in the rama lama ding dong?

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    8. Re:"Pale male boys club" by DethLok · · Score: 1

      " I think stupid people like these should not be allowed to direct where a society is going."
      So...
      No voting in federal elections for people who disagree with you?

    9. Re:"Pale male boys club" by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Your statement puts you straight in the manipulative dishonest crowd. That is not what I said or implied.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    10. Re: "Pale male boys club" by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Come on, you want to be a troll? Pathetic! You can do better than that! Try again.

      --
      Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    11. Re:"Pale male boys club" by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I re-read your comment and what you commented on.

      I think I see your point, I may have misunderstood you.

      So, how do stupid people, then, direct where a society is going?

  19. The "Oscar's"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "Oscar's" what? Did you mean the " Oscars' " ?

  20. I Feel... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I feel significantly more stupid for watching those two videos.

    Talk about infantile!

    'I know you are, but what am I?'

  21. Tech has not failed us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not tech that failed us, it's the milking of old tech to the last penny, before better tech is made reasonably available. We have so much tech around us, but it's not used even nearly to the fullest.

  22. Also Left Out by Kunedog · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Straight from the vid:

    Let's remind the pale male boy's club that past and current actions exclude capable yet marginalized individuals from STEM

    That was left out of TFS, probably to (temporarily) hide how fundamentally racist and sexist this "collaboration" is.

    1. Re:Also Left Out by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      I find the "pale male boy's club" comment rather funny. I work in Silicon Valley, and had three meetings last week. In all three, I was the only white guy in the room. SV is one of the brownest places in America.

    2. Re: Also Left Out by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 0

      None of them were executive level meetings, though.

    3. Re: Also Left Out by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      None of them were executive level meetings, though.

      Of the "big five" (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft) only two are run by heterosexual white men.

      Of the two white guys, one is Jewish and married to an Asian, and the other had a Hispanic father.

    4. Re:Also Left Out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find the "pale male boy's club" comment rather funny. I work in Silicon Valley, and had three meetings last week. In all three, I was the only white guy in the room. SV is one of the brownest places in America.

      The decline of the Whites has finally commenced !

      Do the Whites still think they can continue to rule the world??

  23. You Lack the Right Programming by Kunedog · · Score: 0

    What are you talking about; did you not hear the dog whistles? If you respond to "pale man bad" with anything but an approving nod or raucous applause, then problem is clearly with you.

    1. Re:You Lack the Right Programming by zugmeister · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Any video that champions inclusivity for all while almost completely excluding half the human population (they had one man who they needed to spew the anti white man line) is a prime example of SJW crap not worth your time or consideration.

  24. Unfortunately the rebuttal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is a distinction without a difference.

  25. IBM isnâ(TM)t one to talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Iâ(TM)ll take IBM seriously when Weather Underground works quickly and reliably and maybe, just maybe, accurately. It has been nothing but a disaster under their ownership.

  26. Shifting the blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IBM's ad is just another attempt to shift blame away from companies and toward this evil thing called "tech". This have tried shifting the blame to engineers and scientists, but that didn't seem to work.

  27. What are you really saying, though? by davide+marney · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Within the parameters of the world's operating system, for a company, the only business objective there is and ever was is profit, and that, by tendency, works against the interests of humankind and this planet.

    I have no idea what you are really trying to say. Something profitable by definition simply means that which benefits. The objective of any commercial business is to engage in commerce that is profitable. The profitable part is the only reason anyone would ever have for spending their time and talent on it.

    This isn't about money, it's about return. If you're going to spend your time doing something, you want a good return on your efforts. If you need money to live on, and aren't independently wealty, then being commercially profitable is a requirement.

    And what's the alternative? To do unprofitable work? That's no improvement. Love it or hate it, but the test of the profitability of a good or service is also an excellent proxy for its worthiness. Do you not think Slashdot a worthy place for you to spend your off hours? It's a good thing it's profitable for the owners of Slashdot, then.

    --
    "We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
    1. Re: What are you really saying, though? by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 2

      Yeah profitable. All hail the glory of profit.
      I'm sure a great profit was made on the chemical weapons used in WW1. I'm sure awesome profit is being made by companies like Hallie Burton as we declare was across the planet. AT&T? Still pretty profitable. So is Facecrook. Then again...
      Murder is really profitable. So is theft and fraud. Those are VERY profitable.

      Funny how those seem to have laws against them because they DAMAGE SOCIETY'S ABILITY TO FUNCTION ON A LARGE SCALE huh?
      Kill one, you're a murderer. Kill thousands it was just a little accident.
      No, pretty sure this shit is going to change soon. Growth for the sake of growth is the mantra of the cancer cell, and with the same end result.

      --
      Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
    2. Re:What are you really saying, though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love it or hate it, but the test of the profitability of a good or service is also an excellent proxy for its worthiness.

      There are many competing theories of "worthiness" (value). Profit is not one. Like, of any school.

    3. Re:What are you really saying, though? by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I have no idea what you are really trying to say. Something profitable by definition simply means that which benefits.

      Well, yeah. We all know that. People are talking about the next step in the profit category: Is the transaction reasonable or fair for BOTH sides?

      I mean, it is VERY profitable for me to hit you over the head and take your money. I spend a few minutes finding a stick or piece of metal and end up with cash. Very profitable indeed... is that the model of how you want your businesses to operate in a society?

      --
      "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
  28. The MIT media lab commercial is awful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Embarrassingly bad. Stick to what you do well, folks. And when you are trying to do something outside of your area of expertise, then hire experts to help you.

    1. Re:The MIT media lab commercial is awful by zugmeister · · Score: 1

      This! At the very least get someone who understands how exposure works.

  29. Re:Corporations are People Too by gweihir · · Score: 0

    So what about sending them to prison? Most large one do deserve that...

    --
    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
  30. lol IBM pretending to be relevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol IBM pretending to be relevant to big 4 tech debate, you need to get the reports server online before US wakes rather than messing with these adverts guys, the client might send an angry mail to engagement manager!

  31. Not everything is about you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The response from the identity police basically tried to seize the narrative and make it about them.

    The original IBM ad was just an attempt to retake some ground from the surveillance capitalists. But it did focus on the right problems: Equal access, privacy, security, AI bias, and making environmental impact a core requirement for all future tech. These are all good things.

    But they are a little impersonal... the story is still about the machines... how we make them and how we use them.

    The identitarians don't like that because it's about everyone. They don't feel good unless the story is about them. For them only victims matter and they are the only victims.

    But the story isn't just about you and it shouldn't be just about you. The current trends in social tech and unregulated capitalism are rapidly creating a world in which no person's information is safe, there is no privacy, there is no accountability.... now multiply that by 10,000 as more and more of the social surveillance is performed by backroom AIs. No one, not even their creators will be able to explain why you didn't get a job or why you didn't get a loan or pass a background check.

    Simple fact. A loan or job or rental decision process (human or AI) should not have access to your gender. Or your race. Or in what zip code you were born. That's your information and you should have the right to withhold any data that is not germane to a service.

    The IBM ad was an attempt to convince the world that at least one tech company (themselves) understands the problem and intends to deploy their tech in ways that don't cause harm.

    It remains to be seen if they can keep that promise.

  32. Dear penis by MrKaos · · Score: 0

    This song I'm gonna share with you It's called a letter to my penis y'all

    Dear penis, I don't think I like you anymore
    You used to watch me shave, now all you do is stare at the floor
    Ohhhh dear penis, I don't like you anymore
    Used to be you and me, a paper towel and a dirty magazine
    That's all we needed to get by
    Now It seems things have changed, I think that you're the one to blame
    Dear penis I don't like you anymore

    He sings, dear Rodney, I don't think I like you anymore
    Cause when you get to drinkin', you put me places I've never been before
    Dear Rodney, I don't like you anymore
    Why cant we just get a grip on our man to hand relationship
    Come to terms truly how we feel
    If we put our heads together we could just stay home forever
    Dear penis, I think I like you after all
    Oh hey Rodney, while your shavin', shave my balls

    --
    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
    1. Re:Dear penis by MrKaos · · Score: 1

      wow - some moderators seem to have lost their sense of humor.

      --
      My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  33. yup by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    They allowed Google to do what they did, they allowed Facebook to do what they did, and I was like, "WHAT, REALLY?"

    Now the bird has flown the coop.

    --
    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
  34. Re:Corporations are People Too by Livius · · Score: 1

    What's a prison term for a corporation? How about fining them their *entire* profits for the previous period corresponding to the sentence. (You have to go into the past because if it's going forward they'll just cook the books.)

  35. Incentives or STFU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tech companies do exactly what they think will benefit them, nothing more and nothing less. This is how all people behave, tech companies included.

    They can't pay their investors with gratitude.

    If you want their behavior to change, you are going to have to do something other than say "please." You have to make it worth their while. You can't escape this reality.

    You can use legal regulation, you can vote with your wallet, and you can create competing businesses of your own.

    If you want the world to change, to those three things. But don't go around asking "please," that's naive.

    1. Re: Incentives or STFU by Archangel_Azazel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ah yes, the old "vote with yer wallet!" mantra. Seems to be working with Comcast, AT&T, et. cet. Yeah? They've collectively been in the fucking dustbin for satisfaction surveys almost my whole life.
      And yet, there they are, benefiting from concepts apparently unknown to you. Ever hear of "regulatory capture"? How about "buying the laws you want"?
      No?

      Then do some research and stop spewing happy thought bullshit.
      Regulation is sorely needed, ACTUAL regulation. Not this ball fondling lip service we have now.

      --
      Your mind is like a parachute. It works best when it's been opened.
    2. Re: Incentives or STFU by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the old "vote with yer wallet!" mantra. Seems to be working with Comcast, AT&T, et. cet. Yeah? They've collectively been in the fucking dustbin for satisfaction surveys almost my whole life.

      I agree with the main point of your post, but people HAVE been voting with their wallet here. Americans in general are not willing to pay for support. We choose our internet based on price, and maybe speed/bandwidth/coverage. Most people aren't willing to pay an extra dollar a month for good service, so lousy service is what we get.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  36. Re:Corporations are People Too by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    What's a prison term for a corporation?

    Burn their charter, take no prisoners, put their assets into public domain.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  37. IBM leading the way by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    In the 1940s IBM came up with a solution to Hitler's Dear Technology letter, "we need to identify, incarcerate and/or eliminate our undesirables". Then they automated the holocaust. Ah, technology, is there nothing it can't do?

    1. Re:IBM leading the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya know, Volkswagen and BMW built stuff in WWII that helped the Nazis as well. Most people got over it 50 years ago, perhaps you should take note of that.

    2. Re:IBM leading the way by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      yes making money on the backs of slaughtered jews and slavs worked out well for them.

      maybe Musk can adopt the business model?

  38. The creators of each video deserve each other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A giant corporation earnestly trying to prove it has a conscience, and a (small) pack of condescending brats trying to impose their own wokeness on everyone else.

    Can we let them collide into non-being?

  39. This video is way too inflammatory by bjdevil66 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This video was not moving. It was not powerful. If you think it was, you're part of the choir they were preaching to and not a part of the target audience it should've been aimed at: the people that don't care either way but need to be informed.

    They used angry, language that just pisses people off that may not share their ivory tower views. When I heard "pale male" I was immediately put off and annoyed. I stopped listening to their message, and started looking for critiques. They need to make solid points without using inflammatory language like that.

    The sound production quality was also way off. If you want to compete with a polished ad to satirize it, polish the sound at the same level of your target.

    And you don't try to reach "the middle" by putting a gay man that is so gay that he's wearing heavy makeup, jingling with his earrings, with a fancy headcovering. His entire, "F U societal norms," outfit screamed, "I need my ass kicked."

    Talk about tone deaf. They should've run this by average people and seen what they thought before trotting this out to the public.

    1. Re:This video is way too inflammatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agreed with everything except for this...

      And you don't try to reach "the middle" by putting a gay man that is so gay that he's wearing heavy makeup, jingling with his earrings, with a fancy headcovering. His entire, "F U societal norms," outfit screamed, "I need my ass kicked."

      Why do you feel the need to inflict violence on people that don't fit social norms?

    2. Re: This video is way too inflammatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because the OP doesn't practice what he preaches. Because it's OK for HIM to not like gay people. That's acceptable. If he hated a straight white male tho? Watch out, them snowflakes are out in full force screaming "mahhhh rights" all while trampling on everyone elses.

    3. Re: This video is way too inflammatory by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Apparently my mod points ran out today, otherwise I'd mod this up.

      MOD UP++!

      Sigh...

  40. Re:Corporations are People Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seriously think a Corporate Death Penalty is in order: destroy the charter, sell all assets, and turn the proceedings over to be used in government social programs. That does open up the possibility of a predatory government agency (or, more predatory as the case may be). But at least that will be one less problem.

    Once a couple of corporations are ended (and the stockholders get nothing out of it), corporate behaviour will improve.

  41. Brought to you by the Marxists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Capitalism makes
    Socialism takes

    1. Re:Brought to you by the Marxists by DethLok · · Score: 1

      Go live in Europe you twat, see what TAXATION is really meant to do.

      Hell, come to 'Straya, we are socialist, despite our "rah rah USA guvmint", that will be removed as soon as they call the long delayed election, once all the rats have deserted them.

  42. Wait, RIT has a college of liberal arts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF? Evan Selenger was Prof for depth of philosoph? RIT was IMO, the right blend of trade school with 5 year college. You know "learn to code." I'm a graduate of systems software CS college, and (besides the brutal winters) remember having to take a handful of these easy classes freshman year to meet state college requirements. Then the culling CS classes 2nd year where half of the class D, F, or W's.

    But the liberal arts "college" knew their place as an effective community College inside of RIT for kids who couldn't cut ME, EE, or CS.

    Please recent RIT grads, tell me RIT isn't getting "evergreened".

  43. DB2 - Open Source Software Standard? by emil · · Score: 1

    "I would like to make open source software the standard."

    IBM, may I suggest that you start with one of the DB2 codebases? DB2 UDB for UNIX and Windows seems particularly appropriate for this exercise.

    Such a move is unlikely to damage mainframe and AS/400 DB2 revenues.

  44. Fight Fight Fight by Elixon · · Score: 1

    Some social warriors complain that IBM didn't answer in 2-minute video all the important questions world is facing? What?

    It seems to me that group of intellectuals is making cheap PR by picking up on nonsense. Those "revolutionaries" always try to fight and destruct... because they are incapable of building and solving problems. Give them a chance to find solutions and they come up with gulags and secret police. :-D

    --
    Well, I've got to get back to work. When I stop rowing, the slave ship just goes in circles.
  45. What I see: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I saw in the file was scientist and philosophers preaching to us what we need to do with our lives. Come worship before the alter of technology. Even AI is supposed to determine if we are being bias toward others. This is what comes from a nation that worships government and science instead of God. Scientist, politicians, and philosophers would tell me that I am wrong in rejecting homosexuals. The Bible tells me that it is sin and an abomination in God's sight. I think that you scientist, politicians, technologist, and philosophers know what you can do with you worldly ideas.

  46. Video is bullshit. by PJ6 · · Score: 1

    It naïvely asks for moral behavior from a system that is incapable of it.