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Elizabeth Warren Calls To Break Up Facebook, Google, and Amazon

Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren is proposing to break up technology companies, including Amazon.com, Google and Facebook, calling them anti-competitive behemoths that are crowding out competition. From a report: "Twenty-five years ago, Facebook, Google, and Amazon didn't exist. Now they are among the most valuable and well-known companies in the world," Warren wrote in a post on the blogging platform Medium. "It's a great story -- but also one that highlights why the government must break up monopolies and promote competitive markets." Warren's call also comes as Democrats have begun to plan for increased oversight of tech companies after winning control of the House in the 2018 midterm elections. On Wednesday, House and Senate Democrats introduced legislation to establish strong net neutrality protections that would look to prevent major service providers from using their power to manipulate how users experience the internet. Update: In a statement, Warren's team said that the proposal would also apply to Apple. "They would have to structurally separate -- choosing between, for example, running the App Store or offering their own apps," a spokesperson said.

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  1. Throng throng throng... by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Warren has to say something to separate herself from the throngs of Democratic Presidential hopefuls, and elevate her campaign into the limelight, but she doesn't really have a clue what her proposal would do.

    Internet neutrality is poorly understood by Washington, and there would be throngs of salivating international competitors for the void created if the US government handicaps their domestic tech industry.

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  2. Telcos by Luthair · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Separate the networks and prohibit them from selling to users, or having exclusive contracts. Then we have competing networks (though sometimes it might be cable vs dsl), and competing providers on top of the networks.

  3. Re:Apple? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Breaking up Google would be a catastrophic disaster for privacy. Google has been good when it comes to protecting the data it has, and has every commercial incentive to continue to do so. Break it up and that data is now available to multiple companies, each of which has no incentive to keep it secret.

    Breaking up Amazon? I don't see why. People buy from Amazon because it's a trusted entity and probably the only online store that's achieved that. The issues with Amazon, such as shitty employment conditions, would get worse, not better, if it was broken up into other companies that have to go into a race to the bottom as far as costs go.

    What are you achieving by breaking either up that wouldn't be better solved with proper regulation? Nothing. You're removing a trusted retailer and replacing it with four untrustworthy ones, and you're duplicating the number of companies that collect your data. Who benefits? Russian hackers maybe?

    Facebook needs to die. The other two can live, but I would like the government step in and say "You can't do that" occasionally. Even if it pisses Rand Paul off. Actually, especially if it pisses Rand Paul off, that's just a bonus.

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  4. Re:Apple? by tomhath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple pays their dues. Al Gore had been paid tens of millions of dollars to be on their board of directors, Nancy Pelosi somehow come to own several million dollars worth of Apple stock, etc., etc.

  5. Re: Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So ignorant and short sighted. They have half the online sales in the US and the only reason they're at 5% of sales in general is that they have basically no physical locations.

    Amazon isn't a monopoly, thankfully there is no legal requirement to be a monopoly in order to run afoul of antitrust regulations.

    Why wait until they've completely taken over the economy when they're already breaking the law?

  6. Great right up until the last sentence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Actually, especially if it pisses Rand Paul off, that's just a bonus."

    That's the congressman you have a problem with? The one that actually tries to follow the constitution?

    Your feelings are no basis for a system of government. The sooner you learn that the better off you will be.

  7. Re:Facebook? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You don't really need to kill the business model. Just need to make it clear and up-front what the user is giving up in exchange for using the service without payment. Actually, I've felt this needs to be a part of every contract and thus EULA (i.e. a change in contract law). At the top of every contract should be a bullet-point list summarizing what each side is giving up in the contract. e.g.

    Facebook agrees to allow you to:
    • Access the service.
    • Store data (text, images, video) to share with other users.

    You agree to allow Facebook to:

    • Show you ads targeted at you based on your demographics, your interests, websites you've visited, things you've purchased, people you associate with, things you say in your posts.
    • Keep a copy of data you store on Facebook forever (even if deleted from the active service)
    • Collect data on who views your content.
    • Collect data on whose content you view.
    • Collect data on the websites you visit outside of Facebook by matching your browser used to access Facebook with the browser used to access these other sites.
    • Infer relationships by cross-referencing the above data with data available from other companies, the government, and otherwise freely available.
    • Sell the information on you obtained via the above to others.

    If someone really wants to agree to all that, it's not your or my place to stop them. My beef is only that it isn't made clear to people exactly what they're giving up when they sign up for a "free" Facebook account. The biggest culprit being lawyers burying the important details in a 50 page EULA of dense, obscure, and difficult to understand language. If the business model dies when you shine a light onto its inner secret workings, then it never deserved to operate in the first place. OTOH if people willingly choose to use the business after its inner workings are completely exposed, then it's not the government's place to stop the people from using it.