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Windows 10 Could Automatically Uninstall Buggy Windows Updates (windowslatest.com)
Microsoft is reportedly working on a new functionality that will automatically remove botched updates from Windows 10 to fix startup issues and other bugs preventing the PC from booting. "The support document was quietly published a couple of hours ago and for some reasons, Microsoft has also blocked the search engines from crawling or indexing the page," reports Windows Latest. "In the document, Microsoft explains that Windows may automatically install updates in order to keep your device secure and smooth." From the report: Due to various reasons, including software and driver compatibility issues, Windows Updates are vulnerable to mistakes and hardware errors. In some cases, Windows Update may fail to install. After installing a recent update, if your PC experience startup failures and automatic recovery attempts are unsuccessful, Windows may try to resolve the failure by uninstalling recently installed updates. In this case, users may receive a notification with the following message: "We removed some recently installed updates to recover your device from a startup failure."
Microsoft says that Windows will also automatically block the problematic updates from installing automatically for the next 30 days. During these 30 days, Microsoft and its partners will investigate the failure and attempt to fix the issues. When the issues are fixed, Windows will again try to install the updates. Users still have the freedom to reinstall the updates. If you believe that the update should not be removed, you can manually reinstall the driver or quality updates which were uninstalled earlier.
Microsoft says that Windows will also automatically block the problematic updates from installing automatically for the next 30 days. During these 30 days, Microsoft and its partners will investigate the failure and attempt to fix the issues. When the issues are fixed, Windows will again try to install the updates. Users still have the freedom to reinstall the updates. If you believe that the update should not be removed, you can manually reinstall the driver or quality updates which were uninstalled earlier.
Will it get so advanced that it eventually just uninstalls Windows 10 altogether?
Ba dum DUM
I'll be here all week, folks..
That'd be grrrrrreat.
Not a one.
The update intended to fix the buggy update will itself have a bug...and we'll be doubly screwed.
Respecting a long-standing tradition, Microsoft will, of course, insist that the problem is the user's fault.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
You force updates on people seemingly non-stop, several of them cause huge problems, including data loss, and now you're building functionality to remove botched updates?
Here is a radical idea for you: Give us back control of when to apply updates.
Not defer them for a few days. Not select a slower update track. Put a damn setting that makes it our own responsibility to go click the update button again.
Came for the comments about it uninstalling itself...Was not disappointed!
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Doing this automatically is exactly how Microsoft could remove it's competitors products. I foresee a time when "buggy patches" changes to "shit we don't like".
We all know how well THAT will work. It will uninstall the "update" and who know's what else!
Microsoft is reportedly working on a new functionality that will automatically remove botched updates from Windows 10 to fix startup issues and other bugs preventing the PC from booting.
Really?! This is easier and better than just not issuing "botched updates"? Holy shit!
Windows 10 (Windows in general, actually) has had a bad record on automatic installs. I don't think I want it automatically uninstalling anything.
I understand what they're trying to do, but as someone else said, the hot setup is not to push out buggy installs in the first place.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
So, MS has had this since Windows 7...but every time it tried pulling out a failed update, it would either fail to remove (leaving the machine in an unbootable state), or pull it out, then reinstall it on the next reboot, then fail, then revert, and so on...also leaving a machine basically unusable.
This isn't what Windows 10 needs.
What Windows 10 needs is simple: security-only updates with a 10MB maximum per update, references to actual KB articles that explicitly state the exploit they mitigate, and a return to 'service packs', released annually. Want to call them 'feature updates'? fine. Support security updates on service packs N, N-1, and N-2, and allow users to permanently opt out of service packs and have manual installers available for those service packs, so users can do the major updates on their own terms.
Even the handful of people who actually care about the new features being added to Win10 are either in the Insider program (where they opt into this-might-break-stuff updates), or else they consider those new features secondary to existing functionality.
It's really that simple.
I'm looking forward to the rise of the Linux desktop once windows 7 goes the way of the dodo, and its purist refuse to use that buggy piece of rubbish called Window 10.
All I need to do is browse websites, Photoshop, play mp3s and video and the odd game on steam... we are close people.
"Windows 10 Could Automatically Uninstall Buggy Windows Updates."
Judging from past experience, there is probably a hidden reason: Microsoft will have even MORE control over customer's computers. That will make "buggy updates" financially important to Microsoft. Microsoft wants permission not only to install software, Microsoft wants full control, apparently.
Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made. "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC." (Aug. 4, 2015)
Obvious way for malware to induce removal of patches that might interfere with it and keep them away for 30 days. So expect to see a rash of this in the future.
Plus MS tossing sh*t at the customers to see what sticks. After all if it's no good Windows will just remove it. It's like the self correcting program again.
while your laptop is closed and presumably offline (fuck that shit). Then they will automagically uninstall bugs the next night to fix the problems with last night's install while your laptop is closed and presumably offline (fuck that shit).
Good luck figuring out why your laptop is unstable every few months.
About 10 years ago, years before MS bought out Skype, I bought an Android tablet that had Skype pre-loaded. I told a relative via a phone call (who works for an un-named U.S. government agency), "Hey, now we can 'Skype' to each other!" My relative immediately said to me, "No, it's not secure." That told me volumes about how insecure the internet was. Slowly but surely the 'free internet' is being locked down, bit by bit. Say or do nothing on any device that you would not want to be repeated back in any open courtroom. Phones are mini computers that have a 'phone app', and are basically spy-devices that we pay for monthly. Slowly but surely 1984 is becoming a reality. Act accordingly.
After you remove spyware^H^H^H^H^H^H^H telemetry I will consider Windows 10.
Windows 10 Could Automatically Uninstall Buggy Windows Updates
Will there also be an new update for Windows 7 that can uninstall this horribly buggy 'Windows 10' app that somehow got installed into my system?
This is what a friend's experience with Windows 10 on his laptop consisted in. The laptop spent hours/days upgrading unprovoked, then Windows 10 immediately uninstalled Windows 10 and reverted to Windows 7. Or maybe my friend REFUSED the EULA.
They need to clean up their quality control on updates. We've seen some pretty stupid ones over the past few years breaking crystal reports, pdf's, and a variety of other small things that should of been tested before deployment. Now after they fail to do quality control on updates they expect us to trust them to remove the bad updates the previously missed? Yeah I'm calling bull shit on this one, our production environments aren't your test bed.
I have seen several times over the years when Windows Update would spend something like an hour trying to install a major update, then fail, and then spend another hour reverting the update. Most of the time that "worked" in that it did not make my system unstable and it could still boot up after the failed update got backed out.
However, the Windows 10 1809 update was a complete disaster the first time I tried to install it. After spending something like an hour or two trying to do the 1809 update, I got an error and Windows tried to back 1809 out. However, while doing the uninstall of the failed 1809, Windows said something went wrong (very vague message) and rebooted. Then it was stuck in a boot loop and could never repair the failed update. I could not even get to the troubleshooting menu. Nothing would work. BTW, this was a few months after 1809 was released, then yanked, then re-released, then yanked, etc, etc.
Fortunately, I only run Windows in a virtual machine and will never let it touch the actual hardware. Since I don't put any personal files on the Windows VM, I was able to just blow away the VM, download the updated Windows 10 installation media, and reinstall. Such a pain, but I feel sorry for the suckers who actually use Windows on a daily basis.
Windows will also automatically block the problematic updates from installing automatically for the next 30 days
Tell me more about this new un-documented feature? It sounds like something I desperately need.
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Computer takes forever to boot and when it does it's very slow in responding. Task Manager Disk is at 100%. Do I just wait for MS to fix this?